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Old May 13, 2006 | 08:18 PM
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Lightbulb SS/SC vs Altima SER 3.5 guess the winner...

If you are just hearing the stats on the SER then you would imagine that it having the same motor as the Z my little '06 SS/SC would'nt have much on that bad machine. So here we go... I'm driving down highway 17 N. torwards Jacksonville ( for those of you familiar with Wilmington/Jax., NC.) When litteraly out of nowhere this dude in a '06 black SER goes flying by at somewhere between 100-115 mph, and stays on it (no brake lights, and still gaining lots of ground) so I have not seen any cops for a while and start to feel a little frisky and drop to 3rd at around 60mph, then 4th at 85mph, then 5th at 110 and am still not gaining on this guy. I climb up to and hold 125 mph and now I start to realize that I'm reeling this cat back to me.
I start to think that "I know that car" and "what the hell am I going to do if he actualy lets me catch up to him?" But also, "D a m n I love this car, 125 still going and it feels like butter, I love this car"... Then I snap back to realize that he has in fact touched his brake a few times and is now within shouting distance with no time for me to slow down and I scoot by at a buck fifteen like "hows that feel ass..." I let off the gas to let him get closer.
I get in his lane and he immediatly gets over to come up on my driver side. We do not look at each other, and are back at normal speeds neck and neck. We get into town and are by a place called cheeseburgers at a light which is red and are both at the front of our lanes... I hear him start to rev his engine anticipating the green coming and I do the same up to 1200-1300 rpm... the light hits green and we both punch it, we both have tires screeeetatata... I hit second and have less than a quarterpanel on him, he hits second and lurches , my super kicks in and 55 is approaching... i drop 3rd and just keep pulling and pulling and pulling, 4th and I tell you the truth I had him by at least a car length. I let off at 100 in town and when I got to the next intersection I looked for him and he did not show... I LOVE THIS CAR... the SER is a 6 speed 260 hp sports sedan and I got the best of him that day. I will show that guy respect when I see him again, cause I love his car too... man that was fun... I love MY car
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Old May 13, 2006 | 08:27 PM
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good kill
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Old May 13, 2006 | 08:35 PM
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Good Kill I walk my bro-in-law every chance I get, his is an '03, just to bring him back to reality espec. after his talks about walkin civic's and such...not even the same league Factory rating on the '03-'04 is 175 HP (over rated) unless modded, and it would take quite a bit more than intake and exhaust to put it in an SS/SC class EDIT my bad just realized you put Altima 3.5 SER not Sentra
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Old May 18, 2006 | 11:28 PM
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whats the matter, noone else likes this story?
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Old May 19, 2006 | 12:02 AM
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Nice kill.

Good story too
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Old May 20, 2006 | 04:36 PM
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What a freaking dumbazz. Nice kill. Stupid idiot should've known light FI car will plow his heavy car into the ground.

Feels good that in my BASE Cobalt I am in the same time branch as the Sentra Spec Vs. I'd be careful though...the Specs are pretty mod friendly and I've seen a couple hit high 14s stock.

The Cobalt SS n/a will run with the Spec Vs stock, now anyone with a brain will know not to run a SS S/C in a Spec V.

Yes my roots are Nismo. But I am freaking in love with my domestic coupe. The Altima SE-R is a decently powered vehicle yet is just freaking HEAVY. Just be sure you don't challenge a Sentra with true duals. There are three known V6 swap Sentra's out there, and a good handfull pushing 300-350whp. A Sentra with a 4 banger sounding like a V8 at idle(SQR23DET engine).
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Old May 21, 2006 | 01:06 AM
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What a freaking dumbazz. Nice kill. Stupid idiot should've known light FI car will plow his heavy car into the ground.

Feels good that in my BASE Cobalt I am in the same time branch as the Sentra Spec Vs. I'd be careful though...the Specs are pretty mod friendly and I've seen a couple hit high 14s stock.

