By popular demand, we have added an ADVANCED Performance Modification section.
Please use it for related discussions only.

If you would like an old thread from a different section moved to the new Advanced section, just post a link here and we will move it for you.

We are open to ideas as who will be able to post in here. Should we require a minimum post count or a minimum registered length of time? Open for discussion till we set it up to assure only advanced members can post here.


have fun

Awsome, thanks guys! :cssNET:

By popular demand, we have added an ADVANCED Performance Modification section.
Please use it for related discussions only.

If you would like an old thread from a different section moved to the new Advanced section, just post a link here and we will move it for you.

We are open to ideas as who will be able to post in here. Should we require a minimum post count or a minimum registered length of time? Open for discussion till we set it up to assure only advanced members can post here.


have fun

does that mean i have to pay to access this section :bye:

That makes me sad.

No you will NOT have to pay.

EVERYONE will be able to read it. As for posting, we just want to keep it advanced and prevent new members from asking the same answered questions in this section.

nice.. thanks

ok, one last thing, i've been a member for like a month or so, why am i a new member still and how do i change that?

Thanks you :)

No I dont think you should have a minimum post count or anything like that . Just keep the bickering and drama out of this forum . Dont try to become part of a discussion unless you have something to offer outside of baseless opinions .

I'm waiting for the 2008 Turbo Thread to make its way over there.

Oh well, glad to see a new section

i think any members wanting to post there should have at least 250 posts, and have been a member for at least 3 months

i've been a member for like a month or so, why am i a new member still and how do i change that?

That is off topic, but the info on user ranks is a sticky in the Site Development and Help section:
http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=44
Fell free to ask further questions in the related topic

So basically, I have to become a post whore in order to post in the "Advanced" section? :wtf:

what exactly will the requirements be to post in here, there might be new people here that have very legitament questions that need to be in this forum but may only have one post..

But by the same token i dont think everyone should be able to post in here

I think it should be 3-6 months and about 500 posts to get in here and also have the ability to invite users to this forum

what exactly will the requirements be to post in here

None, as we just opened this section and are discussing it.
from above:

We are open to ideas as who will be able to post in here. Should we require a minimum post count or a minimum registered length of time? Open for discussion till we set it up to assure only advanced members can post here.

YES!!! I guess my thread and PMs to denny payed off :twothumbs
As for posting, I think someone should be either invited of approved by a mod or the admin. Like people who have a lot of mod, not just intake and exhaust. I'm talkin like guys with 2.5" or 2.6" pulley and have 270+ hp.

I would vote anything under a 2.9 should go here as anything under a 2.9 is suffectiant to blow something up but by the same token some newb with a 2.6 and 60lbers that paid for everybit of their work is no help either

like i was until about 2 months ago i know there was nothing i could have contributed lol

YES!!! I guess my thread and PMs to denny payed off :twothumbs
As for posting, I think someone should be either invited of approved by a mod or the admin. Like people who have a lot of mod, not just intake and exhaust. I'm talkin like guys with 2.5" or 2.6" pulley and have 270+ hp.


That is unattainable for it is not realistic for us to verify everyone’s mods. Besides, people can easily make up what mods they have

make it by invite only then nabr is invite only and one of the best dam performance forums on the internet if not the best by a long shot

YES!!! I guess my thread and PMs to denny payed off :twothumbs
As for posting, I think someone should be either invited of approved by a mod or the admin. Like people who have a lot of mod, not just intake and exhaust. I'm talkin like guys with 2.5" or 2.6" pulley and have 270+ hp.

And sharing this knowledge should only be limited to those who modify Cobalts?

I can understand wanting to limit those who post in here, but let's be realistic. There's more to "advanced performance modifications" than the size of your pulley. ;)

YES!!! I guess my thread and PMs to denny payed off :twothumbs
As for posting, I think someone should be either invited of approved by a mod or the admin. Like people who have a lot of mod, not just intake and exhaust. I'm talkin like guys with 2.5" or 2.6" pulley and have 270+ hp.
there are people who arn't highly modded who no what they are talking about, although they are few and far between.

i think any members wanting to post there should have at least 250 posts, and have been a member for at least 3 months

That theory doesnt work . Alot of people that really know what hell their talking about do not post on the internet much at all .

