Im very interested in Nitrous on the SS/SC. i have been researching it a good while now. and have had some small experience with how it works and installations on a friends mustang.

but as i have never run nitrous myself, let alone on my own new car....im watching with curiosity at how the bottle is going on your ss/sc's


from what ive seen so far the results look very promising.
my real question though, is who has been running the bottle for a while.....
how many bottles have you run through your engine?
have you had any problems?
Does the engine seem as strong now as it did when you first sprayed?

Mostly im interested to see how our engines are standing up to the bottle over time.

thanks in advance for any input.

ive run 1 20lb bottle through my car, still going strong ;)

1 more positive note for nitrous.

the stage 3 GM kit is including a 55 shot on stock internals.


hmmmmm I like the look of that.

anyone else have input?

ive run 1 20lb bottle through my car, still going strong ;)
What size shot are you useing?

A buddy of mine soccer... has NOS on his ride. He seems to like it a lot. Said it gives him a 7 - 10 mph increase when he sprays.

55, im going to bump it up to a 75 i think.

1 more positive note for nitrous.

the stage 3 GM kit is including a 55 shot on stock internals.


hmmmmm I like the look of that.

anyone else have input?

woah woah woah there haus, where did you hear that the stage 3 is gonna have a 55 shot on it ?? i've heard news of stg3 kit but not any info more than that...

I"ll be running a 50 or 75 shot in a few weeks..... come on 12's

if a 55 shot is a fact then it makes you wounder how much ponies the LSJ can take b4 you actually need internal work.

I"m tryin to find that out.....

I can not see GM including this with the stage 3 and if they do they will not warrenty the stage3 then

"Hello. No part number or pricing info is available, yet. Everything will probably be available next month. It'll include a 72mm pulley, 2-pass intercooler end plate, and the off-road PCM. The PCM includes a user-adjustible rev limit, a 100 octane spark curve, and a control algorithm for a 55 shot of Nitrous. It's not specific to the brand of Nitrous, but it is specific for a 55 shot.

The kit is "off-road use only." We have not gone through the expensive and long process of having it government emissions tested and validated (as well as some other validations). Technically, the kit is not street legal. Would it pass you local emissions testing??? Probably, but we don't guarantee it. Note that the kit also voids your warranty."

make of it what you will.

"Hello. No part number or pricing info is available, yet. Everything will probably be available next month. It'll include a 72mm pulley, 2-pass intercooler end plate, and the off-road PCM. The PCM includes a user-adjustible rev limit, a 100 octane spark curve, and a control algorithm for a 55 shot of Nitrous. It's not specific to the brand of Nitrous, but it is specific for a 55 shot.

The kit is "off-road use only." We have not gone through the expensive and long process of having it government emissions tested and validated (as well as some other validations). Technically, the kit is not street legal. Would it pass you local emissions testing??? Probably, but we don't guarantee it. Note that the kit also voids your warranty."

make of it what you will.

o shit wow, i guess i'll definitely stick to stg2 then if i get my cobalt

The guys who are spraying with wet kits, i hope you guys are spraying after the blower.

Met a guy with a SS/SC who had a custom direct port 100HP hit! He had that, intake, downpipe and 3" exhaust <custom maybe>. Crazy thing is, he is on his 3rd 10LB bottle. Just thought I'd share!

I am spraying 75 before the blower. I might drill and tap the intake manifold, but for now putting it in the intake is less permanant.

1 bottle at 50
1/2 a bottle at 75.

Why dont u get that thing intense sells, it allows the SC to be mounted 1/2 inch higher. Its like a metal gasket and u can tap after the blower.

Why dont u get that thing intense sells, it allows the SC to be mounted 1/2 inch higher. Its like a metal gasket and u can tap after the blower.

Cause if I spent that 150 bux I can get another nozzle and some t fittings and do a dual 110 HP shot on the intake manifold.

The guys who are spraying with wet kits, i hope you guys are spraying after the blower.
Why would you hope that. This has already been discussed a hundred times before, the nitrous and fuel don't hert the blower.

Why would you hope that. This has already been discussed a hundred times before, the nitrous and fuel don't hert the blower.


No need to rehash this again. I am gonna do what I want, and others can do what they want.

Im with you ^^^. Im runing mine before the blower.

thanks for the input guys.

Hey zinner, how "temporary" is your kit? could you yank it for any serious warruntee work if you needed to and be undetected?

Why would you hope that. This has already been discussed a hundred times before, the nitrous and fuel don't hert the blower.

I hope you're right...

I honestly thought that I saw something about the fuel deteriating the blades.

