View Full Version : 2.0 S/C tune update


ludicristSS
07-01-2006, 02:11 PM
Well here is the deal .

Providing you send in your ECM 06's. 05's Order a new flashed ECM and send yours back as a core [You will need a crank relearn If you choose this method .] It's best to send in your ECM .
If your car is stock or CAI/Pulley any size /Header/injectors . Just let us know on the orderform .

You can get your car base lined on a dyno with A/F and send it with your ECM . [ This will help with your tune if you have anything past above . ]

We can tune for any mods that you have done or will plan on doing .

you will need an order sheet http://www.tunetyme.net/orderform.doc

Price is $495 includes return shipping .

BTW this will be an upgrade to anyone with a GM stage kit reflash [ We've seen what they have done and it's the bare minimum]

Due to circumstances out of our control it may take 5-7 business days for you to receive your ECM .

We will shortly be able to do these live at our shop and on the dyno.

And as with all of our tune's If you trade in your Cobalt SS and buy a Trailblazer SS will they give you a tune for the difference ? [That applies to any tune we have BTW]


Thanks
Matt

DTM2188
07-01-2006, 02:19 PM
Where at in central NJ are you guys located?

ludicristSS
07-01-2006, 02:39 PM
Where at in central NJ are you guys located? I do most of my work out of Johnys Garage in Longbranch. But I have 2 dealers who resale my product also Goodyear in Pt Pleasant and SeaCoast Chevy in Wanamassa. I also do some flash tuning from my home in Toms River [ I had surgery and am not allowed in the shop till I get this collar off My father runs it ]

DTM2188
07-01-2006, 02:51 PM
Could I come to your Longbranch location to get a full tune then?

sneaky
07-01-2006, 03:12 PM
you can get the hp tuner software for the same price. at least the basic package.

ludicristSS
07-01-2006, 07:32 PM
you can get the hp tuner software for the same price. at least the basic package.
Yes you can now let me tell you why it's not a good idea

1. Need a wide band O2 [ not one of those shitty auto meter a/f meters ]
2. Need a Dyno or rent Dyno time 75-85 for three pulls . [ takes us about 7]
3. You can [and many have] destroy your motor . [if you go to lean or rich ]
4. 3-4 days worth of reading and sorting through people's BS to know what to change
5. A laptop [ If it dies between transfers you will have a nice shinny $ 400 Brick for an ECM ] You will need the dealer to reload the new software if that happens
6. Every time you go to the dealer you have to reflash it back to stock . [ not good when you got a smaller pulley and larger injectors on there ]

Look I'm not saying HP is bad I happen to like it . But don't think for one second you will be able to tune your car to 1/2 of the potential that we can.

Lyndon Wester has been tuning GM's for 20 yrs . He has contracts with the Dept of defense . How long do you think it would take you to get to where he or myself are ?

BTW as you mod your car we will update it for free you pay shipping .

Joewit
07-01-2006, 07:35 PM
Are ypu going to be doing custom dyno tunes at your shop?

ludicristSS
07-01-2006, 07:35 PM
Could I come to your Longbranch location to get a full tune then?
As soon as I can do it live you will know. We schedule some Dyno time right around the corner from Atco so we can tune it then go to the track .

You can give me a list of your mods and send in your ECM I can bet Lyndon will be within 10% of what we do on the dyno .

DTM2188
07-01-2006, 08:17 PM
As soon as I can do it live you will know. We schedule some Dyno time right around the corner from Atco so we can tune it then go to the track .

You can give me a list of your mods and send in your ECM I can bet Lyndon will be within 10% of what we do on the dyno .

That would be perfect, I'm about 15-20 mins. from Atco. But instead of shipping you my ECM, could you just do it at that location when it is available?

ludicristSS
07-01-2006, 09:04 PM
That would be perfect, I'm about 15-20 mins. from Atco. But instead of shipping you my ECM, could you just do it at that location when it is available? It might be awhile . If your vin is in the system on 06's or all 05's I can order you a ECM based on your mods then you can come to the shop we'll install it and go for some log runs . or put it on the dyno and log it if anything need to be changed we'll take it from there . All I need is a filled out order sheet and I'll have the ECM in 2-3 days . [ you will need a crank relearn done I'll take care of that . but FYI for anyone to far from me you will have to go to your GM dealer and ask them to do it some will do it for free some will charge 1/2 hr labor . Again you only need to do this If I order you an ECM so you'll have 0 down time .

