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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 04:50 PM
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LFP Cobra HE...somewhat installed...PICS

Here are just a couple pics that I took while working on making brackets earlier today. It was actually a little more difficult custom making all this than I thought but will be worth it. The only problem I am running into right now is how to get some support on the lower area of that huge HE to keep it strong and steady but keeping it simple and still fast for installs.

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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 06:47 PM
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why dont you just make it a top mount and paint sti on it?
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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Sempher55
why dont you just make it a top mount and paint sti on it?
hmmm....sarcasm? Whats the point of a top mount anyways? The point is to get airflow directly on the HE to cool the IC coolant.

If you're being sarcastic then there is no point. Everyone takes the cheap way out of gettiing a stock cobra HE...nothing bad with it. but this is what Cobras upgrade to. The company is LFP and they specialize in Cobras and Lightnings, etc and they are now making their way into the LSJ market. They have a HE coming out for the cobalt that is smaller and an Ice Box for the Cobalt and RL.
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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 07:18 PM
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looks good
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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 07:55 PM
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Very curious to see how the IAT2's are effected . Looking great so far
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Old Jul 22, 2006 | 08:44 PM
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Any loss of water pressure?

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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 02:08 AM
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i like the way it looks. should see decent drops in temp. can t wait to see what the cobalts gonna look like.
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 04:06 AM
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Only thing that concerns me is that it covers so much of the rad, sure your S/C temps may drop but what about engine temps? Think they might go up?
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by JMAc88
Only thing that concerns me is that it covers so much of the rad, sure your S/C temps may drop but what about engine temps? Think they might go up?

yeah there are some questions with this mod. mainly like how can anyone know for sure that it works or not, if you don' have a scan device of some type to see what your temps are before and after.

someone posted inthe redline forums about how it is so much better, but they had no idea what the actual numbers were before.

and this is not to knock on anyone becuase i love the ingenuity, but you can't do something like bolt on a header, dyno at 350whp and claim the header gives you 27whp if you don't have a baseline.
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 10:33 AM
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We need an HE that says SS. Looks good.

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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by CTCOBALTSSS
We need an HE that says SS.
They have one coming out for the cobalts, might be a different size though, but this place will make a stencil for it to say whatever you want on the front and color too.
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 12:25 PM
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That looks great, i will be ordering the he, and icebox when they become available.
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by vandy0419
They have one coming out for the cobalts, might be a different size though, but this place will make a stencil for it to say whatever you want on the front and color too.

Yes the H/E for the cobalt is in the Beta stage with me being the Beta tester. I have to measure a couple more things for Mark at LFP and then I will recieve the ice box and the H/E. Mine will either say "SS", "COBALT SS", or "SUPERCHARGED". Not sure yet.
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 06noscobaltss
Yes the H/E for the cobalt is in the Beta stage with me being the Beta tester. I have to measure a couple more things for Mark at LFP and then I will recieve the ice box and the H/E. Mine will either say "SS", "COBALT SS", or "SUPERCHARGED". Not sure yet.
Awesome! Hola fellow LFP tester

When will you get the HE? The only problem I have found is that the HE I received requires a 3/4" hose when out cars use 5/8" hosing for the IC system. For the actual production ones they will switch the nipple to 5/8" for easier set up...also finding support for the lower portion of the HE...I have tons of support designed for the upper part and the bracket wraps around the entire HE, but I don't want the HE to be suspended from only the top...just trying to find a place to plant the lower brackets for the HE...
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by vandy0419
Awesome! Hola fellow LFP tester

When will you get the HE? The only problem I have found is that the HE I received requires a 3/4" hose when out cars use 5/8" hosing for the IC system. For the actual production ones they will switch the nipple to 5/8" for easier set up...also finding support for the lower portion of the HE...I have tons of support designed for the upper part and the bracket wraps around the entire HE, but I don't want the HE to be suspended from only the top...just trying to find a place to plant the lower brackets for the HE...

