View Full Version : Civic Vs SS Shoot Out


StinkBOMB
09-12-2006, 04:46 PM
Here's the details, courtesy of an 8thCivic forum member, Nox.

Let me be the first to suggest a Cobalt vs Civic shootout. Kinda like the evo vs sti shootouts. We could do it in the spring, that would give everyone time to get ready.

The location will be determined by the participants. Wherever the heaviest concentration is, we will probably be in that region. Looks like central and east are leading candidates as of now.

Initial date would be April 13 & 14. However that is flexible based on participant schedules and track availibility.

Friday night cruise in at a local Hooters or similair. Saturday afternoon time trials. Saturday night racing. We will also be holding an open car show. Any make any model. Classes to be determined based on entries.

We also need a race field of minimum 16, to a maximum of 32 cars. Single elimination.

1. One power adder
2. Must drive car from home to event - no trailering
3. DOT street slicks
4. Track to be determined by location of participants and track availibility.
5. Heads up - First to finish line wins, single elimnation.
6. Brackets set by cars and qualifying times. ie...civics vs cobalts...ladders set by qualifying times.


I am sure we would add other rules along the way.

Sign ups? Anybody? Please do not sign up if you have no real interest.

1. StinkBOMB
2. CTCOBALTSSS
3. 06blackg85ss
4. GTP
5. WSFrazier
6. djt81185(RedLine)
7. Killer Nutz
8. No Remorse(RedLine)
9. Splink
10. WickedSS2005
11. vandy0419
12. jaydd73

CTCOBALTSSS
09-12-2006, 04:50 PM
You know i'm in bro. :guns:

06blackg85ss
09-12-2006, 04:57 PM
I'm down... haven't had my fill of rice in a while

BLKSS
09-12-2006, 04:58 PM
I joined and posted my interest. Problem is, they will make the location lightyears away from me and I wont be able to compete. Anyways im out, see you guys in the morning.

joeworkstoohard
09-12-2006, 05:00 PM
i'd run... but i've got a 2.4 that has yet to see track duty

Cobalt_SSTuner
09-12-2006, 05:00 PM
I'd be up for it, but all I really got done performance wise is a CAI

Waylin22
09-12-2006, 05:01 PM
Better kick some ass guys!!! wish i could be there :( 1 of them on the site said that it should be an RSX-S vs. SI match. Then BLU-BY-U said the following :
an rsx-s vs. si event would be more popular and alot more fun since all the cars would actually be running.

:cussing: :cussing:

g5mike
09-12-2006, 05:02 PM
Ill take them in my work truck:lol:

GTP
09-12-2006, 05:06 PM
Include me ....what are we talking about autocross? Track day? Drag? Flashlight drags?

snvowles
09-12-2006, 05:09 PM
I bet this thread will get locked :lock:

Waylin22
09-12-2006, 05:10 PM
Seriously....They really think there N/A civics can take our cars..fags. They hate cuz its simply a car they cant afford. I dont hate ferrari's or there drivers simply because i cant afford one!! lol. SOMEONE POST THIS LINK ON THE FORUM LOL

http://videos.streetfire.net/hottestvideos/2/1EBFE097-2D10-4061-947D-C63BF05DFC58.htm

Waylin22
09-12-2006, 05:10 PM
Sorry...my post is childish..but it makes me mad :(

joeworkstoohard
09-12-2006, 05:12 PM
Include me ....what are we talking about autocross? Track day? Drag? Flashlight drags?


in an autocross or track day, a 2.4 will lose.

silverSS
09-12-2006, 05:16 PM
better hope the boosted civics dont show ;)

Cobalt443
09-12-2006, 05:17 PM
Is it Cobalt only? I'll take out 4 plugs I swear....lol

06blackg85ss
09-12-2006, 05:18 PM
AHH unless they're done right .... I've taken out a few turbo civics with a whopping 6psi turbo kit they were running.... so much shit talked... and I just walked em.

CTCOBALTSSS
09-12-2006, 05:19 PM
better hope the boosted civics dont show ;)


http://justblowme.com/images/smilies/boogie.gif

StinkBOMB
09-12-2006, 05:19 PM
Seriously....They really think there N/A civics can take our cars..fags. They hate cuz its simply a car they cant afford. I dont hate ferrari's or there drivers simply because i cant afford one!! lol. SOMEONE POST THIS LINK ON THE FORUM LOL

http://videos.streetfire.net/hottestvideos/2/1EBFE097-2D10-4061-947D-C63BF05DFC58.htm

Please don't post links to another site. That's why these threads keep getting locked. We make our Honda Moderator mad with stuff like that.