DTM2188
07-02-2006, 02:04 AM
Sorry for all the questions, but if I just come to your shop with my car, you will be able to tune it that day without having to order another ECM, right? Also, do you guys have Saturday hours?

Joewit
07-02-2006, 02:18 AM
I havve 2 pcms so would i be able to send you one of mine for you to tune so i could avoid haveing to do the CASE relearn agian?

ludicristSS
07-02-2006, 03:55 PM
I havve 2 pcms so would i be able to send you one of mine for you to tune so i could avoid haveing to do the CASE relearn agian?That would be fine as long as they both work in your car before you send them . If it's blank I would need your vin and you will need the relearn .

ludicristSS
07-02-2006, 03:58 PM
Sorry for all the questions, but if I just come to your shop with my car, you will be able to tune it that day without having to order another ECM, right? Also, do you guys have Saturday hours?
Questions ????????? Isn't that what these forums are all about ? Fire away to all .....LOL
I will not be able to live flash the car I have to send them to have them done . I can based on your exsisiting mods [ pulley size ,injector ,CAI ,header , ] Develop a tune have it flash you will come to my shop I'll install the PCM and you'll be on you way . It will be a couple of weeks before I can Flash them Live .

shiftingloco310
07-02-2006, 04:13 PM
hey ludicristss i live off exit 8 on the nj turnpike so when you're ready to do live flashes let me know.

ludicristSS
07-02-2006, 04:17 PM
hey ludicristss i live off exit 8 on the nj turnpike so when you're ready to do live flashes let me know.
Just doit now then I can and will update it for Free when i can live flash . Or you can wait ??????????????????????????????????? LOL What ever you guys want to do .

If you want I'll meet up with anyone willing to drive to the shop or Toms River area Log your car and have the tune done for it [ Basicly the same as live but you would wait 2-3 days before your PCM would come to me or you and you will put it in and get the relearn done]

FYI to all any GM dealer can do the Relearn so if you worried about going to the chevy dealer and them asking why, go to a pontiac dealer and have it done it's no big deal. They don't care .

ludicristSS
07-02-2006, 04:47 PM
Bro that is rediculous intense is offering it for 200 for a new ecm and a program for 100.
by the way if you have the hp tuner and pay intense to send you a file you can just upload it if the dealer flashes it out for free not waiting, second off those aem wideband gauges are accurate to within .01 i doubt what you have is much better and one more thing any dyno should have a wideband hookup. No offense tuning over the computer doesn't compare to having the car there to tune it.

Bro a NEW GM PCM retails for over 450 . They are swapping your PCM or tunning your's

I'm not starting anything between Intense and TuneTime
Just stating facts .

You have HPtuner how much ? $495
Intense program $100
looks like $595 to me .
+ each time the dealer software updates its $100 and our is free ?

Do you get free updates as you mod your car ?

If you trade in your Cobalt SS and buy a Trailblazer SS will they give you a tune for the difference ? [That applies to any tune we have BTW]
Can they guaranty The dealer cant see it if they do a BCM update ?

AEM gauge is or any gauge start's at 14.7 then goes + or - .
BTW Innovative is the way to go .
If you install a 5 wire 02 W/B then yes that is the same as a dyno or close.
If you install a W/B after a Cat it will be close but never on, as air is trapped in the cat leading to a slighlty false reading . You get my point .

Thats great for intense. I've seen there Dyno chart .
If you don't like the price then don't buy it .
You get what you pay for .