The Cobalt SS n/a will run with the Spec Vs stock, now anyone with a brain will know not to run a SS S/C in a Spec V.

Yes my roots are Nismo. But I am freaking in love with my domestic coupe. The Altima SE-R is a decently powered vehicle yet is just freaking HEAVY. Just be sure you don't challenge a Sentra with true duals. There are three known V6 swap Sentra's out there, and a good handfull pushing 300-350whp. A Sentra with a 4 banger sounding like a V8 at idle(SQR23DET engine).
Quite a few Altima SE-Rs and 3.5s have ran high 13s stock. So why is the guy a *******????
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Old May 21, 2006 | 01:10 AM
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Quite a few Altima SE-Rs and 3.5s have ran high 13s stock. So why is the guy a *******????
My friend has a SE-R with about 10,000 miles and cant touch under 14.5... Best he ran was 14.6. His friend with a 350 Z was consistantly putting down mid 14s out of like 4 runs. He "SAID" he had hit 14.1 before, but neither of these cars where anywhere near 13 seconds.

We raced quite a few times on our way back from teh track and I pulled hard on both. I definately believe a stock Cobalt SS can run with them, and probably be a lil faster. My stage 2 though puts me quite a few car lengths ahead
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Old May 21, 2006 | 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Xenozx
My friend has a SE-R with about 10,000 miles and cant touch under 14.5... Best he ran was 14.6. His friend with a 350 Z was consistantly putting down mid 14s out of like 4 runs. He "SAID" he had hit 14.1 before, but neither of these cars where anywhere near 13 seconds.

We raced quite a few times on our way back from teh track and I pulled hard on both. I definately believe a stock Cobalt SS can run with them, and probably be a lil faster. My stage 2 though puts me quite a few car lengths ahead
Point of this being..........
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Old May 21, 2006 | 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by 280Z1977
Point of this being..........
Someone said they ran high 13's stock. I said no they dont.

EDIT: actually you said they ran Hight 13's I say they dont....
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Old May 21, 2006 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 280Z1977
Quite a few Altima SE-Rs and 3.5s have ran high 13s stock. So why is the guy a *******????
Time slips?

Only 3.5L I've seen run 13s STOCK is one that is swapped into a Sentra. A Sentra with a VQ35 can hit 12s. That is a lighter car with slicks. So the lowest Altima I see running is possibly low 14s.
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Old May 21, 2006 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackout06LS
Time slips?

Only 3.5L I've seen run 13s STOCK is one that is swapped into a Sentra. A Sentra with a VQ35 can hit 12s. That is a lighter car with slicks. So the lowest Altima I see running is possibly low 14s.
exactly....
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Old May 21, 2006 | 03:22 PM
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Time slips?

Only 3.5L I've seen run 13s STOCK is one that is swapped into a Sentra. A Sentra with a VQ35 can hit 12s. That is a lighter car with slicks. So the lowest Altima I see running is possibly low 14s.
Here is a 14.1 slip with a 2.2 60' from just a 3.5 ... http://www.dragtimes.com/Nissan-Alti...slip-3240.html


Here is a link to an auto 3.5 cutting a 14.2 with 2.0 60' http://www.superhonda.com/forum/show...2&postcount=62

It is a pain to look for drag times for the Altimas especially the SE-R.

If you don't see that high 13s are possible with those 2 times I will keep looking, because I know I have seen slips for them running 13.9s bone stock.
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Old May 21, 2006 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 280Z1977
Here is a 14.1 slip with a 2.2 60' from just a 3.5 ... http://www.dragtimes.com/Nissan-Alti...slip-3240.html


Here is a link to an auto 3.5 cutting a 14.2 with 2.0 60' http://www.superhonda.com/forum/show...2&postcount=62

It is a pain to look for drag times for the Altimas especially the SE-R.

