I have a 98 Chevy Camaro with a V6 and 70,000miles. I love it to death and so does everybody else.
I never really was going to mod it up since I did buy it used and I figured I could just save up for an '09 Camaro brand new.
It seems everything is perfect about it though, except recently I've been needing to replace parts and now one of my stock speakers is blown.

Here is my question:
Should I keep my Camaro that everyone seems to love?
Or should I trade it in for a brand new Cobalt SS/SC?

With a SS/SC I could mod it up and not worry about what might have happened to it from a previous owner, I would have better gas milage, and not have to worry about buying a winter car.

But then again I would be sacrificing it's unique look, lower height, T-Tops, 25ftlbs of torque, RWD. I probably wouldn't be able to show off a Cobalt like I can a Camaro, everyone knows and loves it, it's like a legend, and no one seems to know what a Cobalt is...

What should I do?

 

Up to you bro. I would go with the SS/SC. My favorite part about the car is that no one knows what it is. Don't worry about the torque difference this car has plenty!!!

 

No offense, but camaro's are a dime-a-dozen; especially the V6. And yes i know they are not made anymore (rolls eyes). The 2.0 Cobalt will embarrass your camaro in every aspect possible. To answer your question, it sounds like you really love your car, so just keep it until the next Camaro comes out.

 

Plus if you live in NY you have got to be hateing that RWD in the snow

 

How bad do you want, and how long are you willing to wait to get a new Camaro? And will you be able to afford one?

 

Do what you want and what makes you happy. To me it sounds like you already made up your mind even with the 25ftlbs of torque. My questions is if you get the cobalt are you still planning on getting the Camaro when the re-release it. In my position if I could afford it I would get the Cobalt now so that I have something to play with and when the new Camaro comes out get that.

 

Yeah, well this Camaro is my first car and I paid for it myself. So maybe I just like it because it's my first and all that and I've never had anything else.

I've only had it since December, and it really wasn't too bad. My only fear is the salt, other than that I'd do it again or buy a cheap beater.

It's kind of funny, my mom drove in the winter with her first car, which was also a Camaro, and now she has a Cavalier. Hmm?

 

Well I'm not exactly sure. I want my next car to be new if it's not just a beater.

I don't mind waiting for the '09 Camaros except I have no idea how much they will cost.

Often I have to drive my grandma places, and she wants me to get something better because it's hard for her to get into because it's so low. I'm pretty sure Cobalts are heigher up like the Cavalier, which is fine for her. Plus my C-ro is starting to need replacement parts and what not.

If I sold my Camaro, and with other money I have, I could afford one, but I would need to make payments.

 

dude, get the cobalt... save gas, go fast, and to end my rhyme, dont look white trash

 

Well it's a hard choice, I've never driven a Cobalt and I don't know what it would be like. I guess I'm afraid I won't like it as much as I like the Camaro. If I did get the Cobalt, I would probably not get the new Camaro, simply beacuse I'll most likely still be making payements on the Cobalt.

But from researching cars, I would say if I had to get rid of my Camaro, since I probabaly can't afford an STi, I would def. go with a Cobalt. I've been interested in them since they came out.

 

YOu don't look white trash driving a camaro....

 

tough call man, Im assuming the camaro is paid off right? If so, it makes sense financially to keep the Camaro. yes you will have to perform maintenance on a 70k car, but as long as you stay on top of it, its not gonna cost you as much as monthly car payments. But maybe logically, a new car would work better for you for the time being. I dont know, tough one.

And if I were a bettin man, Id say $35-40k for a new Camaro.

 

I love the Camaro, but a V6 does not make a good one IMO! A V8 Camaro, now that is a different story. I would get the SS/SC, but that is just me.

Can't see myself ever owning a V6 Camaro.

 

I love my cobalt ss

 

Yeah, the Camaro is paid off. Damn, I wish there was a way I could keep it and get a Cobalt too.

If the new Camaro costs that much then I'm not gunna buy one. That's too much, I'd rather get an STi for that price. Or maybe a slick Cobalt with some nice mods?

Right now I'm 50/50 with the Camaro v Cobalt thing. I like them both. I jus don't know if I'll like the Cobalt as much.

 

I agree, if you had a V8 (Z28 or SS) in the camaro, I'd keep it. But with a V6, no way....
and I'm sure a new V8 camaro will be much more expensive than a Cobalt SS/SC.

If everyone likes yoor Camaro then you should have no trouble selling it....

 

I currently own a 93 Camaro base. It's not a fast car, but it's fun, and I love it to death. If and when I buy a Cobalt, it will be in ADDITION to the Camaro, not instead of. That would be my recommendation - best of both worlds. If you can't afford this right now, start saving your money until it's a possibility. Don't worry about maintenance on your car too much. 70k miles on one of them is nothing. Mine had 114k before it blew its head gasket, which was its first and only major repair thus far.

 

Youve also got to take into consideration waht you want out of your car. If you want speed and right now. Go with the balt. You want the Nestalgia (sp?) of a Camaro. Wait until it comes out (But be warned, It may be out in 2009 but the really cool ones with all the toys and big motors and rare ones wont be out till much later (look at the mustang for an example).

Either would be a good choice. I personally choose to have the balt for now (Through school) and eventually when I can get a new camaro thats rare and fast as hell Ill trade. (Nothing less than the biggest and badest though!)

 

Speed? Honestly I don't think a Cobalt stands a chanve against a Camaro. No offence, I like the new Cobalts, I wouldn't be on this site if I wasn't.