97cavie24ls
07-02-2006, 07:18 PM
Yes you can now let me tell you why it's not a good idea

1. Need a wide band O2 [ not one of those shitty auto meter a/f meters ]
2. Need a Dyno or rent Dyno time 75-85 for three pulls . [ takes us about 7]
3. You can [and many have] destroy your motor . [if you go to lean or rich ]
4. 3-4 days worth of reading and sorting through people's BS to know what to change
5. A laptop [ If it dies between transfers you will have a nice shinny $ 400 Brick for an ECM ] You will need the dealer to reload the new software if that happens
6. Every time you go to the dealer you have to reflash it back to stock . [ not good when you got a smaller pulley and larger injectors on there ]

Look I'm not saying HP is bad I happen to like it . But don't think for one second you will be able to tune your car to 1/2 of the potential that we can.

Lyndon Wester has been tuning GM's for 20 yrs . He has contracts with the Dept of defense . How long do you think it would take you to get to where he or myself are ?

BTW as you mod your car we will update it for free you pay shipping .


so yous saying you can a car that is 1500miles from better than some with hp tuners and the car right in front of them

hahahahahahahaha , your a douche man , for thinking other wise

1) not every car out there will take the same tune and make the same HP , why you think each car dyno's different

2) tuning eac car to its needs in its inviorment is the best way

3) hp tuners has been around along time , so finding someone local to help tune the car should be easy



i dont dubt your tuning abilities , but i seriously think your ignorant to think you can tune everyone's cars better when youve never seen their cars , only the 1's you have had axcess to

that is like me saying i can drive anyones car , no matter than amount of mods and making passes atleast 1 second better , while in some slight cases it might be true

i bet that out of 100 cars id be lucky to get 3-5 cars to go a second faster , or even close

for me think think otherwise is just plain stupid and ignorant , and honestly you thinking you can do better tuning a car youve never see is the same !!!!!!!! stupid and ignorant !!!!!

roccityroller
07-02-2006, 07:26 PM
pm when you get 2.2 support

DTM2188
07-02-2006, 10:21 PM
3) hp tuners has been around along time , so finding someone local to help tune the car should be easy

Unfortunatly I have had this problem, but...be sure to update us when you can do the tune live. I am definatly interested, but am not quite ready yet for the tune, so when you can do the live tune, let me know. Thanks.

ludicristSS
07-03-2006, 09:53 AM
so yous saying you can a car that is 1500miles from better than some with hp tuners and the car right in front of them

hahahahahahahaha , your a douche man , for thinking other wise

1) not every car out there will take the same tune and make the same HP , why you think each car dyno's different

2) tuning eac car to its needs in its inviorment is the best way

3) hp tuners has been around along time , so finding someone local to help tune the car should be easy



i dont dubt your tuning abilities , but i seriously think your ignorant to think you can tune everyone's cars better when youve never seen their cars , only the 1's you have had axcess to

that is like me saying i can drive anyones car , no matter than amount of mods and making passes atleast 1 second better , while in some slight cases it might be true

i bet that out of 100 cars id be lucky to get 3-5 cars to go a second faster , or even close

for me think think otherwise is just plain stupid and ignorant , and honestly you thinking you can do better tuning a car youve never see is the same !!!!!!!! stupid and ignorant !!!!!
What I'm saying is We can out tune [Safer I might add ] 9 out of 10 people [ Hell 5 out 10 local shop's cost of a Dyno tune ? 500-700] who buy hptuners and think they know what there doing and the cost would never be more then $495 .
Thats my point . I said nothing about you taking it to a shop that has tuned these cars before.

FYI Ware you are isn't a secret we calculate the weather info and ask for your elevation [I know you didn't even look at our order sheet to see what we ask .....ignorant ]
All you saw was a chance to argue with a Supporting vendor and NOT WHAT I POSTED.

ludicristSS
07-03-2006, 10:23 AM
No your not reading correctly they send you a file you save it on your computer and upload it anytime you get reflashed. You still forget you NEVER SEE THE CAR you only tune from what I send you a tune in person it 20x better than a tune over the internet. By the way you said you've seen the intense dyno charts where are yours with 20+ years of tuning behind you? Free updates? You mean pull up my hp tuners software and add or subtract fuel, and if you mean timing and other stuff I would have to go to a dyno and upload my shit to your computer and then have you tune it? Almost anyone can do that. I sent my dyno's to rev it up b/c their peice was malfunctioning and lets say to keep it short I payed my dealer 800 dollars to fix my pcm they fucked up you think I would ever send it out to someone who has never even seen my car in person you're crazy. Anybody reading this thread go buy the hp tuners ( same price as what this guy is asking without the software)and pay for a custom tune locally it will be to your advantage in the long run. Remeber you get what you pay for HP tuners and custom tune 495+200 for tune=695 your package 495 w/o hp tuners.

