View Full Version : The Motor is IN!!!!!!
SS_SC_Cobalt 11-19-2006, 09:08 AM I was being a bit harsh. You did learn it's true..
But it sounds like you are rushing and not thinking.
Get a white board next time.
Get a digital camera next time.
Take pictures of every part of the engine. Every Connection and hose.
Put in order the steps you have to do to make it run..
Ie.
Clean Head and Block Surfaces
Install Head Studs
Place Head Gasket (Correct Face Up)
Initial Torque Head in Outward Pattern to 20 Ft/Lb
Install Head to 80 Ft/Lb In Outward Patten
Time Motor so that crank is TDC Intake Cam sits 90 Deg Ex Cam Sits 270 Deg
Tension Chain and rotate assembly (Crank) by hand Clockwise (Twice) to check timing.
Etc.. Etc..
You wasted so much time and money by being sloppy... If you worked in a garage and did this, you would be fired and blacklisted in your city.
Dood, fact is he doesn't do this professionally, obviously doing this for the first time, and is learning as he goes, not everyone is as great as you I guess:nono: ...Why flame the guy on his own thread that he put up to help inform others, if you realize it or not others will have LEARNED from his mistakes as well as himself..:cssNET:
victory_red_SS 11-19-2006, 10:32 AM Dood, fact is he doesn't do this professionally, obviously doing this for the first time, and is learning as he goes, not everyone is as great as you I guess:nono: ...Why flame the guy on his own thread that he put up to help inform others, if you realize it or not others will have LEARNED from his mistakes as well as himself..:cssNET:
That is the exact reason (Brains attitude) that Brain has the dishonour of being the only member on my "ignore list".
bdwarr6 11-19-2006, 11:08 AM I would have a digital camera but it was stolen, I took a decent amount of pictures on my phone. I have honestly taken a great deal of time to double check things.
I am really not on a deadline yes I want it done but I can survive without it
Asphalt Assault 11-19-2006, 12:18 PM That is the exact reason (Brains attitude) that Brain has the dishonour of being the only member on my "ignore list".
LOL......OH MY GOD..... so funny, but sad.:bow:
Brian MP5T 11-19-2006, 01:04 PM Dood, fact is he doesn't do this professionally, obviously doing this for the first time, and is learning as he goes, not everyone is as great as you I guess:nono: ...Why flame the guy on his own thread that he put up to help inform others, if you realize it or not others will have LEARNED from his mistakes as well as himself..:cssNET:
Yer Kidding... Right?
Something this big should not be done like this..
One hour of planning will prevent thousands of dollars and hours and hours of wasted time.
It's not negative... At least it wasn't meant to be.. It was meant to be a suggestion for the next person who does this type of swap the first time..
Brian MP5T 11-19-2006, 01:05 PM That is the exact reason (Brains attitude) that Brain has the dishonour of being the only member on my "ignore list".
That's ok. I added you to my Buddy list to counter your negative CHI..
bdwarr6 11-19-2006, 01:37 PM lol come on share the love
Im going to do a write up and trust me planning is involved
I made alot of screw ups, but from me being a noob i can help another noob alot better that say a person with your knowlege you might underlook a simple thing that a new person to this might not understand, Brian i do however greatly respect your knowlege as I know you are highly intellegent with cars and engines.
Just look at it this way better me who could afford it then someone who couldnt
Yes Im broke now but in my honest opinion all my screw ups were worth it for the amount of knowlege of cars, and flat out this motor.
It has also led me onto some vary good things tha could be done to this car
Such as an air to air cooling system, not good for the supercharger but i think it will benifit greatly on a twin charge yes you will loose alot of power on the supercharger but honestly it wont be needed for it when you have a large turbo, it is only going to be meant to stop some of that lag
Brian MP5T 11-19-2006, 01:53 PM ^^^ Just so you know, I am serious about not intending to flame your thread..
I think it's awesome that you are doing it yourself rather than just getting some dude to do it for you. That to me is massive. So Congrats...
bdwarr6 11-19-2006, 01:58 PM ^^^ Just so you know, I am serious about not intending to flame your thread..
I think it's awesome that you are doing it yourself rather than just getting some dude to do it for you. That to me is massive. So Congrats...
I know that, I might have been one of the few to not look at it that way,
People have different ways of expressing themself, I didnt take your post as a flame, but my reply was me pretty much toasted last night.