Right now I have the 5/8 just because im running two stock HE. I have it supported at the top and the bottom. Depending on the brackets they make and if he still wants me to design one Ill have to start looking again. I cant wait to have this HE, and Ice-box and finally hook up my Water-Meth injection! Then all I need is a fatty custom tune!
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 06noscobaltss
Right now I have the 5/8 just because im running two stock HE. I have it supported at the top and the bottom. Depending on the brackets they make and if he still wants me to design one Ill have to start looking again. I cant wait to have this HE, and Ice-box and finally hook up my Water-Meth injection! Then all I need is a fatty custom tune!
That would be an insane tune you can do with all that timing...also, there is chill charger from DEI...stuff is supposed to drop the IAT2 20-30 degrees and it is $9.97 with free shipping right now. I got 3 bottles to mix in with the dex-cool when the HE and Ice Box get installed.
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by vandy0419
That would be an insane tune you can do with all that timing...also, there is chill charger from DEI...stuff is supposed to drop the IAT2 20-30 degrees and it is $9.97 with free shipping right now. I got 3 bottles to mix in with the dex-cool when the HE and Ice Box get installed.
Right now Im running Royal purple's Purple Ice in my Radiator and my 2 H/E's! Def dropped the IAT2 about 24 degrees! It was 15 bucks but put about half in my radiator and half in the H/E's! But I still cant wait for the ice box and the HE get here!!
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by JMAc88
Only thing that concerns me is that it covers so much of the rad, sure your S/C temps may drop but what about engine temps? Think they might go up?
The radiator gets most of its air from under the car . It should have no effect at all . Take off the lower black plastic wind deflector under the front bumper and youll see what I mean
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 04:32 PM
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I hope you have a way to check IAT2 and IC coolant temps before and after the install. I would really like to see what gains there are.
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Cobalt_Supercharged
I hope you have a way to check IAT2 and IC coolant temps before and after the install. I would really like to see what gains there are.
Yeah, I have an interceptor gauge...but there is no way of monitoring the temp of the coolant...but that temp doesn't really matter. My plan is do it all on one day when I record and report the numbers...that way same temps, humidity, etc. I plan on going on the highway and driving hard for a half hour and just city driving for a little bit as well.

Then fill up the HE, connect the hoses and make sure there is the proper amount of coolant. Then go do the same amount of driving and see what the temp drops are.
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 04:48 PM
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I look forward to it. Thanks.

Do you intend to replace the stock HE with LFP HE, or have the coolant run through the stock HE and then the LFP HE?
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 05:09 PM
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He said in another thread that this will be run inline with the stock HE .

After doing the back to back , and if u can find some where secluded enuff . You should throw some ice in that box and go do some WOT runs with and without the ice . It'd be pretty pointless to test the ice driving around town .
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 07:41 PM
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The radiator gets most of its air from under the car . It should have no effect at all . Take off the lower black plastic wind deflector under the front bumper and youll see what I mean
Cool thx
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Old Jul 23, 2006 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by vandy0419
They have one coming out for the cobalts, might be a different size though, but this place will make a stencil for it to say whatever you want on the front and color too.
That's what i'm talking about. Thanks for the info bro.
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Old Jul 29, 2006 | 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by selfinfliction
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Someone posted in the Redline forums about how it is so much better, but they had no idea what the actual numbers were before.

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That would be me. I run a stock Cobra heat exchanger mounted in front with a screen in front of it for protection. It is plumbed after the factory exchanger. I have about 3/4 gallon 50/50 Dex/water with Water Wetter mixed per the instructions in there.

No Interceptor yet but all I can say is the performance gain is huge at any temperature 75 to 100+ degrees outside temp. Vandy knows what I have and how it works. No question that it works awesome. DocSS also knows about my install. It is plumbed with 3/4" heater hose from Home Depot.

I am building a slightly under 1 gallon (202.5ci) aluminum coolant tank for the car right now. It should be done in a few days. This is just a tank with a small filler opening but it will be screwed to the aluminum bumper which will act like a big heatsink for the tank. Internally it is designed to circulate the coolant in a circular pattern before it exit's the tank.

Some have asked about airflow blockage. Our cars are bottom breather's like someone else said. I actually can see a couple needle widths, on the factory temp gauge, lower in operating temps. Gas mileage went up about 3 MPG with this exchanger. I figure that is from the ignition advance going higher because of the ECU measuring a lower IAT-2 temp. It didn't happen instantly but the ECU learned that it could possibly run more timing advance with less KR than the factory cooker exchanger, and the mileage went up after a couple fuel tanks ran through. I run 92 octane gas exclusively. Stock plugs, stock inlet tubing & filter. There is 3700 miles on the car as of today. I run a 3" pulley. Altitude is 920'.

Don't know what else to say other than it works. The larger exchanger's can only work better but I had $65.00 to spend and this is what I did with it.

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