For all those with the Aeroforce Interceptor Guage SS Edition WITH the shift lights, please post here if you are (or have had) having problems with it and please describe them. Intense and Aeroforce need to know that the problem with these gauges is more widespread than they think. Thanks for your help.

I'll start:

PROBLEM: LCD failure
FIXED: Yes, by Aeroforce - total cost to return and have item sent back $60 CAD
UPDATE: LCD is failing again - takes up to 10 mins for LCD to display after car is started and will intermittenly shut off while car is on - shift lights still work though

PS Not to mention Intense sent the wrong colour background gauge to begin with but I thought it would be more of a hassle to return it for the right one - man was I wrong about that!!!

Is this an issue with Intense or Aeroforce..??

Intense is the VENDOR and Aeroforce is the SUPPLIER. I paid Intense and therefore would expect some support from them as well as the supplier. This is just a thread to determine how many others are having issues with this product. Is that OK Doc??

Intense is the VENDOR and Aeroforce is the SUPPLIER. I paid Intense and therefore would expect some support from them as well as the supplier. This is just a thread to determine how many others are having issues with this product. Is that OK Doc??
I know who makes the Aeroforce Interceptor Gauge I was trying to clarify the issue so others may contribute. Usually, if you buy a product from a supplier/vendor and have issues with it, the supplier/vendor will try to make good on it, ultimately it is the manufacturer that is liable for the product not the supplier.

BTW Memphisr24 started a thread about the gauge, why not continuing to contribute to that thread instead of making an entirely new one.

Mine just stoped working today....

it worked fine for a week or so....then today the screen wont "start up" it turns blue and the shift lights flash and still work but none of the information shows.

i got mine from PYFC.com..

i've contacted them AND aeroforce....

for the tune i'm runing and playin around with i NEED this dam gauge


ANYBODY ELSE HAVEING ANY PROBLUMS WITH THIS GAUGE NO MATTER WHERE U GOT IT?????

come on we cant be the only 2 people with problums....i know we arnt!!!

POST UP PEOPLE!

I have this problem. Gauge worked fine for one week. Now it takes up to 45 minutes before I get information on the screen to be displayed. It still lights up at start up, the lcd is lit, but no info is displayed.

I need this gauge as well. I still don't have 42 lb injectors and I'm watching for KR's near redline because of my lean condition.

Once again you all should have bought a Saturn. I had no problems with my gauge in the 3 months I had it. :) I bought direct also.

My back light didn't work, but they quickly replaced it. There should be a one year manufacturers warranty, especially how expensive they are.

Can you also post when you received the gauge. This may help Aeroforce isolate where the manufacturing defect occured. It seems that the problems are occuring with gauages bought and received within the month of April and May 2006. :cssNET:

PROBLEM: Wouldnt work in my car. Worked in my bro's redline
RESOLUTION: Sent back to aeroforce. costed 4.00 US mail to ship it back, was back to me within a week. Said was not programed for my car. Hooked up and worked great after this.

UPDATE: About 2 weeks after I got it back from above the Screen stopped displaying info. It hadnt worked for the last 24 hours. Sent email havent recieved response yet. It all off a sudden started to work again today.... IM not kool with this thing picking and choosing when to work. Will ask to send back for replacement.


I think the sun beating on it may have something to do with this? I noticed on hot days the colors where not as defined when I was using it. I now put up a sun shield in my front window to keep this from happening, but I didnt have problems with the sun beating on it. This thing died after using the sun shield :(

Thanks everyone for replying so far. Although the LCD will come on intermittently, this should not be happening. I'm in communication with Todd @ Aeroforce and I will be forwarding this thread to him so that WE ALL GET REPLACEMENTS.

PROBLEM: Wouldnt work in my car. Worked in my bro's redline
RESOLUTION: Sent back to aeroforce. costed 4.00 US mail to ship it back, was back to me within a week. Said was not programed for my car. Hooked up and worked great after this.

UPDATE: About 2 weeks after I got it back from above the Screen stopped displaying info. It hadnt worked for the last 24 hours. Sent email havent recieved response yet. It all off a sudden started to work again today.... IM not kool with this thing picking and choosing when to work. Will ask to send back for replacement.