2K5SS/SC? 11-19-2006, 02:05 PM Brian, usually I stick up for your opinions, but here I think it is sort of uncalled for here. Obviously BD has lost a lot of sleep, spent a few extra bills, and made a couple mistakes. I think we have all been at that point once before. I know that by doing 2 clutch jobs on this car, and a headgasket replacement I have learned a significant amount about this it. I agree with the fact about being organized, as some would say I border on having OCD. This task that he took on is a truely an admirable one which will be successfully accomplished here in a little bit. The knowledge gained and self satisfaction when the car is running and tuned properly will be enough reward to satisfy BD. I'm sure you remember that feeling when you finished you Mazda and Porsche builds, as I did when I got my car running again. I think the negative vibe around here lately is more detrimental to this site than anything. I'm not trying to argue on here, but at this point I think we should all just be supportive and help him out as much as possible to finish the job. :cssNET:
BD, any word when you HPTuners cable will be returning to you? We're all anxious for you to get the beast fired up and breathing life again. :twothumbs
bdwarr6 11-19-2006, 02:06 PM Diamond Pistons 725
Cometic 95
Headstuds 130
crank bolts 90
machine shop 300
sleeve 200
bdwarr6 11-19-2006, 02:07 PM It was just dropped off not even 2 minutes ago
bdwarr6 11-19-2006, 02:07 PM MUAHAHAHHAHAHAHA to the garage I GO!
2K5SS/SC? 11-19-2006, 02:28 PM Good luck! I bet someone is a little more excited right now than the rest of us awaiting the results!
bdwarr6 11-19-2006, 02:53 PM throttle body is stuck at 35% throttle just pulled it off the car and am trying to get it apart
Cobalt_Supercharged 11-19-2006, 03:09 PM throttle body is stuck at 35% throttle just pulled it off the car and am trying to get it apart
I hope that it is nothing serious. Good Luck.
Brian MP5T 11-19-2006, 03:46 PM Is it cable or electronic TB..
Cobalt_Supercharged 11-19-2006, 03:48 PM Electronic
your never going to get the car running
2K5SS/SC? 11-19-2006, 04:01 PM your never going to get the car running
That is a messed up thing to say. I'm sure he'll get it squared away. There are always little quirks to work out before the car will run perfectly again.
Keep us posted BD. :cssNET:
Brian MP5T 11-19-2006, 04:34 PM Electronic
So perhaps it's not fully closed just because the power has not been put to it yet.
Stepper motor usually does not have a self closing spring..
It would work like an electronic boost or Electronic EGT..
CTORANGESC 11-19-2006, 04:39 PM your never going to get the car running
Maybe since your so smart then you can tell BD how to fix his problem, If you dont have anything good to say then be quiet. I'd like to see you try what he has done then keep us posted on how your doing.:cssNET:
sunfirejoe 11-19-2006, 04:42 PM i had that problem 3 weeks ago while tuning my car, i unplugged the throttle body and took the battery off for 15 minutes
reflashed the pcm and bam presto worked after that
Brian MP5T 11-19-2006, 05:34 PM i had that problem 3 weeks ago while tuning my car, i unplugged the throttle body and took the battery off for 15 minutes
reflashed the pcm and bam presto worked after that
So you are basically saying that
He should not have taken it off the car.
Boosted_SS 11-19-2006, 05:48 PM That is the exact reason (Brains attitude) that Brain has the dishonour of being the only member on my "ignore list".
he does seem like a douch bag
BooSSted 11-19-2006, 06:18 PM Please don't tell me you took the TB apart. I think it is more of a wiring issue than the TB being physically stuck!
pjk91 11-19-2006, 06:18 PM i had that problem 3 weeks ago while tuning my car, i unplugged the throttle body and took the battery off for 15 minutes
reflashed the pcm and bam presto worked after that
yeah i would try that if i was him
bdwarr6 11-19-2006, 09:24 PM Please don't tell me you took the TB apart. I think it is more of a wiring issue than the TB being physically stuck!
I got it open and fixed a gear inside the TB
Also my no spark issue has been fixed, only to learn that my timing is off, compression test showed 30 across the boards
Im taking tonight off as work was pretty rough, ill be in the garage about 8 am and should have it done by early evening
I am just wondering if i can do a timing job with the motor i the car, or if im going to have to pull it again, any input on this is welcome
And to the flamers stay out of my thread if you dont have anything to say postive and dont ever dare ask me a question about anything as one of you has already done.