The forum should be left open and heavily moderated . I think it should be completely fine for someone new to hotrodding to post a legit questions if its outside the scope of the basic bolt ons ....it how you learn . What this forum should be free of though , is people that try to answer questions when they dont know what the hell their talking about , that where the moderators job comes in :) If I start a topic debating ...ssaaaaaay....the benefits of converting to a LT1 maf sensor , if you dont have anything of technical revelence to say ....leave it at the door .

thats why i say let it be invite only, anyone can read but only those with an invite can post

simple answer :)

I meant more like guys who are serious about modding, not just a guy with stage 2 and an intake. I also think being able to post by invite only or by approval is the only way we can keep this forum to just serious questions or information.

thats why i say let it be invite only, anyone can read but only those with an invite can post

simple answer :)
so then post whores will run this section. Be happy he gave us an advanced section and quit trying to make it further fit your likings as it has few posts and no one know it people will be able to keep it serious yet.

EXACTLY SilverSS/SC The problem that we run into currently with threads is people thinking they know what they are talking about, but have no idea about how cars/physics actually work. (i.e. The New Intake Idea Thread)

I think a min. post count could be ok, but then there are people on here who just post whore and never really contribute anything, so why should they get to post? There are probably people on here who have >50 posts, yet are WAY more technically advanced than someone who post whores and has 1000+ posts.

My vote is INVITE ONLY with verification by mod that they know what they are talking about. (EX. PM the mod a thread where the person clearly demonstrates they know what's going on)

You guys are making this too difficult :lol:

I dont agree with the pulley size comment at all . That leaves a guy like me , who is squeezing out every ounce of power out of the stock pulley before I move on , out . Im curious just how far I push the stock pulley , when I hit a wall ....then I'll move on . Theres so many people that threw a ton of mods on their car and never honed what GM gave them to begin to begin with .

Keep it bicker free , and all the same ol same ol same ol same questions outa here and it wil work ;)

I like the idea of the heavy moderation. Just delete all the crap. Anything remotely off-topic, antagonistic, or foolish. No questions asked, just delete.
The problem is, I doubt anyone gets paid to moderate, and it might be a lot of work for someone who is a casual user.

have one moderator dedicated to this section?

Invite only and have a dedicated moderator.

I volenteer for this sections moderator.
EDIT* I'm serious, I get on here pretty much every day so it wouldn't bother me. Also I was the one who made the thread about this problem and sent PMs to denny to get something done about it.

i will to i pmed denn about it

me and blown could do it im a forum whore i read every thread on the board anyway

Then all yellow Cobalt SS/SC owners will control the forums, then before we know it, they'll TAKE OVER THE WORLD!! lol

I think a good medium ground would be for NO members to be allowed to start topics in the advanced section.

Keep all threads in the regular forum, and if a user feels that it belongs in the advanced section, they should add a prefix like "Advanced: Thread title" when they start the thread.

After posting, moderators or popular demand would decide whether it ends up in the new forum or not, and it will be moved and the prefix removed.

This way even brand new users with great ideas can post there.

That seems like a great idea!

i would second that or just post it then report the post and put reason add to advanced please

I'll volunteer to be a mod

I vote for heavy moderation. i rarely post, but i am ASE certified and have built quite a few sub 10 second drag cars, id be pretty mad if i could'nt post on a topic that was worth posting about.

I'll volunteer to be a mod
I'v already volenteered, and contacted Jonel about it.

I'v already volenteered, and contacted Jonel about it.

ok...and...:nono:

I think it should be based on knowledge and experience...not on who volunteers first

Then all yellow Cobalt SS/SC owners will control the forums, then before we know it, they'll TAKE OVER THE WORLD!! lol

How about just all yellow Cobalt owners?! You can't leave us lowly 2.2s out can you? :cssNET:

ok...and...:nono:

I think it should be based on knowledge and experience...not on who volunteers first

Agreed.