I think the sun beating on it may have something to do with this? I noticed on hot days the colors where not as defined when I was using it. I now put up a sun shield in my front window to keep this from happening, but I didnt have problems with the sun beating on it. This thing died after using the sun shield :(

I thought it was the heat from the sun...I've blocked my gauge with a cardboard folder ever since my problem started happening...doesn't help. It's weird...it's not like it comes on gradually....it does not display info, and then it just pops up at a random time...no fading in, just displays the info. However, now it's not even working anymore.

If you look closely at a certain angle, you can still read the information EVER SO SLIGHTLY! I mean you have to take a magniying glass to see it. So the gauge still displays info and the shift lights work but it's just not bright I guess.

This is the response I got from Todd @ Aeroforce - judge for yourself.

"We need to figure out what GM did to the '06 Cobalt that is blowing out the LCD's on some of these cars. No other GM car is doing this. If I send you one right now it will most certainly fail again in your car in a few weeks, the same gauge will work for years in any other GM car. If you don't want to wait, I'll refund your money now. I don't know how long it will take. It's a shame that GM cannot be consistent with their products. We are eliminating the power wire on the '05 Cobalts, but cannot on the '06 because the bus configuration is different. It's no wonder they are headed towards bankrupcy."

So we have determined that it is an 06 only problem...right?

Apparently so

maybe you all hooked it up wrong!

lol

I hope so, I don't mean anything towards the 06 owners, but just that is good cuz mine is an 05...

:thumbsdow :thumbsdow :thumbsdow :thumbsdow :thumbsdow Well folks, looks like I'm sending mine back for a refund - I'm out $130 CAD between shipping, taxes and duties and I have asolutely nothing to show for it - :ca: BEWARE!!!

:thumbsdow :thumbsdow :thumbsdow :thumbsdow :thumbsdow Well folks, looks like I'm sending mine back for a refund - I'm out $130 CAD between shipping, taxes and duties and I have asolutely nothing to show for it - :ca: BEWARE!!!

Thanks a lot 2006ArrivalBlueSS. You forgot to mention that I've refunded all your shipping charges so far to have your gauge looked at, something practically unheard of from a manufacturer. I also explained to you that we are just becoming aware of this problem with SOME '06 Cobalts. Give us a break, it's not like we've knowingly been selling a defective product. The local '06 that we did all the testing on has not had any issues with his in 6 months. Because of this we thought the Cobalts were a done deal. GM has changed something or has variations on this particular car that we need to figure out. I told you if you could be a little patient it will get worked out. I'm also sorry the Canadian government makes shipping so difficult and expensive. I can't control that any more that I can control GM's lack of consistency in their cars.

This will eventually get resolved, just like an issue we had with '98 Grand Prix's and '04 GMC Denali's. There are literally hundreds if not thousands of GM models made between 1996 and 2006, and some of these get changed during the same model year. If you have one of these gauges and are having this problem, you won't get stuck with a worthless gauge. Now that we're aware of this it is being corrected.

I really don't understand why you're so belligerent all of a sudden. A couple days ago you thanked me for the support I've provided so far. I told you I would send another gauge as soon as we had a fix, at which time you could return yours. I doubt you'll get that offer from many places.

Todd
Aeroforce Technology Inc.

Thanks a lot 2006ArrivalBlueSS. You forgot to mention that I've refunded all your shipping charges so far to have your gauge looked at, something practically unheard of from a manufacturer. I also explained to you that we are just becoming aware of this problem with SOME '06 Cobalts. Give us a break, it's not like we've knowingly been selling a defective product. The local '06 that we did all the testing on has not had any issues with his in 6 months. Because of this we thought the Cobalts were a done deal. GM has changed something or has variations on this particular car that we need to figure out. I told you if you could be a little patient it will get worked out. I'm also sorry the Canadian government makes shipping so difficult and expensive. I can't control that any more that I can control GM's lack of consistency in their cars.

This will eventually get resolved, just like an issue we had with '98 Grand Prix's and '04 GMC Denali's. There are literally hundreds if not thousands of GM models made between 1996 and 2006, and some of these get changed during the same model year. If you have one of these gauges and are having this problem, you won't get stuck with a worthless gauge. Now that we're aware of this it is being corrected.

I really don't understand why you're so belligerent all of a sudden. A couple days ago you thanked me for the support I've provided so far. I told you I would send another gauge as soon as we had a fix, at which time you could return yours. I doubt you'll get that offer from many places.

Todd
Aeroforce Technology Inc.