I am a very nice person but am not going to be flamed and them act buddie buddie with you in a pm or on AIM
bdwarr6 11-19-2006, 09:34 PM Please don't tell me you took the TB apart. I think it is more of a wiring issue than the TB being physically stuck!
I got it open and fixed a gear inside the TB
Also my no spark issue has been fixed, only to learn that my timing is off, compression test showed 30 across the boards
Im taking tonight off as work was pretty rough, ill be in the garage about 8 am and should have it done by early evening
I am just wondering if i can do a timing job with the motor i the car, or if im going to have to pull it again, any input on this is welcome
And to the flamers stay out of my thread if you dont have anything to say postive and dont ever dare ask me a question about anything as one of you has already done.
I am a very nice person but am not going to be flamed and them act buddie buddie with you in a pm or on AIM
Cobalt_Supercharged 11-19-2006, 09:42 PM I hope it was a matter of something in the way and not that you repositioned the Throttle Plate. The TB sits at 35% when no power/input is being supplied to it.
bdwarr6 11-19-2006, 09:45 PM no it now sits at 35 % :) it as 7% off
2K5SS/SC? 11-19-2006, 11:57 PM You can time the engine with the motor in the car still. Use that link I sent you about the cam sensor, and the timing should also be in there. If not in that link, use the GM build book. In one of the sections it gives a great write up. It took two people to get the timing right. I had to have my buddy use two wrenches, one on each cam, and they had to be turned inward slightly toward each other to get the cams in the right place. I then double checked to make sure I was at TDC where I left it when I took the head off. Then I attached on cam gear and placed the chain on top of it. I then took the other cam gear and slid it into the chain and onto the cam using the bolt to line it up. It took a couple times to get it right as we were a tooth off the first couple times.
Since you do not have marks, this may be a little more difficult. You'll have to use the build books methods with the chain marks which will require so many rotations to get the chain where it needs to be to do the job.
07BlackCobalt-LS 11-20-2006, 01:44 AM Cant wait for the inevitable,"It fired up!!!" I just wanna see a video or hear a sound clip of it.
Brian MP5T 11-20-2006, 04:52 AM If the engine is an interference motor (IE Valves Can Touch Pistons) you probably need new valves if the motor was far out of timing..
The timing makes sure that the valves close as the piston arrives at TDC.
The Porsche that I have is an interference motor. If the timing belt goes, so does the entire motor..
Boosted_SS 11-20-2006, 07:12 AM If the engine is an interference motor (IE Valves Can Touch Pistons) you probably need new valves if the motor was far out of timing..
The timing makes sure that the valves close as the piston arrives at TDC.
The Porsche that I have is an interference motor. If the timing belt goes, so does the entire motor..
to the best of my knowledge this is not an interference motor
Brian MP5T 11-20-2006, 08:14 AM to the best of my knowledge this is not an interference motor
If that's the case, the motor is probably more than fine.. Awesome!
Johnboy12358 11-20-2006, 10:25 AM Too all the naysayers and flamers, I say to you:
http://upload4.postimage.org/1669825_78366d6617f69954193354465b59bbbc/270911970_db35fdd4ca.jpg
The cat will kick your ass, so shut up.
Once again I say, good luck bdwarr, I hope that engine starts spinnin soon.
2K5SS/SC? 11-20-2006, 11:57 AM Damn, I wish I could help you out more than providing internet info. If I could go to your house and give you a hand, I think we could have her up and running in about a hour or two max. I'm really anxious to see the project get rolling finally here.
Asphalt Assault 11-20-2006, 12:16 PM to the best of my knowledge this is not an interference motor
I don't know if it is an interference motor or not but my bet is that it is. I would put money on it. there is not many engines out there that is not and being the level of performance the ECOtec is the valves surely would hit.
bdwarr6 11-20-2006, 12:48 PM The timing is off by one tooth, o if it is interferance which i belive it is im not worried, i have spun it around plenty of times nothing hitting, the blue chain links at to the left of the notch and not right on top of them, I still havent started, just woke up was really tired and now about to go see james bond
DJMKAFKA 11-20-2006, 12:57 PM The timing is off by one tooth, o if it is interferance which i belive it is im not worried, i have spun it around plenty of times nothing hitting, the blue chain links at to the left of the notch and not right on top of them, I still havent started, just woke up was really tired and now about to go see james bond
screw the movie get your car runnin lol
campo165 11-20-2006, 01:01 PM hey, happy 1 week anniversary!
also, i hated james bond! didnt stand up to the name at all...its like they are trying to change the feel of the movie from the usual action packed awesomeness!
departed, on the other hand, was long, but pretty good. lots of head shots :lol:
06blackg85ss 11-20-2006, 01:41 PM damnit your not allowed to take breaks... get back to work man... you got too many people waiting in suspense now.
