This morning I was coming home from work early. This little black Honda I think, rolls up next to me like he is MR. BIG **** reving his ricer. Show the light goes green and we launch. I lauch soft because I know how the front breaks loose on this car, and he gets a car lead car on me. I grab a stick full of second gear and what happens? THE ******* CLUTCH STARTS SLIPPING! The Tach goes right to to rev limiter and the car is gaining slowly. I slam third and the car lauches forward and now I'm chsaing his ass down and gaining fast. I hit forth gear around 110 and closing. He see the lght turn red up ahead and slams the brakes. At the light we go again. My car lauches hard and out in front. I hit second and the wheels chirp and break loose, but I still pull away. I slam third and start walking on him and he bitches out and hangs u turn on me.

I really am getting fed up with this BULLSHIT clutch problem this car has and the fact that Gm won't fix it because they can not deplicate the problem when I take it to the service departemt and tell them that it is fucked up.

My hats off to the RICER he earn his win tonight, next time he won't be so lucky.

 

Not a GM problem to fix the clutch. Thats a dealer issue. Two separate things altogether.

Better question: Why did GM put a weak clutch in the car? And why do people keep putting stockers back in?

BTW, even if the dealership could duplicate it, they would probably charge you about the same for a weak clutch + install as an independent shop would charge for an aftermarket clutch + install.

 

I have 47k on my stock clutch. I have many many many track passes on that clutch. I have more mods than I have time to name, but yet I have no clutch issue at all. I can get it to slip, but only on mulitple back-to-back runs at the track when it heats up a good bit. That's to be expected. How is the clutch a warranty issue?

 

I also have not had a problem, mine grabs very well, now mind you I do not track it, but I do have Stage II, GMPP Exhaust and The extrude honed manifold, so I am putting down some good power, so far so good! Keeping my fingers crossed!

Jason

 

I agree, I also have 35k miles on my car with over 50 passes at the track, absolutely NO SLIPPAGE!!! Maybe its driver error and not GM error. Why is it always someone else's fault when you dont know how to drive and break stuff?

 

did the check driver light come on when the cluch slipped???
31145 miles on my stock cluch and never slipped once.
I think the check driver light came on when that happened.

 

I did not say it was a warranty issue. GM dealers will not even drop the tranny to look at the clutch whether it is a warranty issue or not unless they can duplicate the problem that the custmor is complaining about. Most dealerships are not in the business of tearing apart cars without confirming that there is actually a problem.

My car has 5106 miles on it. There is no reason why this should happen. It does not happen all the time, but it does appear to be happening more frequently, which is what the tech guy at the dealership said would happen. However he also told me that the dealer will not tear it open until it can be duplicated by the service tech. He told me that these cars where giving a clutch that was not designed to handle the type of power they can put out and that not all of them have this problem. He has replaced the tranny in 2 Cobalts SS cars in the last year. He said that this was really not to bad, considering that the auto trans is the real problem child for Gm right now. He said there a couple of service bullitins for the auto trans, but none for the manuls.

 

I had the check engine light come on once before, but that happened on the freeway. The tranny popped out fifth gear and the tach reved right through the limiter. The car appeared to go into a safe mode where the RPMs only went to like 1800. I had to shut the car off and wait like 5 minutes. When i restarted the car the check engine light was on and the RPMs where normal again.

 

You have alot of mods, thats nice of you to share with us. The clutch is a warranty issue went it slips at 22000km. just to answer your question. The driver error in the other post, go home. Ive never had any problems with mine because i don't race mine, ever. Leaving work yesterday (cold startup) my second would slip all the way up just bogging the **** out of my gear even under wot (****). Hope I can last until next summer or get my dealership to replace it because I WILL reproduce the problem for them no prob. Now I allways feel slip in second and just a little in 3rd.

 

If you aren't saying it's a warranty problem, then why did you name the thread "When is GM going to fix this POS clutch"? The tech guy that you spoke with is wrong about a few things and right about some too. They will not do any repair on the car until they can duplicate the problem. That is totally correct. He is completly wrong about saying that the stock clutch cannot handle the power of these cars. Sorry. Read the posts of your fellow members. No clutch problems unless they were beating on them.