Thanks Todd. What time frame are we talking about here? 1 week, 1 month or 1 year. I can be patient but up to a point. These gauges are almost $300 CAD, not $30 - so we're not talking a small sum. What reassurances are you giving those that purchased this gauge that a fix will be in place soon. If you would be so kind as to share this with everyone then I will consider your offer.

What we need to do is find a Cobalt SS here in the States willing to try a couple different "corrected" gauges. It may take a return shipment or two as well. I'd love to send them to you but we all know that won't work with customs. We'll make it worthwhile to whomever we get to volunteer. This car has to already have proven to have this problem though. The local Cobalts (3) that I have access to were early '06's, and they don't have this problem. We already had one here, the idea was to remove the power wire and let the filtered OBD2 port 12v (non-switched) power the gauge. This didn't work because the '06 has a redundant CAN bus which the '05 doesn't have, and this bus prevented the gauge from turning on/off properly. I won't go into any more gory details. The options are to provide increased filtering (one theory is that the '06 has a very harsh electrical system), or use the CAN bus instead of the old VPW one. The latter will allow the use of the OBD2 power - which is the ultimate goal. I'm hoping at worse it takes 2-4 weeks to have a fix for this. As you already know, the gauges work as is for a couple weeks or more, so I can't be premature in declaring a victory over this until some time has passed. Thanks for your patience, we'll get this worked out.

Todd
Aeroforce

My cobalt is an 05 and i'm having problems with it. The lcd screen is not blown, it works SOMETIMES. It just worked today. As soon as I turned the car on a second time today though, it did not work. I don't know what could possibly be wrong, unless the wire that we are wiring it too is not a good/correct wire to be hooking it up to.

What we need to do is find a Cobalt SS here in the States willing to try a couple different "corrected" gauges. It may take a return shipment or two as well. I'd love to send them to you but we all know that won't work with customs. We'll make it worthwhile to whomever we get to volunteer. This car has to already have proven to have this problem though. The local Cobalts (3) that I have access to were early '06's, and they don't have this problem. We already had one here, the idea was to remove the power wire and let the filtered OBD2 port 12v (non-switched) power the gauge. This didn't work because the '06 has a redundant CAN bus which the '05 doesn't have, and this bus prevented the gauge from turning on/off properly. I won't go into any more gory details. The options are to provide increased filtering (one theory is that the '06 has a very harsh electrical system), or use the CAN bus instead of the old VPW one. The latter will allow the use of the OBD2 power - which is the ultimate goal. I'm hoping at worse it takes 2-4 weeks to have a fix for this. As you already know, the gauges work as is for a couple weeks or more, so I can't be premature in declaring a victory over this until some time has passed. Thanks for your patience, we'll get this worked out.

Todd
Aeroforce

Hey Todd

I've been in contact with you via-email and you've told me to send mine back and all that and unlike the other guy i've been impressed with how you've handled this.

if GM is not constant that how can you know about it and how can you compinsate for it.

what i ask is i'm not all that far from...i'm in SouthEastern MI and if i can i'd be more then happy to try one of these "corrected" gauges your speking of

like me know...eather here or at Volkldude@aol.com

on a side note tho....i dont know if this matters BUT my car is an odd one its a 2005 body number with a 2006 ECU and some other parts are also an 06 model run.

i got the car thro a huge hook up in GM so its a lil odd.

I just wanted to clarify that I am not upset by the way Todd is handling this problem - I am rather impressesd. I guess I am more frustrated that the product doesn't work at this point than anything else. Todd is doing everything possible to make us happy and for this I am truly appreciative. Sorry for the confusion and for potentially harming the excellent reputation of the Aeroforce brand. :twothumbs

BTW - my car was built 08/12/05 so it is one of the first 2006's that rolled off the assembly line as well

I got an email from todd today tht is as follows:

Jeremy,

If you haven't already, please send you gauge back ASAP. I'll refund whatever shipping costs you incure. I need to get as many of these back as possible to trouble shoot this issue. Thanks.

Todd
Aeroforce

I will be sending mine back tomorrow.

wow seems as if i should wait a bit longer till i order mine..

My cobalt is an 05 and i'm having problems with it. The lcd screen is not blown, it works SOMETIMES. It just worked today. As soon as I turned the car on a second time today though, it did not work. I don't know what could possibly be wrong, unless the wire that we are wiring it too is not a good/correct wire to be hooking it up to.

