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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 09:38 AM
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Heel & Toe ( Brake pedal height adujustment?)

In my previous manual cars I was able to heel and toe without too much difficulty. However, in my Cobalt the brake pedal seems way to high, I just can't seem to get it. Is there an adjustment to lower the brake pedal or raise the gas pedal?
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 09:43 AM
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Beyond removing it and bending the arm yourself, there's no manual adjustments that come stock.
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 10:39 AM
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you heal to toe while braking...you need to brake harder later
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 11:10 AM
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Heel-and-toe in this car has do be done under pretty heavy braking, or else the pedal isn't far enough down to let you reach the throttle. I know the guys on here who go to autocross and track days have been able to pull it off. Maybe VENOM can chime in on this one.
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Force
Heel-and-toe in this car has do be done under pretty heavy braking, or else the pedal isn't far enough down to let you reach the throttle. I know the guys on here who go to autocross and track days have been able to pull it off. Maybe VENOM can chime in on this one.
If I recall correctly in talking to Venom earlier this summer he mentioned he modified the angle of the pedal within a few days of purchasing the car. I could be wrong though so we'll wait and see .
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 11:21 AM
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i dont know if the ions are the same, but i was unable to do it that well in a running shoe, but once i put on a wider flat bottom shoe, it was cake.
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 12:03 PM
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If I recall correctly in talking to Venom earlier this summer he mentioned he modified the angle of the pedal within a few days of purchasing the car. I could be wrong though so we'll wait and see .
Interesting. It would be good to know how he pulls it off... As far as I'm concerned he's the guru when it comes to making a TC fly around a race track
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 12:44 PM
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you do need do be breaking a little harder than you think, but even light breaking isnt that bad. Just move your foot over on the brake a little more, and **** it more at a 30* angle. Works fine for me in running shoes or wide flat bottoms, takes some getting used to but its really not that hard.

I guess the biggest piece of advice i could give is you have to get less foot on the break and a bit more angle to allow yourself to really reach.
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 01:44 PM
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Interesting. It would be good to know how he pulls it off... As far as I'm concerned he's the guru when it comes to making a TC fly around a race track
After going for a couple rides with him around an autocross at Fanshawe a few weeks ago, he pulls it off very well indeed . I was too busy trying NOT to launch across the car in the turns to watch his feet but his downshifts are ridiculously accurate!
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 01:46 PM
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iv been heel toeing, but I dont like brakeing the way the car wants for it to be done perfectly! so I resort back to good ol revv matching lol
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by WaRRioR-StaTuS
iv been heel toeing, but I dont like brakeing the way the car wants for it to be done perfectly! so I resort back to good ol revv matching lol
That's often how I find myself... Though I've only had the car less than two months now and have yet to get to any track events so I'll just have to practice for now.
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 01:56 PM
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Heel/toe (actually toe/heel in practice, toe on brake) is not hard...I do it routinely during my commute even without heavy braking...installing a pedal set from SRP make this possible because there's an extension to the left of the gas pedal...

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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 02:03 PM
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I have wide feet and can nail it every time.
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 02:19 PM
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I've been doing it since i had my SS/SC so over 3 years now . With the way the pedals are I have to use the side of my right foot to blip the throttle while the rest of my foot is at an upward angle on the brake ...Kinda like this \ It's pretty easy once you get in the habit of doing it.
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 02:22 PM
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My friend and I are taking a little driving adventure to some insane roads which should be fairly deserted... I'll practice this technique as much as I can and see how far I get.
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 02:38 PM
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Yeah I can't do it either. Then again I have tiny feet, but the pedal position in the Cobalt does make it impossible for me. That pedal kit is nice, though I don't know if that would solve my problem, it's not the space horizontally it's the vertical difference between the two that causes the problem.
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Force
My friend and I are taking a little driving adventure to some insane roads which should be fairly deserted... I'll practice this technique as much as I can and see how far I get.
I would start out on straight level roads with little traffic and heel/toe while braking/down shifting from 5th down...you want to get this manuver "hard wired" into you before doing anything challenging on the road...
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 02:54 PM
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I don't have much of an issue with the heel-and-toe under normal driving, but I definitely agree the pedal alignment could be better. I think it would probably be easier to raise the throttle as opposed to lowering the brake. Reason being, the accelerator isn't connected by any cables and therefore doesn't affect anything by it's position. You could, in theory, bolt the throttle pedal to the passenger side dashboard and as long as the wiring connector was secure, it would function perfectly fine. So, if you can maybe make those holes a little oblong and adjust the pedal at more of an upward angle, it should help you just fine.
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 03:13 PM
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I have no problem with it during normal/spirited driving, took a while to get used to it though.
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 03:16 PM
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I find it easy in the cobalt with some practice. I have a little bit of my right foot on the far right side of the brake pedal, and just roll my foot to the right to blip the throttle. piece of cake. with the foot roll and some practice, doesn't matter how hard your braking.
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by D4u2s0t
I find it easy in the cobalt with some practice. I have a little bit of my right foot on the far right side of the brake pedal, and just roll my foot to the right to blip the throttle. piece of cake. with the foot roll and some practice, doesn't matter how hard your braking.
same way I do it
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by msfitoy
I would start out on straight level roads with little traffic and heel/toe while braking/down shifting from 5th down...you want to get this manuver "hard wired" into you before doing anything challenging on the road...
For sure. I meant more that I'll have a long drive down to these roads, so I'll have time to practice.
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by D4u2s0t
I find it easy in the cobalt with some practice. I have a little bit of my right foot on the far right side of the brake pedal, and just roll my foot to the right to blip the throttle. piece of cake. with the foot roll and some practice, doesn't matter how hard your braking.
If you have the right size foot. To get to the throttle, I have to have the brakes on the very edge of ABS engagement to even get close. If I roll over under light braking, my foot either falls off the brake completely or goes between the gap between the gas and brake.

One of these days I'm going to try the pedal replacement.
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 05:03 PM
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If you have the right size foot. To get to the throttle, I have to have the brakes on the very edge of ABS engagement to even get close. If I roll over under light braking, my foot either falls off the brake completely or goes between the gap between the gas and brake.

One of these days I'm going to try the pedal replacement.
Finding a wider shoe might help, I don't have a problem with it.
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 06:21 PM
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If you have the right size foot. To get to the throttle, I have to have the brakes on the very edge of ABS engagement to even get close. If I roll over under light braking, my foot either falls off the brake completely or goes between the gap between the gas and brake.

One of these days I'm going to try the pedal replacement.
yea but you're tiny lol.

When I first started trying in the cobalt I had a really hard time. Just started practicing all the time, and it became very easy.
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