 

well if the check engine light came on when you restarted it you should have popped the hood and checked the engine, but I said did the check DRIVER light come on, it could have been a driver problem or driver era. need to remember this car dose have a hydrolic cluch in it, and just resting your foot on the cluch pedal(not pushing on it, just resting it on the pedal) with maybe the weight of your shoe (1-2lbs.)that translates to like 10-20lbs of force on the cluch it self which can cause slippage, and if done to meny times can cause premature wear and even more slippage expecially if it get's hot from regular driving.
just my $0.02

 

22000km. What is that in mileage? If it's over 12,000 miles than you are on your own unless your dealer wants to goodwill the repair. GM will not cover a wearable item past 12k, and if there is any signs of abuse, then you are stuck with the repair plua diagnosis time.

 

If you could read, you would know that people are having problems. This isin't the only I fried my clutch thread.

 

BLKSS
2 letters for you
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sorry mods, I'm having a bad day, and this makes me feel better!

 

People having problems doesn't mean that GM is having problems with the clutch. I've seen brakes fried by little kids in 6k miles. Rotors shot to all hell and back too. They said how 'crappy' the GM brakes were. GM said they were crappy drivers, and their parents agreed. Not warranty. Besides, if you can only make the clutch slip when racing or at WOT well you are on your own there as well. You can't ask a tech to break the law and endanger his life to duplicate a concern on your car.

 

**** you 2!

 

Just because "a lot" of people are having problems with their clutch doesnt make it a GM problem. It means a lot of people have no clue how to properly drive a manual. I know several people with RL's and SS/SC's with way more power and track runs than I, and they are not having clutch issues eiher. To me it sounds like a YOUR PROBLEM! not GM's

 

^^^agreed!!!!

just messin' with ya!

 

Am I the only one that thinks what he described was that he actually missed second gear? He basically said that in 2 runs it only "slipped" in second gear on 1, and that it just flew straight to the rev limiter, adding that he chirped second on the next run, sounds pretty unlikely that a clutch bad enough to not hold any power (only in one gear as well) on one run could chirp the same gear on the next.

 

It is GM's problem since they are the ones who put up the money for warranty. (Granted they get it payed back to them by the manufacturer who supplied the clutch.)

You are right, though. GM should have know what the demands of the purchasers of this vehicle would be and should have put in a heavy duty clutch.

 

Like I said previously, DRIVER ERROR!

 

Yeah definatley my problem, and it sucks. This is the reason why I never went at the track this summer. Im trying to save money, now this! Grrr

Im just gonna drive it until it dosen't grab anymore.

 

You are not serious, are you? What you are saying is that GM should anticipate every possible modification that people may want to do and then do it for them when they are building the car. C'mon, use some sense. That's what modding is for.

 

Ummm, I am serious. I work with some of the engineers who worked on this car and they did not figure on the clutch being an issue, yet there are problems with the clutch WITH STOCK SS's. They should have realized that this would not be sold to people who take it easy on their vehicle. For pete sake, IT IS AN SS!

I did not say mod the hell out of it from the factory, did I? Didn't think so.

 

I named it that because I want my dealership to fix my car, I never said I wanted them to fix it for free. I am willing to pay them for the service. Just looking inside and tell me if there is a problem. I'LL PAY FOR IT. You would be surprised how many poeple know whether thier car is acting up or not. I personally am very in tune with my vehicles and know if something does not feel right or sound right on one of my cars or trucks I would know.

well if the check engine light came on when you restarted it you should have popped the hood and checked the engine, but I said did the check DRIVER light come on, it could have been a driver problem or driver era. need to remember this car dose have a hydrolic cluch in it, and just resting your foot on the cluch pedal(not pushing on it, just resting it on the pedal) with maybe the weight of your shoe (1-2lbs.)that translates to like 10-20lbs of force on the cluch it self which can cause slippage, and if done to meny times can cause premature wear and even more slippage expecially if it get's hot from regular driving.
just my $0.02

Randy, thanks for info on the hydralic clutch, I did not realize that the mastercylinder was that sensative. I don't usally rest my foot on the clutch, but I will check myself. I have 65 Malibu SS with Stroked small block and 6 speed tranny, so I am used to driving a stick. I will have to say that the clutch on that is a little stiffer then the Cobalt. OH Yeah I read the part about the Driver LIght (Haha) I just chose not acknowledge it.