Based on what happed to your car I understand your frustration but I didn't do it and We stand behind Everything we sell . Why ? because we use it .

Just because some half bit tuner fucked up your PCM give's you no right to judge me or Westers Garage [ 20 yrs ] .

I guess you like your dealer charging you over retail to fix your PCM [ Retail is 469 + them reinstalling GM software 1 hr book time. 89-120 hr] Means you'll bash then too.

What do I have to see about the car is it a one off that no one else in the world has ? DID GM put a different tune in all of them ? What are you talking about.??????
I have stated Whatever your mods we can tune for them. Pull up you hptuners and add or subtract fuel [ Is it that simple ???? ] Go pay for your local tune [ are you kidding me how many shop's That dyno tune have even seen 2.0s/c let alone tune it ?] When I said updates I didn't say stabs in the dark cause now you have tuning software and your a tuner ?

So your telling me that Westers Garage / Vector motorsports / Fast chips / Lavernois /SLP
Don't know what there doing ?

$495 + 200 for a tune ? Oh that's right some else will tune it over the internet [ Are we going in circles ?] . VIA Email . Or we do it for $495

You do get what you pay for . Even when you use a piggy back controller is that what killed your OEM PCM ?

BTW we don't use HP tuner to tune the PCM .


Bro I'm a supporting vendor. You have gone above and beyond the rules of this forum .

ludicristSS
07-03-2006, 10:31 AM
Unfortunatly I have had this problem, but...be sure to update us when you can do the tune live. I am definatly interested, but am not quite ready yet for the tune, so when you can do the live tune, let me know. Thanks.

You got it look foward to meeting you .

DTM2188
07-03-2006, 11:03 AM
Good to here. About how much performance increase do you think we could see...if you can even estimate that I'm not sure.

ludicristSS
07-03-2006, 11:41 AM
Good to here. About how much performance increase do you think we could see...if you can even estimate that I'm not sure.
We'll to give you an Idea The STS-V has a hand built 4.4 S/C we got 40 rwhp and 20 rwtq [peak 35 from 3500 up ] with no other changes . I will not speculate but you will get a boost in midrange power and based on all of the s/c applications I have done with Lyndon Wester you will be impressed .

Woodyr007
07-03-2006, 12:05 PM
I'm down to be the guinee pig here, lol. So maybe I am stupid but what exactly is the re-learn from the dealer? I am in calfornia and to be honest hp tuners scrares the hell out of me, lol. I already have stage 2. Thanks!!

eastcoastz
07-03-2006, 12:27 PM
I'm in Lakewood and am intrested in this also.

DTM2188
07-03-2006, 01:51 PM
We'll to give you an Idea The STS-V has a hand built 4.4 S/C we got 40 rwhp and 20 rwtq [peak 35 from 3500 up ] with no other changes . I will not speculate but you will get a boost in midrange power and based on all of the s/c applications I have done with Lyndon Wester you will be impressed .

Pretty impressive numbers, I can't wait...get going live soon, lol. Keep me updated.

glockglade
07-03-2006, 02:25 PM
B/c we are all grown men ont this forum and internet forum arguing is childish I will drop it however I will retract my statement about the other company thing. Good luck with your buisiness. I will remove those posts. Hey if I hear good things from people I might give you a try it looks like other people are willing to so I will as well. After all we are all freinds on this site my bad, just had a bad day at work might of taken it out on you which is my bad.

