Who makes the supercharger?
Does anyone know exactly what company makes the supercharger? I just had a friend ask the other day and thought I would find out for the both of us... thanks....
Originally Posted by hokman
does the 2.0 SC sound much better than the 2.2? 2.2 hurts your ears when you rev...
I've never heard anyone say reving a 4-banger "hurts their ears"
Originally Posted by osmose
turn your hearing aid down Grandpa!
I've never heard anyone say reving a 4-banger "hurts their ears"
I've never heard anyone say reving a 4-banger "hurts their ears"
Try revving a celica vvtl-i and then rev cobalt. See who's ear is hurting..
Originally Posted by osmose
turn your hearing aid down Grandpa!
I've never heard anyone say reving a 4-banger "hurts their ears"
I've never heard anyone say reving a 4-banger "hurts their ears"
Originally Posted by hokman
Has anyone ever heard of such a stupid comment. He eithers never driven an american or korean I4, or works at a construction site so he's used to the racket.
Personally I think American Inline-4's sound much better than Japanese 4-bangers. Cars like the Celica that you mentioned have high-strung, small-displacement engines - they tend to be really buzzy and high pitched, and many would describe their sound as "ricey".
Engines like the 2.2 Ecotec actually sound good. They have larger displacement and don't need to rev so damn high, and therefore make a much deeper, throatier growl when revved. I don't see how they are "noisy" by any means; if anything the high-strung 4-bangers that you seem to think sound good are in fact noisy.
Case in point: Take 3 American cars with 5-speeds - such as a Cobalt LS 2.2, a Ford Focus 2.3, and a Dodge Neon SXT - and install high-performance short-ram intakes on them. Now take 3 Japanese cars - such as an Acura RSX, Toyota Celica, and Honda Civic Si - and do the same, installing a short ram intake. I can guarentee that the American cars will produce a nice deep growl under throttle, while the Jap cars will sound high-pitched and scream under throttle input. Its a matter of design, displacement, and power curve - you can't argue with the facts.
Originally Posted by hokman
If you never rev a nice engine before or work at construction site, no wonder.
Try revving a celica vvtl-i and then rev cobalt. See who's ear is hurting..
Try revving a celica vvtl-i and then rev cobalt. See who's ear is hurting..
I just got a ride in a Lotus Elise today that has that Celica engine and it does make some noise.
I kinda wish someone made a V4 engine. I have one on my motorcycle (750CC V4) with gear driven cams. That engine sounds SWEET with a free flowing pipe on the back. When you rev it up high (like 10k) the sound of the gears driving the cars is music to my ears.
On another note we don't need to call each other retarded. I think we can all make our points and let people decide for themselves who is "retarded"
the only 'noisey' 4 bangers i hear are ones with those stupid exhaust tips.
Now. you want noisey. live next to the guy my dad lives next to. Every morning at about 4:30 am when he leaves for work he starts his mustang. THAT is loud, it is like a 92, with some huge motor/exhuast combo, fast as hell, but loud loud loud.
i have to agree somewhat that the 2.2 makes some noise when you floor it, but then again, so does anycar, at least this one doesn't sound like it is about to blowup like my saturn used to.
Now. you want noisey. live next to the guy my dad lives next to. Every morning at about 4:30 am when he leaves for work he starts his mustang. THAT is loud, it is like a 92, with some huge motor/exhuast combo, fast as hell, but loud loud loud.
i have to agree somewhat that the 2.2 makes some noise when you floor it, but then again, so does anycar, at least this one doesn't sound like it is about to blowup like my saturn used to.
As numerous people have said, Eaton makes the SC for the Cobalt SS, but...
It is technically the MP62...an improved version of the M62 used in the old Bonneville.
Also, the GTP/GS uses the M90...the new Grand Prix has the improved MP90. Funny that the new Monte SS and Impala SS still has the old M90.
It is technically the MP62...an improved version of the M62 used in the old Bonneville.
Also, the GTP/GS uses the M90...the new Grand Prix has the improved MP90. Funny that the new Monte SS and Impala SS still has the old M90.
So you've seen good american or korean 4 cylinder? Um, I don't think neon or elantra is any good. In fact, those are one of the world's worst engines. Focus 2.3 is taken from mazda. Focus itself is european design, america took no part in designing it.
I hate those ******* idiots who drive a 70hp 1.3 civic or 120hp 1.8 integra and install a mic at the exhaust pipe. Running around sounding like a butcher machine, that doesn't sound like anything near powerful.
In my school there used to be a swarthy-looking woman who comes to pickup her sister or something in a rust bucket integra with a crap engine and a mic. ANd she thought she's so standoff-ish and proud of the piece of ****. Every time that POS moves and makes such a shitty noise me and my friends laugh to the ground. IT's the funniest clown ever. I think it's even automatic!
What a stupid ****ing ****!
In my school there used to be a swarthy-looking woman who comes to pickup her sister or something in a rust bucket integra with a crap engine and a mic. ANd she thought she's so standoff-ish and proud of the piece of ****. Every time that POS moves and makes such a shitty noise me and my friends laugh to the ground. IT's the funniest clown ever. I think it's even automatic!
What a stupid ****ing ****!
Originally Posted by hokman
So you've seen good american or korean 4 cylinder? Um, I don't think neon or elantra is any good. In fact, those are one of the world's worst engines. Focus 2.3 is taken from mazda. Focus itself is european design, america took no part in designing it.
Originally Posted by viperinadiaper
id take a neon motor over any econobox jap 4cyl anyday, there is a wonderful thing called torque that most jap 4cyls seem to lack, and there is no jap 4cyl that sounds better than a srt-4 or even the s/c 2.0 ecotec. hmmmm another good motor thats american, dodges 2.2/2.5l turbos, the 2.4 n/a.......
and the srt-4 is actually a crap engine with a mitsubishi turbo. I bet installing that turbo into any other engine would be better.
Of course, torque won't be lacking in a big neon engine but the power delivery, refinement and power is far below average. The engine would probably of lumps and dips in power and torque curve. Everyone knows american makes the worst 4 cylinders in the world.
Originally Posted by hokman
I know the lancer evo FQ400 with 400bhp lacks torque, yeah right...
and the srt-4 is actually a crap engine with a mitsubishi turbo. I bet installing that turbo into any other engine would be better.
and the srt-4 is actually a crap engine with a mitsubishi turbo. I bet installing that turbo into any other engine would be better.
Originally Posted by hokman
If you call srt-4 stock base of neon range, than I can also call the evolution VIII FQ400 stock base of neon range. Even in reality it's the opposite.
Even though America makes the worst inline 4, I must congradulate their expertise in Push-Rod Technology. Taking a push-rod engine to compete with today's multivalve rivals is real courage. I can't believe corvette pushrod can make 400bhp and acheive respectable economy.
I don't know why you would call srt-4 makes good sound, but fine, whatever, I agree. I don't want anymore attention.
Your reference was american motors has torque japanese doesn't.
That's the reason I mentioned the evo's 4g63. In fact, the majority of jap engines that lack torque is the honda vtec. Most mitsubishi and Nissan I4 has huge torque even in early days. Take the 1982 mitsu starion turbo for example, that's like a tank engine.
I don't know why you would call srt-4 makes good sound, but fine, whatever, I agree. I don't want anymore attention.
Your reference was american motors has torque japanese doesn't.
That's the reason I mentioned the evo's 4g63. In fact, the majority of jap engines that lack torque is the honda vtec. Most mitsubishi and Nissan I4 has huge torque even in early days. Take the 1982 mitsu starion turbo for example, that's like a tank engine.
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