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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 12:14 AM
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Stg 2 Vs Stock Cobalt??

So here's the deal my 2 buddys went out and raced. one had a stg 2 kit on his Cobalt and one stock. the stg 2 pulled 3 cars on the stock car. This race was from a STOP to 120
We thought maybe it was the stg 2 driver so i took it out and i got 3 1/2 cars by 120. its getting about 15 psi and feels strong but i would think it should pull more! he raced a stock srt from a stop and SHE missed secound with the srt-4 and still won by 3 cars. whats the deal with the stg 2?
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 12:17 AM
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You shouldnt expect more then 3 car lead with stage 2. A three car lead is a pretty big gap.
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 12:19 AM
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A stock srt4? Something doesn't sound right with that.
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 12:21 AM
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has any stg 2 owners run any stock cobalts? im a current srt-4 owner my self i also love the cobalt. (no i wasnt sayin the stock srt beat him cuz i own one) so please dont rip on me i here for him! he spent 1200 installed and thats alot i think for only 3 cars! you guys are sayin in other post that a stock cobalt vs a stock srt is a good race but there was no race for me i got him by 1 1/2 bus (again im NOT trying to start a bashing thread) is there a possibility his car his messin up? he dont have any cel light's. ohhh and another guy with a ss around here said his really woke up at 13,000 mile's. Does the cobalt need alot of time for learning? or just him?
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 12:31 AM
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if you guys need any vids just let me know i can record what ever.
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 12:32 AM
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the stage 2 car should grab himself some 1 step colder plugs since he is pushing more boost. Also 3 car legths is quite a gap. what kinda increase were you guys expecting? This isn't magic we are making here.
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 12:34 AM
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me and forced induction raced he is stock while i have stage 2 and 3-4 car lengths isnt much but its still a win....i dont understand where this is going....what are you looking to get outta stage 2, half a mile length .
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 12:35 AM
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Ahhh more like 4 or 5! And he onlys gets him out to 2 gear then he couldt pull anymore he just stayed there.
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 12:41 AM
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Ahhh more like 4 or 5!
your expecting too much. like i said this isn't magic. the stage 2 vs the stock car is obviously faster in any situation that is the point of the mod.
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 12:44 AM
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its not like stock cobalt is a sloutch lol
stage 2 can get about 2-4 cars on a stock sssc which isnt bad.
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 12:45 AM
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but what if somebody wants something like this?
http://www.bolt.com/417supra/video/5...eo_large_PAGE1

should i use stage 103?
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 12:46 AM
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From MY experience I used to put about 5 cars on stock LSJ's with my stock SRT-4. So with everything you said, that sounds about right. 30 whp isnt going to beat 03 Cobra's contrary to what some cobalt owners believe.
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 12:48 AM
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Holy **** that was fast. Thats like stage 2000
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 12:53 AM
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lol yes it is...and to pork...its gonna take pretty much the fastest cobalt on here to walk a terminator cobra. I don't think any cobalt owners expect to take on a 390hp beast of a machine with stage 2.
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 12:58 AM
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so your telling me that no one on this board thinks they can take the snake.
Not sure if he is on this board, but chances are that he is and he regrets everyday that the video is on the internet.
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...65d9aa0ff8.htm
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 02:45 AM
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me and my cousin have stock vehicles. His is a stock srt 4 04 with 20,000 and mines a stock ss 06 with 9000 and we are dead even from a roll til like high mphs and he starts to pull.

SRT 4 have more top end but ss/sc hang pretty well, i mean stock to stock at the track its a good race , seeing that the race ends around 94-99 mphs
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 02:47 AM
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so your telling me that no one on this board thinks they can take the snake.
Not sure if he is on this board, but chances are that he is and he regrets everyday that the video is on the internet.
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...65d9aa0ff8.htm
What are you trying to do start ****. The last thing we need is this debate again.
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by pOrk
From MY experience I used to put about 5 cars on stock LSJ's with my stock SRT-4. So with everything you said, that sounds about right. 30 whp isnt going to beat 03 Cobra's contrary to what some cobalt owners believe.
Someone in the Cobalt couldn't drive then. I was neck and neck with my buddies SRT-4 stock for stock. I got Stage 2 and beat him by a few lenghts, an then he got the the Mopar Stage 1 reflash, AGP wastegate, intake, and TBE and I cannot keep up now.
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 04:11 AM
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Damn I can see where this thread is going.
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Allshot
Damn I can see where this thread is going.
I know I know, I was saying from MY experience, its capitalized for this reason. Oh well, anywho I call BS the cobalt wasn't racing.
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by pOrk
From MY experience I used to put about 5 cars on stock LSJ's with my stock SRT-4. So with everything you said, that sounds about right. 30 whp isnt going to beat 03 Cobra's contrary to what some cobalt owners believe.
factory freak much

From MY experience and SRT4 from a roll has a slight advantage and from a dig it shoudl have more of advantage but 2 of 3 srt4s i raced stock were newb drivers.
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 11:07 AM
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factory freak much

From MY experience and SRT4 from a roll has a slight advantage and from a dig it shoudl have more of advantage but 2 of 3 srt4s i raced stock were newb drivers.
well it did boost to 16/17 stock, so maybe hell with just a stage 1 pcm and thats it, I dynoed 224 whp and 263 wtq, so it probably was some kind of freak.
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 11:41 AM
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you have to realize that if you put two people in very similar cars like a stock ss/sc or even one with a stage two or an srt-4 its really a drivers race to an extent. not just two weeks ago i raced a friend of mines ss/sc with a stage 2, intake, and catback exhuast, from a dig i put maybe three carlengths on him up to 110,when we raced from a forty roll to 110 he only put half a car length on me, i also raced my friends srt-4 with just an intake from a dig and a roll i took him by about two car lengths it has a lot to do with the driver
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by dwilss
you have to realize that if you put two people in very similar cars like a stock ss/sc or even one with a stage two or an srt-4 its really a drivers race to an extent. not just two weeks ago i raced a friend of mines ss/sc with a stage 2, intake, and catback exhuast, from a dig i put maybe three carlengths on him up to 110,when we raced from a forty roll to 110 he only put half a car length on me, i also raced my friends srt-4 with just an intake from a dig and a roll i took him by about two car lengths it has a lot to do with the driver
I know I know, this conversation like everyone is saying has been done over like 10 times, equal drivers in both cars and the SRT-4 wins by 3 or 4 lengths. That is what I think and that is all I am going to say about it, I hope.
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by pOrk
From MY experience I used to put about 5 cars on stock LSJ's with my stock SRT-4. So with everything you said, that sounds about right. 30 whp isnt going to beat 03 Cobra's contrary to what some cobalt owners believe.
A stock SRT-4 putting 5 lengths on a stock LSJ? A big fat BS!!! What were running low 13s stock? NOT!!!
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