CobaltSS313
07-03-2006, 02:44 PM
interested in seeing what you can do, i have the intense stage 3 tune but this check engine light for thelean code is crap, i'll be waiting to see what you got

ludicristSS
07-03-2006, 04:05 PM
I'm down to be the guinee pig here, lol. So maybe I am stupid but what exactly is the re-learn from the dealer? I am in calfornia and to be honest hp tuners scrares the hell out of me, lol. I already have stage 2. Thanks!! HP shouldn't scare you . Thats not what we sell . What we sell is our ability to make it easy for you to get the most out of your car with out a lot of cash outlay [ when you look at the big picture ] and no questioning by the Dealer . The crank relearn has to be done at any GM dealer. I think it's a good Idea to have it done at a non chevy GM dealer or one you don't go to for service [What they dont know or can't see will not hurt them ] The guy at buick dosent give a rats ass about your Cobalt and he will gladly preform the service .

ludicristSS
07-03-2006, 04:07 PM
I'm in Lakewood and am intrested in this also.
Shoot me a pm or give me a call 732-232-5177 and we'll log you ride then order a PCM be hear in 2-3 days .

ludicristSS
07-03-2006, 04:09 PM
B/c we are all grown men ont this forum and internet forum arguing is childish I will drop it however I will retract my statement about the other company thing. Good luck with your buisiness. I will remove those posts. Hey if I hear good things from people I might give you a try it looks like other people are willing to so I will as well. After all we are all freinds on this site my bad, just had a bad day at work might of taken it out on you which is my bad. Where cool any in the future just ask . I will ask you to take down your negitive post so people don't have to sort it out .

ludicristSS
07-03-2006, 04:10 PM
interested in seeing what you can do, i have the intense stage 3 tune but this check engine light for thelean code is crap, i'll be waiting to see what you got
I can promise you no more CE light unless you change something after we send you a tune .

DWK5150
07-03-2006, 05:19 PM
What do you use to tune if you dont use HP Tuners ?

ludicristSS
07-03-2006, 06:00 PM
What do you use to tune if you dont use HP Tuners ? Lyndon Wester Develop's his own software.This way he can change anything nolimits. Just like he has done for the 4.2 in the trailblazer/envoy/raineer he was tuning them for two yrs before anyone else, 6.5 diesel,Duramax .

97cavie24ls
07-03-2006, 09:24 PM
funny thing about the dealers , they are all tied into the same network

so any GM dealer can pull up any work done to your car by your VIN# , NO MATTER WHAT DEALER DID THE SERVICE WORK , so if they had questions to what was done to a pcm , and they see the cran learn and no pcm repair , and being that it was a cash deal and no warranty that will throw a MAJOR flag that something was done

i worked for chevy , i know they can pull up

and what difference does it make if , you , hp tuners , Westers Garage / Vector motorsports / Fast chips / Lavernois /SLP , do some tweaking on the pcm , the dealer usually cant see anything done to alter the programing from any company , i dont see what makes your special ?

granted if the dealer reflashes the pcm for any reason , all that work is gone , atleast with something like hp you can reload your last saved file , and not be with out the car for days or weeks

and i did look at your stuff , big deal you ask a few questions about location , weather changes daily everywhere

i know alot of gtp guys that tune their own pcm's , and they actually have several tunes saved for weather condidtions , and street use and track use

since hp has been around along time there is alot of dyno shops that are fimilar with their set up , and used to tuning , so tuning a 4cyl isnt much differnet , yeah you gotta do stuff slightly different , but the principal is all the same



as i said i dont doubt your tuning knowledge , but tuning each car is different

my personal feelings its best to tune the pcm in the area the car lives in

there is a big reason why alot of places that sell pre-programed pcms have droped prices way down , they know they cant tune 100% of what is needed and programs like hp's are alot better given people take the time to learn and use them properly

zinner
07-03-2006, 10:19 PM
Do you have a custom OS for the LSJ or do you just edit the parameters of the stock OS?

ludicristSS
07-05-2006, 05:46 PM
Do you have a custom OS for the LSJ or do you just edit the parameters of the stock OS?
We edit the parameters of the stock OS. I can't see a reason to do it another way .