When it doesn't come on, have you tried pulling the connector off of the OBD2 port and plugging it back in? This will make the gauge poll the car for parameters, kind of like resetting it. I'm not saying this is a solution, it shouldn't need to be reset. I'm just trying to understand what is happening. Do you have the shift lights and do they still function when the display is off?

If you haven't already, contact me at sales@aeroforcetech.com and I'll give you return shipping info. I want to check out as many of these as possible ASAP.

Todd

When it doesn't come on, have you tried pulling the connector off of the OBD2 port and plugging it back in? This will make the gauge poll the car for parameters, kind of like resetting it. I'm not saying this is a solution, it shouldn't need to be reset. I'm just trying to understand what is happening. Do you have the shift lights and do they still function when the display is off?

If you haven't already, contact me at sales@aeroforcetech.com and I'll give you return shipping info. I want to check out as many of these as possible ASAP.

Todd

Ive tried pulling it from both the back of the unit and from the ODB port. It doesnt fix it. The screen randomly decides when to work and when to not. I tried changing the Data rate, invert the screen, change the dimmer and nothing seems to get it to work like it should. Now whats funny is for the first 2 weeks it worked PERFECTLY no problems at all. This is a recent development.

Sometimes Ill be driving and it wont be working, and then all of a sudden the screen will just start working out of no where. IM pretty confident the unit is working behind the LCD, you just cant see the data.

i got mine about two weeks ago and it just stopped working today. The screen lights up blue, and the shift lights work, and nothing else works. This sucks. I'm pissed.

read this thred and you know what to do....

contact "aerforce" via e-mail...there sales guy Todd will take care of you

he's done an awesome job with mine so far

email sent last night to sales@aeroforce.com Now i wait

Damn looks like I'm going to have to wait to get this.
I have an early model 05 Todd do you think I'll have the same problems?

my other question is I want to use it to read my air feul ratios as well, so I guess I have to buy an O2 sensor, is there a specific one I have to buy or any recomended ones?

Damn looks like I'm going to have to wait to get this.
I have an early model 05 Todd do you think I'll have the same problems?

my other question is I want to use it to read my air feul ratios as well, so I guess I have to buy an O2 sensor, is there a specific one I have to buy or any recomended ones?

You want a wideband O2 sensor.

yah but aren't there multiple options for the Wide band? I've seen some, that come with the Gauge, 400+ dollars, I won't need the gauge if I had this Aeroforce gauge, so where, can I buy just the Wide band O2 sensor?

bump

Again, sorry to hear about the problems with the Cobalts. Whether it's an '05 or '06 I'd recommend waiting a couple more weeks until we have a solid solution. We've already sent one out to a forum member here with one possible solution. Another is going out tomorrow. We're even thinking about buying a Cobalt to have full time to research this. The Cobalt/Redlines are the best application for these gauges of all the GM cars, there's no way I'm going to let this go unresolved.

As for the wide band kits...

Initially I was recommending the LC-1 by Innovate. It comes with just the sensor and controller for $199. I bought one and returned it. There are issues with the analog outputs of this unit going bad, mine lasted 2 hours. There is an LC-1 forum on the Innovate site addressing this. Also, you need to calibrate the sensor yourself, which is not difficult, but it must be repeated every so often which could be a pain for some people (you have to pull the sensor out of the exhaust and expose it to free air for the calibration). Finally, with no feedback as to the units accuracy, I was unable to feel confident that the unit calibrated properly.

I now am using an AEM unit which I got from www.rpmoutlet.com for $279. It comes calibrated with a display that also acts as the controller. It is very easy to use and install. I've had one on one of my cars for 2 years now with no issues. You're paying $80 more but there are no analog output worries, no calibration issues, and you have a display to check the accuracy of the analog outs which you would connect to our gauge. Once I connected everything and verified that I was reading the correct A/F ratio on my Interceptor gauge, I tucked the AEM display/controller behind the dash.

Todd
Aeroforce

I think I solved my problem with the gauge. Apparantely these gauges don't like ANY heat at all when they are turned off. I'm talking about even if it lays in the sun for 30 seconds while turned off. Now, I tested the heat problem with my brand new pair of boxer shorts. YES BOXER SHORTS lol. Bought them from aeropostale. Anyway, I covered the gauge with the boxers when I went to my gf's house. It was about 75-80 degrees out. I didn't think it would do anything. However, when I came back out to my car, started it up, the startup screen did not come up but the gauge did start working after a minute. I've been covering my gauge ever since and it doesn't work right away, but it does work after a couple of minutes. So I think that my gauge is very sensitive to the sunlight and it has to be protected all the time from the sun. It must be a vampire or something. Only works in the night muwahahahaha

thanks for the info Todd, I guess I'll try to find the best price I can on a wide band that I can.

