The 08 Cobalt is already "confirmed" to have a turbo!!! So how much better is the turbo engine compared to the LSJ? I read it only dynos at 235 and a lot of stock Cobalts already dyno at 225 so is it worth waiting for the 08 Cobalt if it is gonna be a turbo so i get a lil more hp but more lag? Im not sure im gonna like the higher insurance and havin to wait for mods to come out.
Btw, yes I used search and read the turbo threads so try not to flame me if thats even possible.

 

The new turbos on the ecotecs don't lag like you would think. They are twin-scroll turbos, so the exhaust makes 2 passes around the turbo before exiting. That makes the lag basically dissapear.

If the new engine is Direct Injected like the GXP/Redline, then that would be a great improvement.

And for those of you who have not seen the new motors on the Solstice and the Sky turbos, they are UGLY as sin. You have this nice looking car until you open your hood, and then it looks as haphazard as a construction vehicle. They could have made it look way better.

They are also supposed to have stronger axles in '08, so let's hope that is another improvement.

 

Am I missing something but when was it confirmed?

I saw a document posted that didn't necessarily say it has a turbocharger, just the code for the motor in the GXP & Sky Redline.

I wouldn't really call anything confirmed till it's publically written from GM instead of "hear say" from an online forum.

 

I've seen it in person and rode in it shotgun, the engine area looked fine to me...never thought anyone would find anything really negative to say about the car lol

Great cars in my opinion but your entitled to yours.

Also, what you said about the turbochargers used...x2

 

i really hope they dont plan on turbo charging the cobalt in 08...if things go right, next year hopefully ill be trading in my crappy cobalt LS for a brand spankin new 08 SS/SC...but ill tell u this, i'll take the supercharger whine as opposed to a BOV anyday..please GM dont replace the whine!!

 

You wouldn't hear the blow off valve...it's a recirculating blow off valve.

 

omg thats even worse...wow, i would end up gettin an 07 then thats for sure..wtf GM u better not do it.

 

how is that even worse? i swear to god, some people are turbo retarded.

 

Well if you're not choosing a car cause you can't "hear" the blow off valve, then you're not picking a turbocharged car for the wrong reasons.

 

u know what? your right.i have no knowledge whatsoever about cars. all i know is that i love them and all im sayin is i would rather have the sound of the sweet ass supercharger whine thats all.if i was smart i wouldve never got the LS to begin with but im not a patient person unfortunately, and i dont know how to drive stick. >.<

 

I think the Supercharger makes our balts unique.... i love the whine, the seamless power.

If the Balt went Turbo.... I'd buy something different.....MAZDASPEED 3 ?

 

Ok so you would buy something different^

Well the MazdaSpeed3 has a Turbo...so I wouldnt all that different

 

well lol depending on how it goes i might just want that 08... if i do you can take my balt over lol... with 2k down payments will only be 330 per month oh and im driving a brand new 07 by the way.

 

honestly i like being the only tuner with a supercharger around town i really dont think gm should make the 08 turbo

 

The only issue I see is having to wait for the aftermarket, again. Is there much you can do with a twin scroll turbo? How easy is DI to tune?

 

the problems with the twin scroll is finding a suitable turbo swap. That and the twin scrolls spool so fast due to it having a tiny scroll to help the spooling and they recirculate boost. The 2nd someone puts a BOV on it you will lag, stutter in between shifts etc. twins are great, but hard to swap. The evo's have a twin and great aftermarket support. We can only imagine the same for the newer balt.

 

Finally someone who isn't so damn pessimistic! I'd still rather get the Saturn though, but engine wise...I'd rather have the new one because the aftermarket world will jump on those a whole lot faster!

 

Ifs its a smaller turbo - there wont be much lag at all . . . .

My srt is spooled up by about 2200 RPM . . . the cobalt guys ive talked to said there Super is spooled up about the same RPM mark -

I actually think the cobalt going turbo would be a good move

 

i agree. the aftermarket will definately support a turbo platform. i think its odd that gm will toss the lsj in just 3 years. i guess they knew that they made a huge mistake. shitty power output, shitty gm stage kits, horrible service stories and the worse tranny ever!

 

if the aftermarket on the supercharged wasnt so bad and expensive id keep it going with my 07 ss/sc... i mean if a new supercharger came out that can significantly increase hp safely id love to do that to my 07.. but with all that said then id need forged pistons,axles,clutch, stronger tranny, mounts etc. and like 6 grand later id finally have like 350hp lol. i love the charger better than a turbo and i do find its unique but cmon gm/vendors we need a dam better aftermarket and still need to be relliable man.

 

what I am saying... the BALT SC package is an excellent bang for the buck....
I really wanted a 4 door.... I know, don't laugh...I like the sleeper aspect of 4 doors as well as the utility aspect.
If the BALT 4dr was available w/ the SC motor I would have bought that.

don't get me wrong.... for me it's all about the $$$$$, and GM gave me 0%
Mazda probably won't offer a wonderful deal like GM did...

but if the small $$$ was no object...and I had to get a turbo, the MAZDASPEED 3 would probably be my choice.

as I orginally said " the supercharger is unique" and I like being different.

 

Turbo aftermarket is MUCH bigger . . .

350hp out of an SRT is pretty cheap . . or you can go the more exspensive Mopar Stage upgrade route (which is what i would probably do) and get about 350 for about 3500 . . .

I really think it would be a good move to go to a turbo . . . .

or be REALLY unique and you guys should do a turbo AND supercharged car . . . super would handle your lower end RPMS . . . then your big 60 trim turbo would handle the 3500+ RPMS (Ive seen this done before . .. and its pretty cool)

 

Forget about turbos spooling up...Lotus has a concept out right now that will never require fuel...all battery core operated...0-60 in 3.9s and at 0rpm it has 190lb/ft!!!! $100,000 car...but depending on upkeep, who knows! Gas costs thousands a year alone.

 

Also understand that mostly everything turbo wise is universal to an extent. If you were to build your own turbo kit, the manifold is just about the only thing motor specific. If you wanted to change your intercooler piping, you could do so with bends and have someone cut and weld them for you if you chose to do that.

The good thing about having a turbo setup is that you don't really need the support for your car as far as turbo system products cause you can make whatever you want or change whatever you want.

 

how many hear can do this? trust me, many need the support. and im sure hp tuners will follow suite and create some software for the car. Making things easier, but again. how many hear can tune? Figure a perfectly sized turbo vs goal? Weld? Work a mandrel?