Got my Black SS finally! Drove it for 115kms. Shuts off. Then it just turns over with blue smoke and a Sulphur smell. Brought it back to the dealer, looks like a cat problem. Needless to say I am not pleased. The Dealer told me it will be on the ramp first thing tomorrow morning. I will check in with him tomorrow and let you guys know what the problem was. My dealer asked if me if I wanted to back out because of this...HAHA. I said "Hell no!" I've been waiting forever. Not gonna let this get in the way.

Just wondering if anyone else has had or heard of this problem?

Thanks

 

First I've heard of anything like this, but if I were you, I would of taken advantage of the situation, see if I could get a little more off the selling price or maybe talk him into free tint or something.

 

Perhaps the car had some bad gas??

They usually fill the car up for you when you pick it up from the dealer - theres a chance that the individual responsible for this task went and got some cheap, watered down gas

Sorry to hear about your problem, hopefully its something minor and your car will be back on the road soon

 

Called my dealer this morning. He said that the problem was 2 fouled plugs on my SS. Of course, they don't have them in stock so I have to wait until tomorrow before they can replace them and get my car back to me. My question is, why did the plugs get fouled in the first place? I guess we'll wait and see if it does it again. Maybe it was bad plugs right from the factory.

I love driving this car, when I get to drive it...haha

 

blue smoke usually means burning oil. Sounds like a bad case of blow-by. My guess would be bad valve seals (which means a lot of others are going to have the same trouble) like the V-6 Saturn cars had. (My sister being one of them)


Once in the cylinder, the oil is forced past the rings by the boost pressure. Once a path is established, the motor needs to come apart and be rebuilt or you will lose power as cylinder pressure will push past the cylinder instead of turning your crankshaft. It will probably be a bad oil burner as well.

If the dealer is going to let you walk away from this particular car, I would do so.

 

Well the plugs being foul means your running to rich. I think it's weird that two of them fouled and the other two didn't as well. I am not a fuel injection expert but I would think if two of them were foul that they should all be fouled. That means two injectors are putting in more gas than needed.

Hell it's weird that they fouled at all, with fuel injection your plugs should be good for 100,000 miles.

 

excess fuel is one of the possible causes for fouled plugs. Can come about from leaky injectors or spark problems, but the blue smoke just screams oil in the cylinder. Oil will foul plugs in a heartbeat.

 

Asked my dealer if they filled it with 91 Octane when they delievered the car to me. No, they put regular 87 Octane in it. He also that this may have caused it to run rich and foul the plugs. Does that sound right to you guys?

 

No that wouldn't do it.

The car can run on 87 octane it's just the computer in the car reduces the power the engine produces.

 

yeah, either your dealer is stupid, or they are lying to you. Neither choice is very appealing.

 

why??
if the problem continues, its covered under the lemon law, can you say new car with a hell of a discount???

my parents bought an 04 caravan and the tranny died like 3 times, lemon law came into affect
the dealer gave em a crazy deal (im talkin no extra cost) on a rendezvous to avoid a lawsuit

 

Ok......if his car is truly messed up and he has the opportunity to switch it for another one right now, why not do it?

Why go through the hassle of having the car in the shop time after time and then hope the final outcome is to get a new car? He has an offer <essentially> for that right now.

What if the outcome is 3 months downtime in the first 6 months and the 'solution' is for the dealer to install a new short block?

Not sure how a Dodge dealer (Caravan) came to have a Buick Rendezvous unless it was used, but beyond that, the lemon law calls for the manufacturer to buy back the vehicle once it is proven that it qualifies for the lemon law and they only have to pay for the current value of it. Meaning they can charge you for the miles you put on it. You don't get a new car for free.

So....go through a bunch of hassles on a car that may or may not be badly damaged in the hopes that there might be a buy-back someday that will allow the owner to nearly get a new car or get one now.

Not a hard choice.

Your parents experience is not typical, I am assuming you have all the facts, but you may want to check the details to make sure you do have the entire story.

 

Turns out that the problem was that one of the wires going to injector #2 was rubbing againt an AC vent and caused that cylinder to misfire. They replaced the harness, tied it away from the vent and boom. It's alive!

Can't wait to drive it now...haha

 

Drive it like it's stolen

 

My freind got a new Jeep Liberty when they first came out and his had a TON of electrical problems. He had to get a lawyer and sue the dealer to get it bought back. Pursuing a lemon law case is no easy matter and you have to pay for a lawyer. In the end you may get a new car but you still have to pay for the legal fees, ect.

 

the dealer also sold buicks and pontiacs, i was surprised as you to see them selling dodge there, as well

and if he had a choice to turn in his car for a new one, it would be a different story, but he didnt, so we can eliminate that option

 

nice good thing u got it back, and ur ok, hope u have fun with it.

 

Well, I am glad it seems that I was wrong, but if the dealer was going to let him back out of the deal, he gets his money back and could very well choose to buy another CSS, maybe even get a better deal with GMS.

Important thing is that he is happy with his car and that is what counts.

 

the 2.0 supercharged is built by Opel in Germany, and the reliability sucks that bad??
My friend's new BMW 530i SE had a similar problem, drinks oil a lot and very noisy. He returned it and got a new one for a thousand more. I think you should do the same, because your's has blue smoke, means probably the delivery guy really thrashed the car for an endured time. The ring is cracked and oil is leaked into combustion, the mechanic said it's the plugs just to calm you down. The guy at BMW told my friend the exact same thing, but my friend doesn't really know about cars. But luckily he exchanged for another one.
I mean an engine having blue smoke signals the end of its life, I can't believe that can happen to a new car. The delivery guy really maxed the engine for a long time or did lots of burnouts.

German cars have bad reliability.

Is the New York Built 2.2 ecotec even worse reliability or better?