I met a guy with scratches on his SC rotors, rust spots, and tiny missing pieces. He's got an intake, 2.85 pulley, exhaust and downpipe. He is on his 3rd bottle <50hp before blower>. I saw that shit with my own eyes. Trust me, even though he is on his 3rd tranny and 5 stock clutches. He has been spraying for 3 bottles now. Trust me when I tell you, he pushes that car hard! Thus the increased wear and tear on his 2004 Redline. But thats what your blower will look like in a couple years, believe it! Do it right and do it after the blower, next time I see him Ill beg him to pull the intake and yank the SC so I can take pics <I doubt he will go for that>.

thanks for the input guys.

Hey zinner, how "temporary" is your kit? could you yank it for any serious warruntee work if you needed to and be undetected?

Not really.

I have 3 holes in my dash, I have a hole in my trunk for the blow down tube, and the nitrous line.

If you looked you would see something was installed.

If I blew it up I would just fix it myself and not try to commit fraud. It would be a great excuse for an engine build up. I seriously doubt a 50 shot is going to blow anything up, damage the blower maybe in time. I haven't seen any real proof, just lots of posts with claims...

I will be removing my blower at some point to plumb the nozzle in the intake manifold, I will report back then.

I met a guy with scratches on his SC rotors, rust spots, and tiny missing pieces. He's got an intake, 2.85 pulley, exhaust and downpipe. He is on his 3rd bottle <50hp before blower>. I saw that shit with my own eyes. Trust me, even though he is on his 3rd tranny and 5 stock clutches. He has been spraying for 3 bottles now. Trust me when I tell you, he pushes that car hard! Thus the increased wear and tear on his 2004 Redline. But thats what your blower will look like in a couple years, believe it! Do it right and do it after the blower, next time I see him Ill beg him to pull the intake and yank the SC so I can take pics <I doubt he will go for that>.

Jesus...

That's exactly what I was thinking.

Not really.

I have 3 holes in my dash, I have a hole in my trunk for the blow down tube, and the nitrous line.

If you looked you would see something was installed.

If I blew it up I would just fix it myself and not try to commit fraud. It would be a great excuse for an engine build up. I seriously doubt a 50 shot is going to blow anything up, damage the blower maybe in time. I haven't seen any real proof, just lots of posts with claims...

I will be removing my blower at some point to plumb the nozzle in the intake manifold, I will report back then.


yeah i agree. a 50 shot is pretty tame for the most part. a good solid install and A/F monitoring should keep everything pretty safe and tidy.


And yes i have seen alot of gnashing of teeth, but no proof about the blower damage.

from what Ive heard/read the epoxy coatings on our blowers should be fine... but why doesn't someone just email eaton and get a real answer.... f that... I'm gonna e-mail em now and finally find out.

oh well their product support rep is on vac... I"ll call them direct tomorrow.

oh well their product support rep is on vac... I"ll call them direct tomorrow.

yeah let us know.

I would have done the same but I don't care that much lol

damn i want some

IMO a wet nitrous shot is going to decrease the life of the M62 but I don't think it's going to cause catastrophic failure.

i am very interested in using a wet set ip on my SS/SC here in the next month or so but am worried about damaging the SC unit. can some onE post up A LINK to the intense SPACER we all speak of.

Its on intense website under gaskets and hardware

http://www.intense-racing.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/LSJ_SCG_300.jpg

im on my 4th 20lb bottle, and 1 10 lb bottle, still going strong, plugs look good too, im bumping up to a 75 shot in a couple days (had to order the pills) ive been eating bolt on LS1's on the spray.

About how do you guys think it will be for someone to install a system in the car?

anyone car to show pics of how they have there intake tapped? i understand if no one want to, but there is isn't to may shop in my area that are familiar w/ the ss/sc let alone spraying one. thanks

oh well their product support rep is on vac... I"ll call them direct tomorrow.

Any luck on that bro?

55, im going to bump it up to a 75 i think.

Going to 75 will require some timing to be pulled.

I have zex kit. 50 runs with stock ok, 75 gets you some knock retard.
I have copper plugs gapped at .40

im surprised no one has a dyno sheet of a modded ss/sc on the bottle.
im certain some of you sneaky buggers are up around the 300 mark.

For you guys that are spraying your SS/SC's, how much boost and timing are you seeing too? Does anyone have any dyno sheets or track times with the spray?

im on my 4th 20lb bottle, and 1 10 lb bottle, still going strong, plugs look good too, im bumping up to a 75 shot in a couple days (had to order the pills) ive been eating bolt on LS1's on the spray.