WSFrazier
09-12-2006, 05:23 PM
I'd love to join in on this if it isn't too far.

StinkBOMB
09-12-2006, 05:27 PM
Looks like the tentative date is April 13 & 14.

WSFrazier
09-12-2006, 05:30 PM
Little far away. I guarantee no one will even remember this in a month... if that.

CTCOBALTSSS
09-12-2006, 05:30 PM
Looks like the tentative date is April 13 & 14.

Where. If it's more than 100 miles away i'm obviously not going to make it you know. Drive 200 miles just to hand an SI it's ass is not worth it. I have done it locally twice already. Kind of a waste of gas but I like putting them in their place.

vandy0419
09-12-2006, 05:31 PM
Looks like the tentative date is April 13 & 14.

Really? Oh that is craptastic! Hello $3k additional in mods I'll have done then, ha ha ha ha ha ha

SS4ME
09-12-2006, 05:32 PM
Better kick some ass guys!!! wish i could be there :( 1 of them on the site said that it should be an RSX-S vs. SI match. Then BLU-BY-U said the following :
an rsx-s vs. si event would be more popular and alot more fun since all the cars would actually be running.

:cussing: :cussing:

You need to lay off BLU BY U. He had pics. post up with him and his car a while back. I think he has Down Syndrome?!

vandy0419
09-12-2006, 05:32 PM
Where. If it's more than 100 miles away i'm obviously not going to make it you know. Drive 200 miles just to hand an SI it's ass is not worth it. I have done it locally twice already. Kind of a waste of gas but I like putting them in their place.

Unless someone makes it an official LSJ National Meet that weekend too!

StinkBOMB
09-12-2006, 05:33 PM
I've added all the people with Cobalts that showed interest if I missed you just say "hey dumby, you missed me" and I'll post you up.

vandy0419
09-12-2006, 05:33 PM
You need to lay off BLU BY U. He had pics. post up with him and his car a while back. I think he has Down Syndrome?!

Dude, now that is fucked up! 100%! :cussing:

StinkBOMB
09-12-2006, 05:34 PM
Dude, now that is fucked up! 100%! :cussing:

In a funny way or or fucked up in a serious fucked up way?

vandy0419
09-12-2006, 05:36 PM
In a funny way or or fucked up in a serious fucked up way?

In a truely fucked up way. I don't like people making fun of those with disorders. Looking it is pushing it. Saying something like, "Dude that was retarded" is no big deal. My mom is a guidance counselor at a school and growing up I'd go there and spend time with her and she worked with them all the time.

Waylin22
09-12-2006, 05:45 PM
I think fucked up in a serious way stinkbomb lol. Sorry for the bad post earlier as well.

StinkBOMB
09-12-2006, 05:50 PM
I think fucked up in a serious way stinkbomb lol. Sorry for the bad post earlier as well.

NP dude.

Waylin22
09-12-2006, 06:54 PM
I guess my post goes hand in hand as to why i bought my car to begin with. MOST people hate our cars and say they are slow. Im here to prove them wrong!!!

KillerNutz
09-13-2006, 11:43 AM
I'm down! Lets do this, I think it will be a good time! If we can stay civil between now and then, I think this has a chance of happening. Lets hope it works out so we can represent our cars and what they can do.

06blackg85ss
09-13-2006, 11:45 AM
nice... my car should be completly finished by then..... should be down in the 11-10 sec 1/4 range (doin motor and a lot more... stay tuned)

Waylin22
09-13-2006, 11:51 AM
DAMNIT I WISH I COULD GO!!! GRRRRR I could always go piss off some ricers here then start a new challenge? lol

Allshot
09-13-2006, 12:00 PM
Man im down... If you guys want to come to california :lol:

06blackg85ss
09-13-2006, 12:01 PM
only if those girls from you sig are gonna be there

BLKSS
09-13-2006, 12:12 PM
only if those girls from you sig are gonna be there

Hell yea.

GTP
09-13-2006, 12:15 PM
in an autocross or track day, a 2.4 will lose.


Are you kidding me!?...We'll see about that. Autocross is about torque and handling...G stock Civic Sis get owned by Mini Coopers and we out torque them all day long. I have no doubts (with the right drivers) in a PRO solo2 format the SS 2.4 will beat on the Sis. Same at a track day. Just go to my other home www.sccaforums.com and search under 2.4 Cobalt SS for road racing results...the 2.4SS was so fast the mini drivers were assembling a protest to slow it down.