I was really hopeing that I would be able to buy just a sensor, and not the controller, to save some money.
guess not.

unless you guys are planning on making something. HINT HINT NUDGE NUDGE, would sell for sure.lol

I have been waiting almost a month for this Gauge I'm not going to lie and say I'm not a lil pissed. but I look at it this way If the problems are worked out before I get mine and everything is peachee. I will be the happiest MoFo well untill I get a tune done;)

Hey Todd

have you ever used the PLX m-300 or M-200?

Hey Todd

have you ever used the PLX m-300 or M-200?

No, but if they have 0-5v linear analog outs (this is the standard) they will work fine. The only unit that I know of that does not have a linear out is the Zietronix. It has a very user unfriendly output that requires a curve fit.

Todd

do you know if there is a fix for the LC-1?

Update: We've got 2 gauges in use with added voltage protection, and so far so good. I read above about the heat issue, and this should not be an issue. The displays are rated for 152 deg F continuous use. We do recommend not letting them bake in an Arizona parking lot for hours but at worse they should look washed out until they cool off a bit. Again, this is not an issue we are seeing on other cars. I think Bryan's is working fine so far even when subjected to the hot sun. Anyway, were on track here to get this figured out.

Todd

Awesome, excited to get this gauge.

yes sir!!!...

so far shes turning on just fine and its suvived 2hot and muggy days in the direct sun while the car sits in the lot at work.


its out lasted my first unit so i think you've got a handle of this problum.

Thanks for the updates Todd and 06black. Todd, what are your best estimates for getting the replacment gauges out to those requiring them? Also, will the 180 day guarantee be in effect with the replacement gauges or will they will retroactive to the original purchase dates?

Thanks, Ang

Don't Forget about the ones that are still waiting to get there first one....

good to hear the progress....i sent mine back in on like 6/28... hope to get it back soon

Don't Forget about the ones that are still waiting to get there first one....


Yah what he said.

I was ready to buy it thursday with all the other stuff, I bought.

you guys have to understand this...

They stoped/slowed shipping due to this issue so once we get the problum worked out he can make the changes needed to all of them THEN they call be shipped.

any progress/news? Getting anxious

so far my fix is perfect!!!!

survived many days in the direct hot sun...and plenty of on/off cycles.

I think you've got the problum fixed!

Excellent!!! OK, Aeroforce, it's time to shine. Get those replacement gauges out to us who have been patiently waiting for this fix. I am really glad I waited. Thanks for convincing me Todd!!! Is there anything else we need to do or can we just expect shipment of the new gauges soon??

so how long do I have to wait until the new gauges are at intense so I can order?

We're starting to send out replacements ( we only got a half dozen or so returned). Officially we state a 6 month warranty, but unless there's blatant misuse we've been covering repairs for a year when needed. We'll continue that policy.

Todd
Aeroforce

Have any Idea when you are going to be shipping out to your vendors??

has anyone gotten their's back yet??

will be sending mine in soon for work... do i send it to Pat?

bump

Send it to:

Aeroforce Technology Inc.
10500 Hawke Rd
Columbia Station, OH 44028

What is the status on these gauges? Can we order now? I need one.

I got mine back today! Works GREAT!

I got mine back today! Works GREAT!

Excellent...btw, I just noticed you used my pic in your avatar :lol: http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=22813&highlight=ricer+month

What is the status on these gauges? Can we order now? I need one.

Intense should have these in stock, and our order page should be enabled later this week.

Todd
Aeroforce

Intense should have these in stock, and our order page should be enabled later this week.

Todd
Aeroforce

Yeap I already ordered one yesterday night!! Intense already shipped it today. :twothumbs Great service! Do you know what AEROFORCE did to fix them? I read that they fixed all the problems they were having.

We're starting to send out replacements ( we only got a half dozen or so returned). Officially we state a 6 month warranty, but unless there's blatant misuse we've been covering repairs for a year when needed. We'll continue that policy.