ludicristSS
07-05-2006, 05:55 PM
funny thing about the dealers , they are all tied into the same network

so any GM dealer can pull up any work done to your car by your VIN# , NO MATTER WHAT DEALER DID THE SERVICE WORK , so if they had questions to what was done to a pcm , and they see the cran learn and no pcm repair , and being that it was a cash deal and no warranty that will throw a MAJOR flag that something was done

i worked for chevy , i know they can pull up

and what difference does it make if , you , hp tuners , Westers Garage / Vector motorsports / Fast chips / Lavernois /SLP , do some tweaking on the pcm , the dealer usually cant see anything done to alter the programing from any company , i dont see what makes your special ?

granted if the dealer reflashes the pcm for any reason , all that work is gone , atleast with something like hp you can reload your last saved file , and not be with out the car for days or weeks

and i did look at your stuff , big deal you ask a few questions about location , weather changes daily everywhere

i know alot of gtp guys that tune their own pcm's , and they actually have several tunes saved for weather condidtions , and street use and track use

since hp has been around along time there is alot of dyno shops that are fimilar with their set up , and used to tuning , so tuning a 4cyl isnt much differnet , yeah you gotta do stuff slightly different , but the principal is all the same



as i said i dont doubt your tuning knowledge , but tuning each car is different

my personal feelings its best to tune the pcm in the area the car lives in

there is a big reason why alot of places that sell pre-programed pcms have droped prices way down , they know they cant tune 100% of what is needed and programs like hp's are alot better given people take the time to learn and use them properlyThis is your opinion and I'm ok with it. But what differance will a motor see in terms of location other then temp/humidity/baro/altitude ? You worked for chevy as a tech ? If so you saying you would document a crank relearn on a solstice or H2 ? I think not . I realy can see your point If your going to tune it you self .

As far a dropping prices that should indicate how much buisness they are getting and the time it has taken to devleop a tune . [ aside from sales and group buys ]

97cavie24ls
07-06-2006, 04:14 AM
This is your opinion and I'm ok with it. But what differance will a motor see in terms of location other then temp/humidity/baro/altitude ? You worked for chevy as a tech ? If so you saying you would document a crank relearn on a solstice or H2 ? I think not . I realy can see your point If your going to tune it you self .

As far a dropping prices that should indicate how much buisness they are getting and the time it has taken to devleop a tune . [ aside from sales and group buys ]


the crank learn , for a customer , a ticket is written up by the service advisor , and the ticket is given to the tech , the tech does the relearn , flags the ticket (so he gets paid) , then customer gets charged for said repair , then work order gets entered into the system

unless you got a friend that will do it free for you , you gotta remember not everyone has friends in low places , lol


and max performance , cant be done with a general program , that is the bottom line of what im saying

you might beable to get say 230hp outta a car infornt of you , then using the same program in similar/same modded car 1000 miles away , might only get 223hp , while 1 2000 miles might see 233

ludicristSS
07-06-2006, 02:04 PM
the crank learn , for a customer , a ticket is written up by the service advisor , and the ticket is given to the tech , the tech does the relearn , flags the ticket (so he gets paid) , then customer gets charged for said repair , then work order gets entered into the system

unless you got a friend that will do it free for you , you gotta remember not everyone has friends in low places , lol


and max performance , cant be done with a general program , that is the bottom line of what im saying

you might beable to get say 230hp outta a car infornt of you , then using the same program in similar/same modded car 1000 miles away , might only get 223hp , while 1 2000 miles might see 233 I do hear ya .

Smokem10
07-06-2006, 03:15 PM
Does this include the 04-06 Saturn Ion RL......since we are basically the same car????

ludicristSS
07-06-2006, 08:50 PM
Does this include the 04-06 Saturn Ion RL......since we are basically the same car????
You would think so but the 04 RL is different but the 05-06 should be fine I'll double check and let you know .

ludicristSS
07-13-2006, 04:14 PM
We will be ready to do local live tunes on 7/20 or you can ship you ecm direct to us

DTM2188
07-13-2006, 06:39 PM
Do you have Saturday hours? I want to see when I can get to your shop.

ludicristSS
07-14-2006, 01:48 PM
Do you have Saturday hours? I want to see when I can get to your shop.Saturday the Dyno is rented throught the summer . It's a mobile unit that goes from show to show on the weekends . I would be able to stay late and do it after 5pm at the Dyno . It's located near Atco Dragway .

firesting
07-14-2006, 03:03 PM
Just a quick question...