I think the idea of having topics MOVED to the advanced section is a good one. It will still need to be heavily moderated but that will at least cut down on extraneous postings some.

Not to offend anyone , but Dan is theee 1st person that came to mind that would be a perfect moderator for this forum . To bad WopOnTour isnt around more , cause would make a great one too .

I dont think you should have to have permission to post either , thats childish to be honest . Its an attept to draw in more tech oriented discussion ......not alienate people with a board of directors :D

Open free forum , with competent moderator . If it can work on countless other sites I dont see why it would be any diff here . ::shrugs::

My time for input. On Honda-tech, they don't have a post count for shit like kill stories/lounge and other off topic parts of the site. They only have posts relevant to helping people with swaps/turbos/all motor builds etc. I think thats why this site should be like. This new section is a great idea, it helps people who actually tune there car to get help. Not the questions that are "Which intake will gimme best hp/sound".

Good Idea, just might be hard to keep the Noobs out.

Not to offend anyone , but Dan is theee 1st person that came to mind that would be a perfect moderator for this forum . To bad WopOnTour isnt around more , cause would make a great one too .
+1000 I was thinking the same. As far as I know, Dan pretty much wrote what most of us use as the acceptable, safe, and powerful 60lb/hr injector tune, one of the first to use and tune meth injection, is setting a template for me for my twincharging project as well as 2 others, will probably be the first one here to turbo a 2.4 and tune it properly, and has more of his tuned cars trapping 106+ on street tires than anyone. Oh and he also is a GM engineer in training at the former GM Institute, Kettering University. :bow:

Ok, then he should be the mod. Does he get on here EVERYDAY? We need someone who is on everyday to... well moderate.

Funny how this is turning into a debate and a argument...:bye:

How so?

Funny how this is turning into a debate and a argument...:bye:

They did say in the original post they wanted feedback and suggestions . Get ur ideas in early . Speak your mind or deal with whats dealt . I wouldnt say anyone is "fighting" :) ...Dan hasnt even got banned yet :D :D :D

I think how about we combined a lot of thinking here only let: Seniors, Premiums (cause they did pay to support the site) and New Members by invite only how does that work?

.Dan hasnt even got banned yet :D :D :D
true true, lol :twothumbs :twothumbs :twothumbs :cssNET:

lol u guys make me blush...I used to be on here hrs/day...since the incident I cut my hours back a lot. I feel this would give me a medium to help others and would keep me around the site more than I am now. All I do at work/school is surf here and at RL forums. Put the past in the past and spread the RIGHT knowledge.

I was thinking make it so everybody could read it and probably post BUT posts not belonging here would be removed immediately. Common Info about our applications and forum rules would be stickied to that top as well.

Just my thoughts

Dan

Is this another SS only thing?

Is this another SS only thing?

All ecotec . Like I said earlier , most of the hardcore ecotec combo's did not orginally start life as a LSJ and alot of the tech crosses between engines .

You should have to pass a quiz in order to be able to post here. Only let people post that know the answers to all the stupid questions that people ask on here daily.

minimum join date is better then minimum post count..this keeps people from whoreing

as HackAbuse would say "post whoreing makes baby jesus cry" :lol:

You should have to pass a quiz in order to be able to post here. And this quiz would consist of????
Only let people post that know the answers to all the stupid questions that people ask on here daily.

I thought that's what Sticky's are for?

Anyway, I couldn't care less either way. I'm here to help and to get help. I'm not here to judge or label anyone (nor to be judged or labeled) based on their knowledge of a specific engine. Afterall, at one point or another all of us knew nothing.

As "stupid" as some of these questions may seem, they're only stupid because you already know the answer. Yet, have someone ask a question to which you do not know the answer, and you'll suddenly see people say it's a "good question."

Is this another SS only thing?

ss/sc thing, sounds too familar debate and argumental and not even started so if your not a high poster your not good enough

And this quiz would consist of????

1. What companies offer a GM Stage 2 hub pulley?
2. Which intakes DON'T throw a code?
3. What size injectors are needed for a 2.8 pulley?
4. What companies offer headers for the LSJ?
5. How do you install a pulley?
6. How do you install injectors?
7. How do you calibrate the MAF table? (jk about that one)

#2 is out of the question because it isn't a proven answer. It depends on the car and installation. A quiz isn't going to work.