Todd
Aeroforce

Ive been busy so just sent mine back Priority mail on Monday. You should get it very soon.

Yeap I already ordered one yesterday night!! Intense already shipped it today. :twothumbs Great service! Do you know what AEROFORCE did to fix them? I read that they fixed all the problems they were having.

We added a higher level of over-voltage protection. These cars are obviously prone to some serious voltage spikes that are not common in other GM cars since these were the only ones experiencing this.

Todd

few days gone by and still runnin like a champ. Excellent customer service by Aeroforce

We added a higher level of over-voltage protection. These cars are obviously prone to some serious voltage spikes that are not common in other GM cars since these were the only ones experiencing this.

Todd


I received it today. Just installed it...running fine so far.

i noticed that mine freezes sometimes. Like I will be coasting, getting 110 MPG, and then I will hit the gas hard, and it can take up to 10 seconds to refresh itself. It never did this before. Kinda defeats the purpose if you ask me. Like when you are at WOT, you want to see your boost, or KR right? Well not when it's frozen and not showing your current stats. This happen to anyone else? I just emailed Aeroforce about it....i will see what they have to say.

i noticed that mine freezes sometimes. Like I will be coasting, getting 110 MPG, and then I will hit the gas hard, and it can take up to 10 seconds to refresh itself. It never did this before. Kinda defeats the purpose if you ask me. Like when you are at WOT, you want to see your boost, or KR right? Well not when it's frozen and not showing your current stats. This happen to anyone else? I just emailed Aeroforce about it....i will see what they have to say.


Didnt you just get the gauge back! Wasn't it fixed already or is this a totally new problem?

before the LCD screen wouldnt display information. Now it displays information, but it takes up to 10 seconds sometimes to refresh itself. Like when coasting, PSI is like -9. Well if you go WOT, it still says -9 for up to 10 seconds before updating to 12, 15 PSI etc. There is an option to change the data rate (how fast it updates) and i have it set to the fastest rate...

WOW!! I just ordered mine from INTENSE and they said "we should have red gauges in pretty soon". I really hope EVERY problem was solved. I've had very good customer service with INTENSE so I'm really not worring too much. :cssNET:

Seth: are the shift lights working? and are all the readings that slow to update?

M88: I hope so too man. I ordered my red gauge from intense last weekend. Can't wait to get it :)

before the LCD screen wouldnt display information. Now it displays information, but it takes up to 10 seconds sometimes to refresh itself. Like when coasting, PSI is like -9. Well if you go WOT, it still says -9 for up to 10 seconds before updating to 12, 15 PSI etc. There is an option to change the data rate (how fast it updates) and i have it set to the fastest rate...

whats the Refresh rate set at?

planning on buying one from intense, hopefully it will work, im trying to see if they have any of the older editions, without the shift lights, beacuse those seem to be problem free.........

before the LCD screen wouldnt display information. Now it displays information, but it takes up to 10 seconds sometimes to refresh itself. Like when coasting, PSI is like -9. Well if you go WOT, it still says -9 for up to 10 seconds before updating to 12, 15 PSI etc. There is an option to change the data rate (how fast it updates) and i have it set to the fastest rate...

Be sure that the connector is seated all the way in the OBD2 port, and that none of the OBD2 port pins are pushed in, which is not that uncommon. We're sending you another anyway just to be sure. This has no relation to the 12v power issue.

Todd

I just got mine from Intense last week and installed it on Sat. I love it except I also have the problem with the very slow refresh rate. I notice you guys are located in Columbia Station. I live like 5 minutes from you guys. Can I maybe stop by sometime and have you check it out and see what you guys think?

you can adjust the refresh rate in the gauges menu,

set it to "1" and you'll be happy!

Done that already, its still too slow in my opinion

Just filled all of our red gauge backorders today with more on the way, we sell these things faster than Aeroforce can stock us :) Kudos to Todd at Aeroforce for being very active in taking care of customer issues, they are the epitome of vendor's we like to deal with.

Safe to buy one for my 06 ss-sc? I bought my car about 2 months ago. Any problems still?

listening...

I called and ordered mine today, and intense said that todd was adding some precautionary thigs to the gauges and this shipment should have no problems. but I have an 05 so mine should be fine anyway.

Be sure that the connector is seated all the way in the OBD2 port, and that none of the OBD2 port pins are pushed in, which is not that uncommon. We're sending you another anyway just to be sure. This has no relation to the 12v power issue.