I want to get GM Stage 2, AEM CAI & GMPP Catback. I'll obviously get stage 2 and the catback first, and then install the CAI. Once all done, or even before I install the CAI, think it'd be possible if I drive down and you guys install the intake and at the same time tune everything for me? :) Let me know! I'll be coming from Montreal hehe

DTM2188
07-14-2006, 07:49 PM
Saturday the Dyno is rented throught the summer . It's a mobile unit that goes from show to show on the weekends . I would be able to stay late and do it after 5pm at the Dyno . It's located near Atco Dragway .

Would you be able to tune my car and dyno it then some time soon around Atco? I'm only 15 mins. from there and that would be much easier. I could even do week nightes then, I get done work around 6.

DTM2188
07-16-2006, 11:28 AM
Also, are you able to tune Dpdge trucks? My brother may be interested.

ludicristSS
07-25-2006, 01:19 PM
Also, are you able to tune Dpdge trucks? My brother may be interested.Once I'm done with the Turbo kit for my TB SS I will be ready to get you on the Dyno it's only 5 minutes from Atco . Dodge trucks I'm would like to think soon . We have a CAI and Catback for it .

mastoer
07-25-2006, 01:36 PM
what about the people on the west coast please tell me yall have a shop out this way or are going to get one...damn i wished i live n e where except so. cali sometimes, because the dealers out here wont even do a install of any gm stage kit...due to cali emisson laws

Allshot
07-25-2006, 01:52 PM
I Believe the stage 2 is smog legal so they are a bunch of bullshitters. You get a smog exempt sticker in the kit.

srt-killer
07-25-2006, 01:57 PM
Once I'm done with the Turbo kit for my TB SS I will be ready to get you on the Dyno it's only 5 minutes from Atco . Dodge trucks I'm would like to think soon . We have a CAI and Catback for it .When are you guys going to post some dyno's of at least a stock ss/sc. so every one can see what you guys can do. Im still gathering the rest of the money to order pcm from you. I had talk to you on the phone a few weeks ago.

Area47
04-03-2007, 12:22 AM
I wasn't going to post on here, but something needs to be said.

i have used westers tunes before, i have delt with matt on many many countles occasions. he has helped me more then anyone else in the LS4 world.

give you a little back ground on myself, and my experiences. being the experimental person that i am and going about ways that others thought were a bad idea, or something i have done research on and found that to many followers have traveled down a bad path. i am not that guy to be followed. sure call me crazy, call me what you will. bottom line is, i didn't have a 400+ hp grand prix GXP by sitting around and watching someone else do it. Matt was there to help me with little things, to get the tune close to where i wanted it, and i went off from there to tweak it in my own way. he was the only one who was willing to take a chance and talk to me about things, about how the tunes worked, what did what, what something would do to a car. i had half of the ls4 world at my heels trying to see what i would do next. i shocked them and jumped ship to the ss/sc world.

now, you might be wondering what the hell does this have to do with tune time. in short. matt was so eager in what i was doing, he would sit and talk with me for time on end about my car, what i could do. beta testing things here and there. if he is willing to work with a stranger from kansas city. i can bet you my car that he is willing to work with someone from here. just as long as you are willing to listen. Him and lyndon will do their best to get things right, if they aren't. they will keep trying, but you must keep in mind that you have to work with them. as in every car is different, some mods on said car will do different "numbers" then another.

will i work with matt and lyndon in the future? damn right i will. will i pick up the phone when matt calls me to shoot the shit? yepo. you help them, they help you. pretty simple concept.

don't bash the vendors. if it wasn't for them, you ALL would be stuck at stage 2, wondering what you could do next. be nice to them, they will be nice to you.


don't worry about me, you will hear enough in the future
:D

1gmfanatik
04-03-2007, 01:13 AM
Holy dead thread Batman..lol.. I guess a welcome is in order since this is your first post.