But come on. There's no way that the SS/SC could beat even the V6 Camaro. Stock that is.
I know you can do more to the SS/SC than the Camaro V6, but that's simply because they don't make many V6 Camaro upgrades since they figure if you want power, you'll just buy a Z28.
But if you COULD do a lot of work without it costing a whole to a V6 Camaro, the Cobalt wouldn't stand a chance.

Camaros with a V6 have 200HP, and 225ftlbs BY ITSELF
Cobalt SS/SC have 205HP, and 200ftlbs WITH A SUPERCHARGED

I don't think that 5 extra hp the Cobalt has makes a difference on the Camaro and the extra 25ftlbs would make the Camaro beat the Cobalt. The problem is the torque helps the Camaro to be fast of the line, that's why I can beat so many people with it. But the Supercharger also helps the Cobalt to be fast off the line. I acctually looked at stats between the Cobalt vs. an SRT4 race and in the beginnin the Cobalt was winning, until it had been off the line for a while and the SRT4's turbos kicked in.

And even if I'm wrong about something, and the SS/SC would win off the line, the Camaro would def catch up. There is no way that the SS/SC can top out at a faster speed than the Camaro. I think if anything it's an issue of gearing. And I don't know much about gearing so I don't know.

But then again.... If you modd out the SS/SC, it's a whole different story. But is the money and decreased MPG worth it? Ehh, not for me. I would jus do airflow upgrades.

As far as the big toys and big motors thing, if you say that then why would you get a SS/SC anyways? I heard that GM might be contracting someone for 09 to make the 09s have like 300hp or something like that.

 

I may be new here, and new to "racing" in general but one thing I know for sure is that "There's no way that the SS/SC could beat even the V6 Camaro. Stock that is." is a completely unsubstantiated statement that doesn't take into consideration a variety of factors, including but not limited to the alleged traction issues that the Cobalts are notorious for off the line, and the RWD versus FWD, or the fact that your stock V6 Camaro is going to weigh a lot more than the stock Cobalt which provides the same power.

Weight in racing = God.

Not that I'm pretending to know which car would win or anything, but I think you're dramatically underestimating the Cobalt, and I've never even driven one.

-Aleckor

 

Huh?
Yes, the Camaro weights 400lbs more.
But RWD def. gets off the line way faster than FWD
My Camaro has very wide tires, which gives it good traction, the Cobalt has issues with traction.
The Cobalt does provide the same power. It has 5 more hp, which is pretty much nothing and the Camaro has 25 mroe torque, wide tires, and RWD. I think that makes up for the 400 more lbs. Maybe I'm wrong. But you have to keep in mind, the Cobalt has a SC. SC don't add to top speed I don't think, jus speed off the line, at least that's what I was told.

 

go check out RKsport, they have a supercharger for your car and then decide
btw, i had a v6 firebird with the same system and the car was a sleeper. I got my cobalt ss/sc because i was tired of winters in the bird. I am pretty sure that from a dig the stock v6 camaro will get raped by a cobalt ss/sc. my bird only put down something like 150 or 160 to the wheels stock and the cobalts is doing 200+ at the wheels and is lighter. the interior would definately be a step up from the camaro if you go with the cobalt....i highly recommend you test drive a cobalt in order to make a decision.

 

"But RWD def. gets off the line way faster than FWD"

I wasn't proclaiming otherwise. My first two comments were disadvantageous for the Cobalt, as I was trying to provide you with an unbiased opinion. Then I made the last comment about Weight, which I consider to be one of the most important factors - especially when considering two vehicles that weigh very differently.

If two cars produce roughly the same amount of power, the car that has to push the least amount of weight will accelerate dramatically faster and thus will leave the opposing car behind - because they provide the same power the opposing car won't be able to catch back up. Don't forget that at what RPM the vehicle produces said power is a serious factor to consider too, among other things.

I gave the disadvantageous factors to show you that there are other things to consider other than just Weight alone (which I consider to be the number one reason I believe the stock Cobalt would win which is also coincedentally why I love the Cobalt - it's a light weight monster) And since neither you nor I could actually crunch any kind of data together to counter balance this, we end up at a point where we each have our own opinions on the matter. So to a certain degree I agree with you, that there are valid reasons why the stock V6 Camaro would win - but I submit to you that there are just as good reasons to believe that the Cobalt would take the gold.

The purpose of my post was merely to point out to you that your previous statement was unsubstantiated because there are too many factors that go into a race. Especially when you consider two cars that have roughly the same power.

Cobalt for the win,
-Aleckor

 

1. to start off from original posting... its a v6 camero.. dont drown your heart .. get rid of the piece.. its is not a Z or SS then junk it.. not like you can't find another.

2. You knowledge of cars is obvious and people that tell you things are idiots.. a SS/SC will completely RAPE a v6 camaro stock vs stock... ss/sc are underracted + weight of 400 pounds is not negated by 25 torque.. sorry not happening.. i have beat GT mustangs (bolt ons) in my ss/sc which only has a CAI on it and i only loose about 1 - 2 car lengths to Z28's (lt1) when racing.. buddy has one and we race all the time..
Superchargers are across the entire RPM band, it effects all points of the car.. it just shifts your power curves up.. so yes.. it does increase speed/hp/tq


your talking about a high 15's to mid 16's second Camaro 1/4 mile vs
low - mid 14's 1/4 mile time on the balt, people with poor driving still are atleast hitting 14.7-14.8 in the ss/sc with NO driver mod

 

A V-6 Camaro legend? I think you should sell it and buy yourself new friends.