Todd


Todd I read alot of your posts and am very impressed with your great customer service.:twothumbs

wait a minute, you mean that the 05's never had problems.

damn I could have orderd this long ago.

to all who where asking if its safe to buy yet....

the answer is YES!

I did the testing on the gauges with the "fix" and so far its gone 3 weeks and NOT A SINGLE problum!

Todd and aeroforce has fixed the issue and this is such an awesome gauge that it doesnt make sence to NOT get one!

These gauges display data as fast as the car responds to the request. The Cobalts I've seen are in the 7-10 update/second range at the "1" data rate.

I just got mine from Intense last week and installed it on Sat. I love it except I also have the problem with the very slow refresh rate. I notice you guys are located in Columbia Station. I live like 5 minutes from you guys. Can I maybe stop by sometime and have you check it out and see what you guys think?

PM sent.

Todd

to all who where asking if its safe to buy yet....

the answer is YES!

I did the testing on the gauges with the "fix" and so far its gone 3 weeks and NOT A SINGLE problum!

Todd and aeroforce has fixed the issue and this is such an awesome gauge that it doesnt make sence to NOT get one!

I got mine back yesterday hooked it up and its been working great ever since. In the box with my returned interceptor was a check for return shipping which was pretty kool, as I didnt even ask for it back. I am happy to have my interceptor back and working in my car and hopefully it will stay that way from this point forward :D

the datarate is set to 1, which is the fastest. I also tried it at the other settings, but same issue. I definetily do not regret getting this gauge. If there EVER is a problem, i know for a fact that Aeroforce will properly take care of you. They have EXCELLENT customer service. As you guys have read, I noticed the problem yesterday, and Todd has already put a new gauge in the mail. I will let everyone know. I am sure it is something simple, and I doubt every gauge will have the issue.

If you are considering buying the gauge...quit thinkin, and buy it! Well worth the money. Aeroforce definetily backs their products 100%

I already did a search and this thread came up so here goes...does the Interceptor display A/F ratio? I was looking at the features list on Intense.com and was too retarded to figure it out. Does anyone have the right answer?

i unhooked all the clips, checked them, and plugged them back in. Still refreshes slow at times. I'll see how the new gauge works as soon as i get it

The AEROFORCE Interceptor Scan Gauge (http://www.aeroforcetech.com/Redline_Cobalt_tech.html)does the following:

RPM
MPH
Intake Air Temperature pre intercooler
Intake Air Temperature post Intercooler *
Mass Air Flow Sensor Frequency *
Mass Air Flow Sensor (lb/min.)
Engine Coolant Temperature
Injector Pulse Width
Long Term Fuel Trim
Short Term Fuel Trim
O2 Sensor Voltage
Manifold Pressure in PSI (Boost pressure)
Supercharger Inlet Pressure *
Ignition Advance
Knock Retard *
Engine Run Time
Battery Voltage
Throttle Position Percentage
Engine Load
Instantaneous fuel economy
Horsepower
Analog input #1
Analog input #2

* Critical tuning parameters not found on most other scan tools for the Cobalt/Redline!

I already did a search and this thread came up so here goes...does the Interceptor display A/F ratio? I was looking at the features list on Intense.com and was too retarded to figure it out. Does anyone have the right answer?

The gauge has 2 analog inputs, either of which can be used to connect to the output of a wide band kit. You still need the wide band O2 and controller, you'll be connecting the 0-5v output (just about every wide band kit has one - just be sure it is a linear output - which just about every one is except the Zietronix) of the controller to our gauge. You'll then be able to read and log the A/F ratio on the Interceptor gauge.

Todd
Aeroforce

hey Todd

any Idea if they fixed the Issues with the LC-1?

hey Todd

any Idea if they fixed the Issues with the LC-1?

I sent my LC-1 back to Innovate to get the analog out fixed, have not heard back from them yet. I hear that they have supposedly corrected the issue with the outputs failing.

Todd
Aeroforce

thats good, I wanted to get a Wide band to go with my aeroforce gauge. and had wanded to use the LC-1 because it's supposed to be one of the highest resolution, and cheaper then buying other widebands with gauges.

WTF.... HELP. I tried constant and only on with the key, but still the screen comes on and off randomly

tood any news??? did u ship the new gauge out? haven't gotten it yet. thanks

and btw, still refreshing verrry slow...i was kinda hoping maybe it was from the heat or something...