U R FOS!

no im not FOS i have vids bud ;)
for your viewing pleasure
http://www.baycityrides.com/files/Cobaltvscorvette.wmv
im still waiting on the vid of me racing a 320 whp LS1 Z28 dynod on a dynojett by livernois performance ;) they taped from the Z28 and hes being stuborn about giving me the video because he was butt hurt about loosing. the only thing i have lost to was a 540 rwhp LS2 GTO

haha look at this guy, Don's becoming a cannibal ;)

Tony I think there's more to it than you're seeing as far as the blower wear.

no im not FOS i have vids bud ;)
for your viewing pleasure
http://www.baycityrides.com/files/Cobaltvscorvette.wmv
im still waiting on the vid of me racing a 320 whp LS1 Z28 dynod on a dynojett by livernois performance ;) they taped from the Z28 and hes being stuborn about giving me the video because he was butt hurt about loosing. the only thing i have lost to was a 540 rwhp LS2 GTO
Damn, watching that makes me think about spray as my next mod. That is a strong car.

my bottle in the back isnt held in by bottle brackets so it moves a bit back in the trunk (i built my own kit) so every now and then i will loose feed due to the bottle tipping over. i just ordered my 75 shot pills (finaly) .021 and .041 ;) and the 175 shot pills for my 2nd stage on my camaro :) (makes for a total of 300hp shot :p)

^^^ Are you insane, hahaha. Don't be cheap and buy some bracket for that shit.

im currently building a custom sub enclosure that the bottle hides inbetween the subs in a hidden chamber. i have brackets but i dont want to bolt them in the back.

This ain't my SS /sc but here is a pic of a meth kit installed into the intake manifold. Could you use the same install point for Nitrous?

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m301/M88ArRamadi/IMG_0001.jpg

if i were to go the ZEX route (wet kit) were in the engine bay is the fuel line that i need to tap into.. do you have a pic also what color is the TPS wire?

This ain't my SS /sc but here is a pic of a meth kit installed into the intake manifold. Could you use the same install point for Nitrous?

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m301/M88ArRamadi/IMG_0001.jpg

Bump for a very good question. I don't see why not but I could be wrong.

Looks like I"ll be goin with a 50 wet shot myself.. hopefully this thing holds togeth until I re-do the motor in the winter

This ain't my SS /sc but here is a pic of a meth kit installed into the intake manifold. Could you use the same install point for Nitrous?

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m301/M88ArRamadi/IMG_0001.jpg

I'd be weary of that, you need to make sure you have equal distribution between all cylinders. if you're going as far as to take that off, might as well plumb for direct port and call it a day.

put my 75 shot in, hits clean and HARD! i went to autolite 22's (1 step colder) and its not missing or bucking, car is hitting 14 1/2 psi while spraying (im stock pullied) i cant wait to get the 2.8 pully :)

no im not FOS i have vids bud ;)
for your viewing pleasure
http://www.baycityrides.com/files/Cobaltvscorvette.wmv
im still waiting on the vid of me racing a 320 whp LS1 Z28 dynod on a dynojett by livernois performance ;) they taped from the Z28 and hes being stuborn about giving me the video because he was butt hurt about loosing. the only thing i have lost to was a 540 rwhp LS2 GTO

LOL stock SS/SC/with 50 shot? that would make your wheel hp about 250. sorry, but NO! LT1 maybe.

My friend just laid down about 250whp with just a pulley, Intake and injectors. in his SS cobalt.

LOL stock SS/SC/with 50 shot? that would make your wheel hp about 250. sorry, but NO! LT1 maybe.

You mean 215 + 50 = 265? Most stock ss/sc are around 215 wheel hp

also don't forget that a "50 shot" is just an estimate of HP...just because u have a 50 shot in there doesn't mean you're putting down 50 more HP...could be more, could be less...

Ninja is right. Depends largely on bottle pressure. Low pressure 75 shot will most likely be a 55 shotish, since less nitrous is coming out.

But its a good estimate i suppose. Dyno will tell the truth.

This ain't my SS /sc but here is a pic of a meth kit installed into the intake manifold. Could you use the same install point for Nitrous?

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m301/M88ArRamadi/IMG_0001.jpg

that would work minty use a nos soft plumn nozzle and your set.

Is anyone using the GM stage 3 yet? Was wondering how the nitrous setup worked on that

anyone find out if the spray eats at the blower?

so far no... and I"m installing (hopefully) a stg III PCM on friday

well, if you need help on anything, PM me and i will do what i can to help ya find the answer cause i want to know really badly too. lolz

anyone find out if the spray eats at the blower?

lol yeah when you ask GM's Race Team they laugh about it. their more concerned about spraying a wet shot through the blower and breaking the fuel+nitrous bonds during compression than the coating. with a dry shot and stage 3 you guys are going to be fine.