LittleStealthSS
09-13-2006, 03:10 PM
I would not hesitate to say that the 2.4 is a car to be reckoned with. I've been beaten at the strip by a Silver 4-door... And there is a tuned 2.4SS coupe around my way that is one fast SOB.

Just because they're N/A don't make them slugs.

djt81185
09-13-2006, 03:13 PM
if its 1/4 im there...norwalk is a awesome track

BradyB
09-13-2006, 03:16 PM
My budy has a 570 FWHP Civic and I have my Stage II car, how about a UT event?

StinkBOMB
09-13-2006, 03:17 PM
Are you kidding me!?...We'll see about that. Autocross is about torque and handling...G stock Civic Sis get owned by Mini Coopers and we out torque them all day long. I have no doubts (with the right drivers) in a PRO solo2 format the SS 2.4 will beat on the Sis. Same at a track day. Just go to my other home www.sccaforums.com and search under 2.4 Cobalt SS for road racing results...the 2.4SS was so fast the mini drivers were assembling a protest to slow it down.

If we didn't have you there GTP, we'd be at a loss. Don't mind the mindless people. Bring that thing all the way down, to funky town! ;)

BLKSS
09-13-2006, 03:19 PM
If we didn't have you there GTP, we'd be at a loss. Don't mind the mindless people. Bring that thing all the way down, to funky town! ;)

Werd!

roccityroller
09-13-2006, 03:25 PM
i might make the trip down if anyone wants to cruise from NY, i'll bring the video camera and we can make a video of the day.

djt81185
09-13-2006, 03:26 PM
Well be in schoo then u retard lol youll be in MI

roccityroller
09-13-2006, 03:28 PM
alright, then if dan goes i'll ride down with him and the video camera.

StinkBOMB
09-13-2006, 11:11 PM
It's heating up guys. They're trying to get media coverage of some type on this event. Everyone who said they were interested go check out their thread on their forum. I wont' link to it for obvious reasons.

g5mike
09-13-2006, 11:17 PM
If we didn't have you there GTP, we'd be at a loss. Don't mind the mindless people. Bring that thing all the way down, to funky town! ;)
Its to bad GTP because we all know you can get it done your number 1;)

StinkBOMB
09-13-2006, 11:19 PM
It doesn't look like the Civic guys are screwing around so I don't plan on screwing around either. Deployment or base shuffling may take me out of this running but I hope not.

g5mike
09-13-2006, 11:23 PM
Some of you guys should add a 75 shot for the novelty of it

StinkBOMB
09-13-2006, 11:29 PM
First post updated, check it out and then who ever wants to go post a reply.

StinkBOMB
09-13-2006, 11:39 PM
DOC, I'm calling you and the VA boys out. This is a big deal and we need skilled drivers. Please draw their attention to this if you don't mind and see what they think.

StinkBOMB
09-14-2006, 11:31 AM
Bump, everyone check out the first post and repost if you're interested.

06blackg85ss
09-14-2006, 11:35 AM
Im heading out to atco sunday to see what the cars running with my current setup up... keep you guys posted.... but hopefully by january the motor should be finished along with some other stuff I'm not at liberty to discuss right now.... but I should be down in the 10's if all goes well by then...

KillerNutz
09-14-2006, 11:38 AM
This is definitely picking up steam! I am excited for this! We need to get the same interest here that there getting over there. This is far enough out, that Everyone should be able to get time off, and get some money saved up to do this!

StinkBOMB
09-14-2006, 11:39 AM
Im heading out to atco sunday to see what the cars running with my current setup up... keep you guys posted.... but hopefully by january the motor should be finished along with some other stuff I'm not at liberty to discuss right now.... but I should be down in the 10's if all goes well by then...

I think everyone doing this should get an aftermarket clutch and new axles. Dot Slicks are gonna hook up like nothing a stock Cobalt will ever see. I'm guessing my axles would snap if I were to hook up right now.