Did anyone else tap into an accessory circuit in the fuse panel. I used a mini 10 amp add a circuit. crimped it to the wire, hooked up both wires to the gauge, then plugged into the odbII then the fusebox. When I turned on the car the first time the gauge powered right up, and i was like sweet. no problems here.

but then it shut off. and now it comes on and off randomly. I thought this was the fixed gauge, the "no more problems" gauge. WTF. last night on my ride home it came on 3 or 4 times then went off. this morning on my way to work it didn't power on at all.

I just tapped into the 12V source for the stock boost gauge and I haven't had any problems with mine yet.

I tapped mine and ran 10ga for the + and ground all the way up the A-pillar to my radar detector. That way it will be easy to add another gauge to my tripple pillar pod eventually.

Did anyone else tap into an accessory circuit in the fuse panel. I used a mini 10 amp add a circuit. crimped it to the wire, hooked up both wires to the gauge, then plugged into the odbII then the fusebox. When I turned on the car the first time the gauge powered right up, and i was like sweet. no problems here.

but then it shut off. and now it comes on and off randomly. I thought this was the fixed gauge, the "no more problems" gauge. WTF. last night on my ride home it came on 3 or 4 times then went off. this morning on my way to work it didn't power on at all.


HELP BUMP!!!

sounds like your haveing issues's like the first one.

and if you did infact get a "corrected" gauge i'll be shocked cuz i did the testing and mine still works perfect.

drove to lunch, came on about 20 seconds after the car was started, was on until i got to the place. got back in to drive to the office and it didn't even come on the whole time. WTF

I guess nobody from Intense or Aeroforce wants to help either. I sent e-mails and called, but no response

Ttt....

reeper, it sounds like you are just having issues with power to the gauge....try tapping a different source and see if the problem persists

tried tapping directly into power, and replacing the stock gauge with it. same, on and off randomly.

^^So now it is on and off? I thought you couldn't even ever get it to light at all.

If it's doing the on and off gig you might possibly have one of the older (pre-fix) gauges.

Who did you order from?

I have one of the older gauges and it does that all the time. It works whenever it wants to. I think my warranty is up so I'm stuck with this piece...

I have one of the older gauges and it does that all the time. It works whenever it wants to. I think my warranty is up so I'm stuck with this piece...

not true.

Todd and aeroforce have been covering this problum even if the warrenty is over.

e-mail then and tell him your story.

Yeah Aeroforce is a good company. They had a bad batch of gauges but they are more than willing to help people out. Just email them.

tried tapping directly into power, and replacing the stock gauge with it. same, on and off randomly.

Sorry to hear that man. You have to be a bit more descriptive of the issue. When you say it goes out, does power completely go out or does the visual details just go away? Cause the issue I had the screen was still backlit you just couldnt make out the data.

So is it like the pwr issue, or you cant make out the text issue?


I too tapped off the stock boost gauges 12 v. Works fine for me.

Todd I haven't received a new gauge yet..any news on the fix for these?

I talked to Todd last Friday about my gauge refreshing slow. Seems like a really nice guy and great customer service. Since I live like 5 minutes from their company we were going to get together so he could take a look but we ran out of time. He said hes on vaction till Aug. 1st So you might have a little more trouble getting a hold of him untill then. His business partner Pat should still be there though. Also if Pat reads this, sorry I didn't have time to call you back. I've been working 12hr shifts so not much time to do anything. I will try to get back to you asap.

Did anyone else tap into an accessory circuit in the fuse panel. I used a mini 10 amp add a circuit. crimped it to the wire, hooked up both wires to the gauge, then plugged into the odbII then the fusebox. When I turned on the car the first time the gauge powered right up, and i was like sweet. no problems here.

but then it shut off. and now it comes on and off randomly. I thought this was the fixed gauge, the "no more problems" gauge. WTF. last night on my ride home it came on 3 or 4 times then went off. this morning on my way to work it didn't power on at all.

I'm out of town this week, and am not checking this site every day. Anyway, what you described is unusual, if you're sure the power connection is good you should probably return it to have us take a look at it.

Also, for the guy with the older version, contact me at sales@aeroforcetech.com, describe the problem, and we'll have you send it back for repair/replacement. In case I don't read it first mention that you talked to me on these forums.

Todd