Evilfrog 11-20-2006, 03:29 PM damnit your not allowed to take breaks... get back to work man... you got too many people waiting in suspense now.
No kinding. Bond isnt going to fix your car for you.
06SS-SC 11-20-2006, 03:37 PM bd just wanted to drop in and say ive been following your threads for a few weeks now and its great your gonna rebuild this bitch yourself! Where in indy are you located as maybe i could give ya a hand timing the motor, plus i wouldent mind seeing your balt as i cant seem to find any near me =P
bdwarr6 11-20-2006, 03:51 PM No kinding. Bond isnt going to fix your car for you.
Ive got so much time into this project im trying to keep from getting burnt out, now after the movie i feel much better, you guys must understand i am a very social person and i havent spoken to literaly anyone in about a month now due to my car LOL
so im going to get started, ill work pretty decent now
sneaky 11-20-2006, 03:52 PM No kinding. Bond isnt going to fix your car for you.
No but MacGyver can.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacGyver
bdwarr6 11-20-2006, 05:44 PM So if you remove the motor mount and lower the engine ou have access to the timing case, just i broke a cam sprocket so i have to wait till wensday to put it in!!!!
DAM YELLOW DEVIL
Brian MP5T 11-20-2006, 06:21 PM How do you break a cam sprocket?
06blackg85ss 11-20-2006, 06:21 PM yellow cobalts are cursed man... just ask the LI guys
bdwarr6 11-20-2006, 06:39 PM How do you break a cam sprocket?
honestly it is junk, trying to get the bolt off, i secured the cams not to move and BAM the bitch snaps it broke the 2 pins on the read that hold it in place
Brian MP5T 11-20-2006, 08:02 PM honestly it is junk, trying to get the bolt off, i secured the cams not to move and BAM the bitch snaps it broke the 2 pins on the read that hold it in place
Fucking Cheap Shit..
bdwarr6 11-20-2006, 08:12 PM Fucking Cheap Shit..
General Motors
Cobalt_Kid 11-20-2006, 08:13 PM so im reading this whole thing trying to figure out what ur doing exactlly and so far my guess is you re-built the lsj?
bdwarr6 11-20-2006, 08:32 PM I blew out the ring lanyard in a piston and rebuilt the motor
I did all the work myself and it has been alot of crap after alot of crap gone wrong
maybe one day it will run
summary of 16 pages
Cobalt_Kid 11-20-2006, 08:38 PM have faith im sure you'll get it.
DarkCobalt13 11-20-2006, 08:40 PM Ur doin ur best man!! Just keep on keepin on and it will get done.
mrbelvedere 11-21-2006, 01:55 AM bd i have read this thread and i must say congrats dude you are doing a great job on the rebuild take some advice walk away from it for a couple of days then you will be all freshened up and things will go alot smoother
john
bdwarr6 11-21-2006, 02:03 AM i get to rest till wensday night when i get my cam sprocket
then im going to return to wrench whore status
Cobalt_Supercharged 11-21-2006, 02:42 AM The 300hp LSJ build book warns of interference, so I would be careful.
xCobalt05x 11-21-2006, 03:53 AM thank god my uncle builds hot rods for a living, i would hate to be like this guy and run into all these problems
2K5SS/SC? 11-21-2006, 04:24 AM Damn BD, that just plain sucks bro. I feel for you still though. Nothing goes right for me either the first time. There is always one little thing that breaks, and it takes forever to get in. Did you order the adjustable cam sprockets or the stock ones again?
Spastic Chicken 11-21-2006, 08:00 AM I'm expecting to hear of completion status by Turkey Day.
Make it happen, Sulu. (or however it's spelled)
Good Luck bro :twothumbs
cobaltBlackss 11-21-2006, 12:43 PM I think you might be the only person on earth who has worse luck than me! Good luck, hope to hear it's done soon.