I do agree about Matt being good peoples and knowing his stuff though. I have been to his shop as well as spoken with him over the phone, numerous times and you can tell that he knows his stuff. Good people, easy to talk to, and knows what's goin down. Not to mention, he backs and FULLY supports ALL the vehicles that he works on. Even though he seems to be quite GM biased, which is damn nice for us. He has numerous TB's, Grand Prix's, and hopefully soon some SS/SC's runnin 12's ALL day long. He is one of my first calls if I have any issues.

Area47
04-03-2007, 12:13 PM
Holy dead thread Batman..lol.. I guess a welcome is in order since this is your first post.

I do agree about Matt being good peoples and knowing his stuff though. I have been to his shop as well as spoken with him over the phone, numerous times and you can tell that he knows his stuff. Good people, easy to talk to, and knows what's goin down. Not to mention, he backs and FULLY supports ALL the vehicles that he works on. Even though he seems to be quite GM biased, which is damn nice for us. He has numerous TB's, Grand Prix's, and hopefully soon some SS/SC's runnin 12's ALL day long. He is one of my first calls if I have any issues.

you won't see me posting that much unless it is really needed. not 100% biased, just more well versed in gm's then anything else. we talk about gm stuff, then get drifted off into nissan stuff here and there, and various other cars.

DTM2188
04-03-2007, 08:50 PM
I'm hoping to be one of those "12 sec. SS/SC's" Andy!

Welcome to the site Area47! And yes TTP is a great place and Matt is a great person to work with and talk with.

1gmfanatik
04-03-2007, 10:26 PM
I'm hoping to be one of those "12 sec. SS/SC's" Andy!

Welcome to the site Area47! And yes TTP is a great place and Matt is a great person to work with and talk with.

I'm hoping that you are too Dan. I'm also hoping to not be too far behind ya. lol...

PuSha050
04-07-2007, 02:17 PM
i agree....(see sig) :D

SSdan
04-07-2007, 03:09 PM
Eh. I'll be one of his as well..But not in the 12's unless im a uber driver, which by recent events we come to the conclusion i am not.

DTM2188
04-07-2007, 05:02 PM
^^^^So true hahahahaha jk.

1gmfanatik
04-07-2007, 06:53 PM
Lmao!!

PuSha050
04-08-2007, 03:44 AM
o i aint even close into the 12;s... jus sayin my opinion of TTP

DTM2188
04-08-2007, 12:07 PM
^^^I'll have to agree 100% with your sig. too!

powerz
04-08-2007, 01:10 PM
just checked out the tunetimeperformance sit it says "Cobalt SS and S/C
Dyno Tune Special
$399" So we can just go there get it done with the dyno run cheaper them sending our ecm to you and have you reflash it with your set up?

eastcoastz
04-08-2007, 01:28 PM
Just give them a call and ask for Matt. Great bunch of guys over there.

DTM2188
04-08-2007, 10:10 PM
just checked out the tunetimeperformance sit it says "Cobalt SS and S/C
Dyno Tune Special
$399" So we can just go there get it done with the dyno run cheaper them sending our ecm to you and have you reflash it with your set up?

I'm not sure what the "mail-in tune" costs, but it would be much more beneficial for you to go directly them to them I would think, especially since your not that far. I mean the mail in tuning will work great as well as long as you make sure that you don't forget to provide all the information that they need and that you yourself do get on a dyno to see if it needs to be tweaked at all for maximum performance. But like said above, call up Matt at TTP and he'll guide you in the right direction for sure.

Area47
04-10-2007, 09:32 PM
just checked out the tunetimeperformance sit it says "Cobalt SS and S/C
Dyno Tune Special
$399" So we can just go there get it done with the dyno run cheaper them sending our ecm to you and have you reflash it with your set up?


your best best is to e-mail him. or call, which ever you prefer.