06blackg85ss
09-14-2006, 11:41 AM
My axles and clutch and flywheel should be installed next week so thats covered (fx400 6puck and fidanze flywheel)

NoRemorse
09-14-2006, 11:46 AM
Well be in schoo then u retard lol youll be in MI
dude, I'll convoy with ya

splink
09-14-2006, 11:47 AM
once a location is figured out ill let you know for sure but im interested. by april i hope to have some toys on the cobalt. i see some other pittsburgh guys are interested, we'll have a convoy:cssNET:

StinkBOMB
09-14-2006, 11:49 AM
Hey Dan, what state is the Norwalk strip located?

djt81185
09-14-2006, 11:53 AM
Norwalk, OH right off the turnpike

Waylin22
09-14-2006, 11:55 AM
do you guys think this event will really happen by next spring. Why not make it 1 month from now?? seems like the ricers just want the xtra time

djt81185
09-14-2006, 11:56 AM
cause since they are hondas they will have 15 turbo kits out by then
they'll need it tho

StinkBOMB
09-14-2006, 11:57 AM
Yes they do, but I need the time as well. If I go slap Slicks on my car right now I'm sure I won't be making it down the track. I need time to get more money, do more mods and practice a bit more.

NoRemorse
09-14-2006, 11:59 AM
Yes they do, but I need the time as well. If I go slap Slicks on my car right now I'm sure I won't be making it down the track. I need time to get more money, do more mods and practice a bit more.

count me in. By april I will hvae a few more grand thrown into the car.

Dan knows what I am talking about when I say that this is an entire work term of mod money away, so my car will be pretty fats by then

PS)I am assuming you will allow us lowly Redline to come ;)

djt81185
09-14-2006, 12:02 PM
i want 113 traps before i twincharge

Dan

KillerNutz
09-14-2006, 12:07 PM
Yeah, RL's are invited as well. Also, I dont believe this will be at Norwalk. Its sounding like its goin to be out East, Virginia, Carolina, etc... Since it is in April it needs to be somewhere "warmer". If it was at Norwalk, there is a good chance the track could be coverd in snow!

StinkBOMB
09-14-2006, 12:08 PM
You're added to the list NoRemorse. Dan you're in a Redline too right?

NoRemorse
09-14-2006, 12:09 PM
You're added to the list NoRemorse. Dan you're in a Redline too right?
yea, he is

patathSS
09-14-2006, 12:11 PM
I'd be interested but someone really needs to suggest Norwalk, OH. Pest prepped track in April. Good central location for anybody coming from out west.

StinkBOMB
09-14-2006, 12:15 PM
I'll go suggest it right now.

splink
09-14-2006, 12:17 PM
hey dummy, you missed me...

:lol:

StinkBOMB
09-14-2006, 12:21 PM
hey dummy, you missed me...

:lol:

Heh heh, that's what I was looking for. :thumb:

blown06
09-14-2006, 12:26 PM
I know two civics were i live, one is about 600whp turbo single overhead cam, and the other has a b18c type r motor, well an ss/sc got real cocky and my friend with the type r walked him like no other it was pretty bad

StinkBOMB
09-14-2006, 12:29 PM
I know two civics were i live, one is about 600whp turbo single overhead cam, and the other has a b18c type r motor, well an ss/sc got real cocky and my friend with the type r walked him like no other it was pretty bad

Those cars are out there. B18c's are known to produce 13 second Integras with minor work too.

WickedSS2005
09-14-2006, 12:42 PM
I'm down for it. By then I'll be kick ass.

StinkBOMB
09-14-2006, 12:45 PM
You're added.:thumb:

Waylin22
09-14-2006, 01:06 PM
Just curious, anyone at this meet gonna be running the 60# ers and a 2.6?

roccityroller
09-14-2006, 01:06 PM
i want 113 traps before i twincharge

Dan

does that mean we can all line up in front of yellow and wait for rides again?

06TypeS
09-14-2006, 01:08 PM
hey can rsx-s get in this or is it strictly

cobalts and civic?

djt81185
09-14-2006, 01:16 PM
Just curious, anyone at this meet gonna be running the 60# ers and a 2.6?

2.5, 60lbers, 7400rpm redline, street slicks, alky injection, cat delete, maybe header and exhaust and yada yada yada hehehe:guns:

stotte20
09-14-2006, 01:17 PM
man i will defintly come down to this. would love to see that kind of racing. but i will bring my buddie with his 10sec civic just to keep all of us down to earth lol. as we are killing all the other slovics.

StinkBOMB
09-14-2006, 01:18 PM
hey can rsx-s get in this or is it strictly

cobalts and civic?

We're doing Redlines and Cobalts vs the 8th Gen Civic.