1. What companies offer a GM Stage 2 hub pulley?
2. Which intakes DON'T throw a code?
3. What size injectors are needed for a 2.8 pulley?
4. What companies offer headers for the LSJ?
5. How do you install a pulley?
6. How do you install injectors?
7. How do you calibrate the MAF table? (jk about that one)

Are you trying to start an arguement on here? HA HA HA

What injectors w/ 2.8" Pulley is a loaded question that will start WW3.

I don't think a quiz is the appropriate way to segregate members. I agree w/ Dan that it should be an open forum that is more aggressively monitored. If something is not relevant or will help no one, drop it off the face of the earth. That will allow good debate and sharing of information from people who have 5,000 posts or 1 post. Remember, just because someone joined yesterday and has only posted once, does not mean they know nothing about the Ecotec engine or cobalts. Also, I would like to take a moment and support the idea that this should not be LSJ biased, which your quiz seems to be.

Im thinking all you have to do is have a moderator who knows what they are talking about. Anybody posts something that is useless or doesnt belong, zap, delete the post.

Having a high post count is stupid...ask any post whore
Member since is stupid...there are stupid people here that have been here forever
Quiz is stupid...you can find the answers online...but only if you know how to search ;)

Its a technical section, anything that does not belong report it and a mod will delete it

I would vote for Dan too because I have seen some of what he can do and its beautiful!

I was honestly joking about the quiz. That is stupid, I think by invite or approval by mod is the only way it will work. You can't go by join time or post count, what if a guy with a crap load of mods and experience doesn't know about site, then finds it and joins. He won't be able to post in here because he would be too new.

That's just it, though. I'd fail that quiz miserably.

I have quite a bit of experience with engines (mainly SBC) and drag racing RWD cars, but none with 4 cylinders or FWD. But that doesn't mean that I couldn't contribute somehow. As I'm sure there would be many new comers in the same boat.

Hey Guys I just bought my 2006 Cobalt ss in may and im still new to the SuperCharged thing and was wondering if anyone could educate me on what you can do to make these things fast. I have already bought a smaller pulley and have the stage 2 belt and an intake on it and next is # 60 lb injectors. I would appreciate the held guys Im sure there is some real car heads on here

where is a good place to buy a 50 shot system for my stage3

I recently purchase a Carbon fiber hood for my cobalt with a sealed scoop is their anyone that can help me open that scoop and connected to my Injen CAI !

im in Los Angeles!?

where is a good place to buy a 50 shot system for my stage3

I recently purchase a Carbon fiber hood for my cobalt with a sealed scoop is their anyone that can help me open that scoop and connected to my Injen CAI !

im in Los Angeles!?

Hey Guys I just bought my 2006 Cobalt ss in may and im still new to the SuperCharged thing and was wondering if anyone could educate me on what you can do to make these things fast. I have already bought a smaller pulley and have the stage 2 belt and an intake on it and next is # 60 lb injectors. I would appreciate the held guys Im sure there is some real car heads on here

this is the problem. These should be in the proper sections. Have a required join date so people have a better understanding where to post, but have an option if someone feels that they may have an answer (but haven't been here long enough) they can PM a mod, and the mod can allow them to post in said thread.

Along with an aggressive mod to destroy wothless posts.


I have 0 performance parts on my car but i will some day. I have questions because i would like to say the answer(s) for the future. I also have answers (not too technical) but i have answers from what I've learned first hand or from here

I guess it's all about what the persons opinon is of "advanced"
Before my SS I had a Cavalier, I did little things to it but nothing major. My SS is the first car I've actually MODDED. When I get a Stage 2 kit, that's an advanced mod to me. I've never done anything like that.

I know what you're saying though... I think we should keep "ADVANCED MOD" not so general. What about major [u]internal[u] modifications; i.e. pistons, porting, 6-speed conversion, automatic to manual conversion (and vice vera - WHO KNOWS!?)...