Ok, apparently some on here didn't like the title of the last post, so I changed it to cause less confusion

Here is a recent article offering two points of view. As you read you'll see they are VERY different points of view (my opinion: The first guy is insane!)

http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl.../60719008/1004

 

first guy is an obvious moron...is he joking ? yea the GTI is a good car and very well may be faster than the cobalt but the civic si ? go kill yourself..

 

A certain amount of bias is expected in reviewing, but that first guy is flat out so obviously an import enthusiast.

and its pretty unprofessional to be so obviously biased.

"the supercharger doesnt add very much power"




ummm yea Ok.

Put the crackpipe down sir.

 

THis guy drove it around one block with out opening it up. once he got it over 4000 rpm then he would have to retype his whole article. the second guy who works with him must of enjoyed calling him out.

 

thats sorta weird to read, my brother with a v8 GT mustang drove my car and couldnt get over how powerful it felt...umm...this guy is weird.

 

That second guy saved Autoweeks credibility.

I don't think the first guy knows how to downshift the damn thing. Why is the SS rated much faster than the Si, and I have never seen a new Si get below the 15's at the track. Not to say they can't, but we can run 14's all day back to back. Even when I mess up I've still gotten a 14.9 at 100mph.

I bet the Si is fun to drive, and it's another car that is tuner worthy. Can the GTI really be that cool? I guess I haven't looked into them much.

 

Yeah, full power enrichment kicks in around 4800 rpms, and my car has 100 less HP at 4000 rpms than it does at 7000. That might make a difference. Atleast he admitted that he didn't really get on the throttle. But then why write a review of it, if you are comparing a car you didn't top out to ones you did? Or how about how ours can go 150mph and still have a gear to spare.

 

i sent him a nice email telling him lightly how much of an idiot he is

pfloraday@crain.com

 

Emailed him also... what a moron! Those magazines are so IMPORT biased... it isn't even funny! I will admit the Si's a nice car but it is hard on the eyes!

 

also emailed. what a tool!!!! guess honda paid a lot for the reviews.......

 

Welcome to owning an American car. Few automotive journalist will give the Cobalt a fair test because they get paid not to, and because it is highly fashionable to rip on America.

 

thats what im saying what a dummie

 

I would completely agree if by "hard or the eyes" you meant "Mother of god, this car's so ugly, I want to claw my eyes out!"

The new Civics, while they have nice power, are seriously one of the ugliest cars in the segment today. Now with the new Civic and the Dodge Caliber, is there a new trend in automotive styling to try and make compact cars as ugly as possible?! Every time I see one of those cars on the road, I throw up in my mouth!

 

His quote: You’d have to be insane to buy the Cobalt.

"Like, yeah, dude..."

Since when does autoweek employ teenagers to write car reviews?! That is by far the most unprofesional review I have seen in a looooong time!

 

That first guy clearly has issues. He needs to check himself into a mental hospital.

 

Jackass... I should invite him for a spin in my car and see what he says about lack of power.

 

+1. I don't even read car magazines anymore. Car and Driver, Motor Trend, Autoweek-they're all the same. It's like that for all american cars, unfortunately.

 

that first guy needs to be drug out into the street and beaten or something. how can anyone who reviews car FOR A LIVING say that the supercharger doesnt add any power. this guy is clearly a moron. the ss is putting out 205 at the wheels while the SI i would guess is putting out around 170-180. im glad the second guy had something better to say. why is it that american cars get such a bad rap.

 

most performance cars do that. its called overdrive, nothing special. my shitbox can hit 105 in 4th.

 

SI's are a joke! and the GTI is just as fast as the cobalt but not faster from my experience

 

at least the SS's are top of the heap. the GTI always has its big brother the R32(R36 if were lucky this time) that could pick on him. i do like the gti's better tho. and im more interested in that sidebar with the new tundra spied... 5.7l 350hp motor. knew theyde come out swinging

 

heres his response to the email i sent...

Mike,

Thanks for reading my thoughts and taking the time to respond.

First off, I'd like to say I did indeed drive the car. I also drove a Civic Si and the Volkswagen GTI, though I did not drive the three back to back. I would also like to point out that I had more notes on the car than were printed. I particularly wanted a phrase in there saying I didn't think the SS was a bad car, but that it was not as good as the Si or GTI to me. You can tell what got left out when the magazine went to press.

There are certainly compromises with each of the three cars that I mentioned. The Si is the cheapest car and I think it offers the best gearbox and chassis. The SS is in the middle of the road price-wise and it has by far the most torque and possibly the best seats if you opt for Recaros. The GTI costs the most and has the utility of the hatchback and what I consider to be the best combo of engine and transmission, so long as it has the optional DSG.

I know the SS has tons more torque than either the GTI or Si, but that made it a bit less fun to drive. I didn't need to downshift and floor it to make quick passes in traffic or fly though a turn. The SS had enough torque that acceleration was adequate without the downshift. This isn't a bad thing, but it meant I never felt the need to run the engine up to redline since there was always enough midrange grunt. With the Si or GTI you need to downshift, but the engine feels much happier to rev. I personally enjoy that kind of powerplant in this class of car. This is only my opinion though.

I know you guys love to jump on my case and say I must hate GM and I am an import dork, but in point of fact I have never owned a foreign car. I did own a Honda CBR motorcycle, but I don't think that means I have a bias towards Honda. Currently there are 3 GM vehicles parked at our house. I would love to say that the SS is as great as you and the other members of cobaltss.net think, but to me the Si is a more driver oriented car. That said, I'm glad you enjoy your SS and I hope it gives you years of joy.

Thanks,

Phil

 

omfg


read this. 3 times. slowly
ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I dont know what to say to that.




so do you really mean, when you get home and put a fatass fartcan on it, downshifting will make your Pimp azz ride sound Wikked SzICk n ShyT?


wow.

Rice it up big fella..

on a side note. this puppy is going in my Sig.

 

i know with equal drivers the cobalt is the fastest/quickest but the gti feels faster because it deff has the better torque curve. peak torque and hp goes to the cobalt tho

 

guys what other car beside a gm have you driven

(think outside the box)