StinkBOMB
09-14-2006, 01:18 PM
man i will defintly come down to this. would love to see that kind of racing. but i will bring my buddie with his 10sec civic just to keep all of us down to earth lol. as we are killing all the other slovics.

8th Gen is the competition.

06blackg85ss
09-14-2006, 01:36 PM
2.5 60LBERS.... (might be turbo by then) header, 3" d.p. 3" side exit exhaust, 3" intake, soon to come (in less than a month).... 6 puck fx400 fidanze flywheel, driveshaft shop axels, and patriot performance head w/ eagle studs, cometic gasket, and custom ground cams and bates valve train....

StinkBOMB
09-14-2006, 01:38 PM
2.5 60LBERS.... (might be turbo by then) header, 3" d.p. 3" side exit exhaust, 3" intake, soon to come (in less than a month).... 6 puck fx400 fidanze flywheel, driveshaft shop axels, and patriot performance head w/ eagle studs, cometic gasket, and custom ground cams and bates valve train....

That thing is gonna be nuts. I wish I knew how you afforded it. I might have to start whoring myself out or something.

BLKSS
09-14-2006, 01:41 PM
They seem very friendly ever since we joined their site.. Except for that Blue kid, hes a fucking loser.

StinkBOMB
09-14-2006, 01:44 PM
They seem very friendly ever since we joined their site.. Except for that Blue kid, hes a fucking loser.

Yeah, ever since real competition was mentioned and the E-thugging stopped everyone pretty much put their game faces on. I don't think we're going to just roll over them without a fight.

djt81185
09-14-2006, 01:55 PM
why is this in road racing and auto x forum?

06blackg85ss
09-14-2006, 01:55 PM
That thing is gonna be nuts. I wish I knew how you afforded it. I might have to start whoring myself out or something.

I do all the work myself... plus I've been racing for about 10 yrs now so I do have some connections for parts....
also I just sold my other 3 cars to get this badboy together...
still working on a plan of attack to decide exactly which setup I go with and turbo size and whatnot... but my goal is about 550whp on pump gas reliable daily driven... I've done it with a few other cars... so hopefully this one can take it.

StinkBOMB
09-14-2006, 01:57 PM
why is this in road racing and auto x forum?

We're gonna be doing alot more than just the 1/4 Dan. I could have put it in alot of different places and it would have applied. I couldn't very well post it in a regional spot because we don't where it's taking place yet.

KillerNutz
09-14-2006, 01:57 PM
Tell me what u guys think, I suggested that we throw out the "one power adder" restriction and go to "unlimited" But then we could have 2 classes i.e. 13.49 and under, and 13.50 and over. Please discuss.

StinkBOMB
09-14-2006, 01:58 PM
That's also a bit of a delayed reaction, you've posted on this thread alot to just now catch where it was located.

StinkBOMB
09-14-2006, 02:09 PM
Right next door... we have a track down in southern MD, M.I.R (MD international raceway) AKA Budds Creek. It's a super nice professional track, they always hold I.H.R.A. and N.H.R.A. pro events there. I know there are tons of people from all over VA that come there to race. http://www.mirdrag.com/

What does everyone think of this track?

KillerNutz
09-14-2006, 02:21 PM
I think maybe we should have 2 or 3 tracks to decide from. Depending on price, location, and what the track is offering us.

Waylin22
09-14-2006, 02:26 PM
2.5, 60lbers, 7400rpm redline, street slicks, alky injection, cat delete, maybe header and exhaust and yada yada yada hehehe:guns:


Have fun wiping the track with the hondas!!!:bow:

vandy0419
09-14-2006, 02:27 PM
I'll be bringing a custom intake, 60s, 2.5", 7600 rpm with built valvetrain, downpipe, exhaust manifold, LFP HE, Ice Box with dry ice, 110 octane fuel (I think they supply it there, just have to pay like $5/gal), HP Tuners on laptop, axles, clutch, DOT Slicks, extremely ported blower and TB, and if I'm really really really lucky...maybe I'll have the money together to just swap to a Whipple...oh and forged pistons...

vandy0419
09-14-2006, 02:28 PM
I like the idea of Norfolk...as I stated on 8th civic and RL forums, if we go there a day ahead of time and everyone close to needing axles goes, we'll just go to INTENSE. If you guy the axles from them, they install them for free!!!

06TypeS
09-14-2006, 02:36 PM
We're doing Redlines and Cobalts vs the 8th Gen Civic.


i think if its redlines and cobalts it should be civics and rsx-s both share same motor like the gm's do...