If you don't see that high 13s are possible with those 2 times I will keep looking, because I know I have seen slips for them running 13.9s bone stock.
You dont know they where stock. 14.2 seems about where they should be. They are too heavy to be hitting 13's. The 350 should put down better #'s then a 3.5 altima SE or SER.
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Old May 21, 2006 | 03:36 PM
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You dont know they where stock. 14.2 seems about where they should be. They are too heavy to be hitting 13's. The 350 should put down better #'s then a 3.5 altima SE or SER.
So you are saying 350s don't run high 13s?

Just to enlighten you the old 350s and Altimas weigh around the same and have about the same power one is RWD other FWD. If they have the same 60' times which do you think will be faster??? The FWD.
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Old May 21, 2006 | 04:23 PM
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So you are saying 350s don't run high 13s?

Just to enlighten you the old 350s and Altimas weigh around the same and have about the same power one is RWD other FWD. If they have the same 60' times which do you think will be faster??? The FWD.
RWD is capable of better 60' then a FWD car period. Unless you mod the hell out of the SE-R the RWD will be the victor. and I dont believe the ALtima to be the same wieght as its a big 4 seeter car and the 350 is a 2 seater roadster....

also above my boy with a 350 and exaust couldnt touch 13's after like 4-5 tries. IM not saying its impossible, but its not normal, maybe on a factory freak or something or at like -200 below sea level or something. Its like the fabled 13 second SRT-4's. Sure is possible and may have even happend once or twice, but its not normal...
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Old May 21, 2006 | 04:34 PM
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RWD is capable of better 60' then a FWD car period. Unless you mod the hell out of the SE-R the RWD will be the victor. and I dont believe the ALtima to be the same wieght as its a big 4 seeter car and the 350 is a 2 seater roadster....

also above my boy with a 350 and exaust couldnt touch 13's after like 4-5 tries. IM not saying its impossible, but its not normal, maybe on a factory freak or something or at like -200 below sea level or something. Its like the fabled 13 second SRT-4's. Sure is possible and may have even happend once or twice, but its not normal...
A lot of SRT-4s broke 13s, you probably think the new SRT-4 will only run low 14s too.

I know RWD is capable of better 60' times, when did I say anything to contradict that? I said, "Just to enlighten you the old 350s and Altimas weigh around the same and have about the same power one is RWD other FWD. If they have the same 60' times which do you think will be faster??? The FWD."

Also just so you know BOTH the 3.5 Altimas and 350z weigh right around 3200lbs
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Old May 21, 2006 | 04:58 PM
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A lot of SRT-4s broke 13s, you probably think the new SRT-4 will only run low 14s too.

I know RWD is capable of better 60' times, when did I say anything to contradict that? I said, "Just to enlighten you the old 350s and Altimas weigh around the same and have about the same power one is RWD other FWD. If they have the same 60' times which do you think will be faster??? The FWD."

Also just so you know BOTH the 3.5 Altimas and 350z weigh right around 3200lbs
actually they both weigh closer to 3400 lbs, and with a drive that tips in over 3550...

An SRT-4 and Cobalt weigh under 3000. Not all SRT-4's are capable of under 13 stock. Sorry man. I have many friends with Highly modded SRT-4's and some with stockers. I have been to the track over the last 2 months about 6 times and I make it a habbit to talk to people. Most stock SRT-4's put down 14.3-14.5 stock. Even with slight mods its more like 14.1-14.3. Hell my friend with stage 2 can barely break 13's. There are factory freaks so is it possible for a 350 or altima to touch 13's? SURE. Most? NO. Also traction has a lot to do with it. Sorry but the Altima (DOES NOT have the same 60 foots as a 350, so NO I dont think it is a 13 second car.

In the altima's case I say its a 14 second car. In the cobalts 14 second car. SRT 4 14 second car. There are exceptions to the rules but this is how it goes. My cobalt is a 13 second car, but that doesnt mean all cobalts are. Same goes with any car.
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Old May 21, 2006 | 05:02 PM
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actually they both weigh closer to 3400 lbs, and with a drive that tips in over 3550...