06blackg85ss
09-14-2006, 02:39 PM
not quite type -s put out a little bit more

BLKSS
09-14-2006, 02:43 PM
i think if its redlines and cobalts it should be civics and rsx-s both share same motor like the gm's do...

I agree, the RSX-S should also be included. I am sure there will be some that show up. By the looks of it I think many different cars will try and jump in.

StinkBOMB
09-14-2006, 02:47 PM
If that's what everyone wants. There is a little more difference between an SI and Type S than there is between a Ion Redline and Cobalt SS S/C. But if the concensus is Type S's should be allowed, far be it from me to dispute the majority. Just pop in at the 8thcivic forum and see what they think there.

djt81185
09-14-2006, 02:50 PM
type-s's are nasty with turbos

06TypeS
09-14-2006, 02:50 PM
not quite type -s put out a little bit more

yes a little more but its basically the same...

but i wan't to let u guys no a 05-06 rsx-s with just a c.a.i on a good day can pull off 14.6 ish..

KillerNutz
09-14-2006, 02:53 PM
yes a little more but its basically the same...

but i wan't to let u guys no a 05-06 rsx-s with just a c.a.i on a good day can pull off 14.6 ish..


I've got a feeling that if anyone shows up with "just a c.a.i." they will have very little success at this event.

WSFrazier
09-14-2006, 02:56 PM
Guess I'm not the only one that has good plans for the car by then. Rob is going to be losing his #1 spot it looks like. I look forward to just the competition with the fellow LSJ's let alone the Honda next to me.

06blackg85ss
09-14-2006, 02:56 PM
I agree... just check out my vbgarage to see current mods....
also just found out my C/A header is in so that goes on tomorrow along with my 2.5 pulley... sweet... now just gotta wait for my clutch and axles next week and I can finally use those DR's I have laying around

BLKSS
09-14-2006, 02:57 PM
I've got a feeling that if anyone shows up with "just a c.a.i." they will have very little success at this event.

Indeed. I hope one of them is turbo so that we can Actually have a race worth filming. Then again I wouldnt mind handing a stock one his ass... Appearantly a stock one can beat us by a bus length so he shouldnt have a problem racing a stage 2.

06TypeS
09-14-2006, 02:57 PM
I've got a feeling that if anyone shows up with "just a c.a.i." they will have very little success at this event.

of course they will... i was just saying rsx-s respond very well to bolt on's...

how are they doing it

stock vs stock
modded vs modded?

they should let some lightly modded cars race stock cars..

06TypeS
09-14-2006, 03:00 PM
Indeed. I hope one of them is turbo so that we can Actually have a race worth filming. Then again I wouldnt mind handing a stock one his ass... Appearantly a stock one can beat us by a bus length so he shouldnt have a problem racing a stage 2.


whoever said a stock 8th gen civic can take a stock cobalt ss by a buslength
is stupid and just running there mouth..

i have problems beating my brother sometimes, and ill admit he beats me just as much if not more then i beat him he has a 05 ss s/c black

but yea those guys are just running they won't even show

BLKSS
09-14-2006, 03:04 PM
whoever said a stock 8th gen civic can take a stock cobalt ss by a buslength
is stupid and just running there mouth..

i have problems beating my brother sometimes, and ill admit he beats me just as much if not more then i beat him he has a 05 ss s/c black

but yea those guys are just running they won't even show

I know its just one guy running his mouth and all... Its not fair to shut them all down like that just because of one guys story. Some civic owners just bother me thats all. Im ready to just ignore everything they say.

BUT

If they don't show, wich they probably won't, they will never hear the end of it.

06TypeS
09-14-2006, 03:05 PM
I know its just one guy running his mouth and all... Its not fair to shut them all down like that just because of one guys story. Some civic owners just bother me thats all. Im ready to just ignore everything they say.

BUT

If they don't show, wich they probably won't, they will never hear the end of it.

yes.. where is this event supposed to take place at?

BLKSS
09-14-2006, 03:07 PM
yes.. where is this event supposed to take place at?

Probably as far away from any participant...I think we should choose not them. Il check it out.

06blackg85ss
09-14-2006, 03:18 PM
at this pont I don't care about location... I get 2 weeks paid vacation every year and I gotta use it somehow... but if its more than an 8 hr drive from me... I'm towing the bitch there... fuck what they say... not putting those kinda miles on the car.

06TypeS
09-14-2006, 03:24 PM
at this pont I don't care about location... I get 2 weeks paid vacation every year and I gotta use it somehow... but if its more than an 8 hr drive from me... I'm towing the bitch there... fuck what they say... not putting those kinda miles on the car.

i don't understand why u can't tow ur car there. thats stupid..

NoRemorse
09-14-2006, 03:28 PM
i don't understand why u can't tow ur car there. thats stupid..
I think the point is, it''s a street legal car, not a trailerd race only car.

vandy0419
09-14-2006, 04:19 PM
I think the point is, it''s a street legal car, not a trailerd race only car.

What if we just pamper the car so much that we don't want to drive it?

KillerNutz
09-14-2006, 04:26 PM
I want to trailer it, just in case something lets go while several hours from my house. I need to have a way to get home in that situation.

jaydd73
09-14-2006, 04:27 PM
im in

GTP
09-14-2006, 04:40 PM
I think a great format would be:

Cobalt/SS/Cobalt 2.4ss vs. 8thGen Civic/Si/RSX

Classes should be Forced Induction and Nitros (Open Class)
Bolt On Mods (Modified Class)
Stock Class (no mods other than tires)

Events: MUST COMPETE IN ALL SCHEDULED EVENTS TO WIN CLASS CHAMPIONSHIP

1. Quarter Mile ( 3 PASSES) (best run)
2. Autocross (3 RUNS) (best lap)
3. Track Event (3 laps) (best lap)**

**If the Track event fails to be safe enough...have two events include the fastest 1/8th and then fastest 1/4 miles times.

Followed by two autocrosses: One lap clockwise (fastest lap) 2nd lap counter clockwise on the same course (take fastest lap)+ fastest 1/8 and 1/4 mile times= lowest combined time wins!

This allows easy set up for both events and guarantees an OBJECTIVE winner unlike car shows.

06blackg85ss
09-14-2006, 04:41 PM
sounds good to me

SoloZ/SS
09-14-2006, 05:02 PM
I don't really think changing the direction of the autocross course would do much of anything except see who as a driver can adapt better also only having one run either way would also expose the better drivers. Also what would be the point of having 1/8th mile and 1/4mile drag racing?why not just have 1/4mile if the track is a 1/4 mile?

GTP
09-14-2006, 05:05 PM
I don't really think changing the direction of the autocross course would do much of anything except see who as a driver can adapt better also only having one run either way would also expose the better drivers. Also what would be the point of having 1/8th mile and 1/4mile drag racing?why not just have 1/4mile if the track is a 1/4 mile?

SCCA National Tours always change direction of the course on day two. Been doing that way for years and technically it changes dramatically how to drive it. I am saying 3 runs in each direction.

Including 1/8 mile and quarter mile times not necessary but idea to give 2.2/2.4ss a better chance against the Civics who are gonna run faster quicker quarter mile times.

KillerNutz
09-14-2006, 05:06 PM
OK OK OK - Run what U Brung is obviuosly the consensus, however, you MUST follow the rest of the rules!!

I have no problem with adding RSX's, but I do not wanna see a 99 civic that runs 10's. That is not the purpose of this event. What does everyone think? K20's and LSJ's?


Here's an update. So it looks like Type S's are in!

s2kricer17
09-15-2006, 02:01 AM
count me in on this one...

LiL Sang
09-15-2006, 02:38 AM
i'll bring my F350 TURBO DIESEL!!! lmao

vandy0419
09-15-2006, 08:59 AM
Just to let you guys know...for all the people that want to twincharge, there is a shop that sells Twincharges (RL owner) kit...only thing you guys would have to do is modify the intake piping from the turbo to the s/c in case you wanted to do this before the face off...

djt81185
09-15-2006, 09:10 AM
Vandy...who...RIU is dead

roccityroller
09-15-2006, 09:23 AM
Vandy...who...RIU is dead


speaking of...when are you doing yours?

djt81185
09-15-2006, 10:08 AM
whenever my car is fixed...at this rate...never

roccityroller
09-15-2006, 10:11 AM
wtf did you break now?!

djt81185
09-15-2006, 10:14 AM
same thing thats been broke the past month trans

mken
09-15-2006, 10:18 AM
i'll bring my F350 TURBO DIESEL!!! lmaoI'd love to see you autocross that... :lol:

SoloZ/SS
09-15-2006, 10:19 AM
SCCA National Tours always change direction of the course on day two. Been doing that way for years and technically it changes dramatically how to drive it. I am saying 3 runs in each direction.