An SRT-4 and Cobalt weigh under 3000. Not all SRT-4's are capable of under 13 stock. Sorry man. I have many friends with Highly modded SRT-4's and some with stockers. I have been to the track over the last 2 months about 6 times and I make it a habbit to talk to people. Most stock SRT-4's put down 14.3-14.5 stock. Even with slight mods its more like 14.1-14.3. Hell my friend with stage 2 can barely break 13's. There are factory freaks so is it possible for a 350 or altima to touch 13's? SURE. Most? NO. Also traction has a lot to do with it. Sorry but the Altima (DOES NOT have the same 60 foots as a 350, so NO I dont think it is a 13 second car.

In the altima's case I say its a 14 second car. In the cobalts 14 second car. SRT 4 14 second car. There are exceptions to the rules but this is how it goes.
There are not many 350z that cut below 2.0 60' and I showed you an Altima that did. I am not saying nor have I ever said every Altima runs high 13s or every SRT-4 runs high 13s. My only point is that they are CAPABLE, which you agree with.
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Old May 21, 2006 | 05:25 PM
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There are not many 350z that cut below 2.0 60' and I showed you an Altima that did. I am not saying nor have I ever said every Altima runs high 13s or every SRT-4 runs high 13s. My only point is that they are CAPABLE, which you agree with.
you have to clarify "Possible" cause no not every one is possible. A factory freak maybe which would be about 1% of them or a super lucky track run that only 1% of drivers can get. The rest are low to mid 14 second cars period. You cant say the Altima SE-R is a 13 second car because its not.
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you have to clarify "Possible" cause no not every one is possible. A factory freak maybe which would be about 1% of them or a super lucky track run that only 1% of drivers can get. The rest are low to mid 14 second cars period. You cant say the Altima SE-R is a 13 second car because its not.
I am saying with enough practice, I could get the SE-R into the 13s bone stock. Thats the kicker not many people actually drag race the Altima and most of the people that do it is their first car and/or they aren't very good. I know what you are saying though. I agree.
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Old May 21, 2006 | 08:12 PM
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i almost bought an altima SE-R but now i have a modded cobalt that can hand altima se-r their asses and i still paid less. But i do say they are nice cars, if they came with a factory LSD i would be driving one right now.
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Old May 21, 2006 | 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 280Z1977
Here is a 14.1 slip with a 2.2 60' from just a 3.5 ... http://www.dragtimes.com/Nissan-Alti...slip-3240.html


Here is a link to an auto 3.5 cutting a 14.2 with 2.0 60' http://www.superhonda.com/forum/show...2&postcount=62

It is a pain to look for drag times for the Altimas especially the SE-R.

If you don't see that high 13s are possible with those 2 times I will keep looking, because I know I have seen slips for them running 13.9s bone stock.
I am saying...just because someone ELSE ran that doesn't mean that the person looking at it can run it.

Those people could have years of experience or barely any at all. What I am saying don't look at the lowest ET and think you can run that. Altima's are general 14 second cars.

For example: Everyone knows that Nissan Sentra SE-R Spec V's are 15 second cars right? I've seen people run high 15s in them, and I have seen a good handful break into the 14 bracket STOCK. I am just saying on the average 14s is a realistic number for Altima's. Just like even though people have ran 14s in Spec's the REALISTIC time is low 15s.

Like my friend told me a guy hit 15.6 stock in a Cobalt. Well I may not be able to run that. I may be low 16s...all depends on track condition, etc. Like Nissan claimed at 16.5 for my Sentra. Best I ran was 16.88 on crappy bridgestone tires. A fellow owner little closer to sea level than me ran a 16.6.
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Good one buddy!
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Old May 23, 2006 | 11:08 AM
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For a second i thought it was your friend that had the Sentra Se-R
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