Including 1/8 mile and quarter mile times not necessary but idea to give 2.2/2.4ss a better chance against the Civics who are gonna run faster quicker quarter mile times.

Ok so it would be a total of six runs 3 in each direction, I must have missread your 1 lap in each direction comment thats why it didn't make any sence.

StinkBOMB
09-15-2006, 11:02 AM
You obviously don't know much about Honda's..but I do. So let me tell you something. Your puttin down anywhere between 240whp-280whp, and probably running at best low 13's with street tires. A 2200 lb street Civic/CRX/Hatch can run 12's easily with around 200whp. And the launch is soooo much better because the car only has 150ft/lbs tq at best. Unless they are using an H22 block, of course. So don't talk shit when the cars you'd be racing are more than likely faster by a long shot. God help you if a turbo'ed Honda came to the meet. You'd lose, everytime...especially against a B16a Turbo, because the car will be pullin 1.5 60' times. And in drag racing, no one gives a crap if your car can pull hard the last 300 ft of the track...by that time, you've already lost. I like Cobalts, but Cobalt owners have no place for talkin shit against other tuners. I've seen nothing out of the Cobalt that a Honda hasn't already done-->and that includes EVERYTHING. If it's a decent meet, you'll prolly see a few 10 sec. street Honda's. It's not uncommon. Show some respect. And YES, there are NA Honda's that can take a maxed out M62 blown Balt and beat them by lengths. Did you know that an H22 can put out over 250whp with pump gas in NA form? Did you also know that a K20A can put out as much as 275whp on pump gas in NA form? These numbers are better than alot of blown setups running 17psi with all the supporting bolt-ons. Let's not forget that Honda's are geared much lower for a much faster acceleration...which again..is the point to drag racing. Don't talk shit..you have no right to say such things against Honda's. Give the Balt about 5 years of R&D, then you can be disrespectful.

Let me tell you something about this thread, apparently you don't know much about it let me educate you. It's not for you to come in here and start argueing. This is for setting up a track day for a friendly competition with the 8thcivic owners. If you don't like what Waylin said I don't care, pm him. People have paper raced and e-thugged this to death and we're actually going to the track to run it. If you're not here to sign up, then STFU.

06blackg85ss
09-15-2006, 11:09 AM
speaking of gearing... anyone know where to pick up the cobalt 4.45 gearing that they used in the race version....

StinkBOMB
09-15-2006, 11:12 AM
speaking of gearing... anyone know where to pick up the cobalt 4.45 gearing that they used in the race version....

Tom could probably get it. He could get space shuttle parts for the Cobalt. He won't be back at work until Monday I think though.

06blackg85ss
09-15-2006, 11:16 AM
ok keep me posted

StinkBOMB
09-15-2006, 11:19 AM
ok keep me posted

????? Just shoot him an e-mail, he'll read it when he comes in.

rickyw
09-15-2006, 11:24 AM
WERE IS THE EVENT GOING TO TAKE PLACE I SOO WANT TO GO IF I CAN:-D my friend might rent a cobalt for the hell of it so he could have some fun:-D

StinkBOMB
09-15-2006, 11:30 AM
We're waiting on tracks to release their schedules at this point before we decide. We won't get a location until somewhere in the October time frame.

Allshot
09-15-2006, 11:32 AM
I think im banned from that site. It always says the server is busy. It doesnt matter if its 2 in the morning. Damn you civic owners :cussing:

StinkBOMB
09-15-2006, 11:35 AM
I think im banned from that site. It always says the server is busy. It doesnt matter if its 2 in the morning. Damn you civic owners :cussing:

Hah hah, did you wonder too far from our welcome spot? I just stick to that one thread so as to not troll. I ventured on post when they realized that their car has the same EDR system our car does. They were pretty upset that Honda could read their computer and see how often they redline the car.

Allshot
09-15-2006, 11:41 AM
No I just challenged them a couple times

06blackg85ss
09-15-2006, 11:49 AM
????? Just shoot him an e-mail, he'll read it when he comes in.

Which Tom?...

StinkBOMB
09-15-2006, 12:53 PM
CrateEngineDepot. Actually he may be back now. He told me he was going to a car show but I can't remember the dates of the show.

LiL Sang
09-15-2006, 05:08 PM
I'd love to see you autocross that... :lol:

i'll just run over those cones!!! opps my bad! haha