I'm expecting to hear of completion status by Turkey Day.
Make it happen, Sulu. (or however it's spelled)
Good Luck bro :twothumbs
i'd place money it wont be done by thanksgiving because its a lock something else will break or go wrong. Nothing against bdwarr but after everything thats gone wrong so far I doubt this is the last of his problems
HViper 11-21-2006, 06:39 PM yellow cobalts are cursed man... just ask the LI guys
I agree with that, my first balt was yellow, and cursed it was!!! Thats why I have a orange one now, and the fact that I couldnt find another yellow one in the area.:lol: :lol: :lol:
Good luck bro, can't wait for you to get her running.:twothumbs
bdwarr6 11-21-2006, 08:22 PM I hope it gets done tomorrow night
I ordered a new CHEAP OEM one :)
sneaky 11-22-2006, 08:25 AM I hope it gets done tomorrow night
I ordered a new CHEAP OEM one :)
Get that bitch running mmkay?
bdwarr6 11-22-2006, 09:59 AM going to pickup new sprocket now
DJMKAFKA 11-22-2006, 10:02 AM hurry hurry
cawpin 11-22-2006, 10:13 AM hurry hurry
Wow, 3 minutes after his post....not that we're excited or anything.
veloom 11-22-2006, 10:36 AM bdwarr6
This reminds me of the first time I tore my GTP's motor appart and installed a cam. Once you get her started, all the time and money you spent doesnt matter. It is such a great feeling knowing you did it yourself and it works.
I had never done it before but by the next year I had helped 7 other people with their installs.
Now when you smoke someone on the street, it will feel that much better. Anyone can pay someone to do an install, it takes a lot more to do it yourself.
Good Luck Man
:twothumbs
JRANGER 11-22-2006, 10:44 AM YUSDGHISDSDHOSDSDLSDSDLAIOUJHPFEEGBvfvjnkVN MAKE IT WORK!!!!!!!!!! I WANNA HEAR IT ROAR!!!!!!!!!
bdwarr6 11-22-2006, 11:12 AM W#*(&*N#$C%JKMW#N*&CNM#*B$C%N#$*(N%MC&M#$*& C%N(*$%
they ordered the wrong fucking part
no worry since i have mad hookups GM just paid to same day me the part
god i love having my dad work at the cincinati parts warehouse as a manager nontheless
DJMKAFKA 11-22-2006, 11:22 AM Arggggggggggggggggggh
bdwarr6 11-22-2006, 11:23 AM Arggggggggggggggggggh
no shit LOL
JRANGER 11-22-2006, 11:33 AM O Fucking A!
wdsoccer 11-22-2006, 11:33 AM Hey Bdwarr6 just lettin you know that i got the gauge pod....thanks
M88ArRamadi 11-22-2006, 11:37 AM Dude...I can't wait until it starts up!! Did you use a pulley puller to get the crank pully off? Also did you get a mint with your pistons...I did.
My Situation: I'm waiting for my friends cherry picker, leveler, and stand. My motor is prepped already....Holy screaming eagle shit that wire harness is huge!! Also waiting for CPP.com to send my stuff. I ended up getting the stage 3+ but I thiink that is overkill. what do you think? Should I change it to the stage 2+? Please PM me the answer...I don't want to side-burst.
SS_SC_Cobalt 11-22-2006, 11:59 AM Dude...I can't wait until it starts up!! Did you use a pulley puller to get the crank pully off? Also did you get a mint with your pistons...I did.
My Situation: I'm waiting for my friends cherry picker, leveler, and stand. My motor is prepped already....Holy screaming eagle shit that wire harness is huge!! Also waiting for CPP.com to send my stuff. I ended up getting the stage 3+ but I thiink that is overkill. what do you think? Should I change it to the stage 2+? Please PM me the answer...I don't want to side-burst.
fo you guys doing this stuff here is a thanksgiving present.. :)
Ch1 and 2 (http://gmperformancedivision.com/content/pulse/54/ECOTEC_2.0L_LSJ_Chap_1&2.pdf)
CH 3 and 4 (http://gmperformancedivision.com/content/pulse/57/ECOTEC_2.0L_LSJ_Chap_3&4.pdf)
CH 5 and 6 (http://gmperformancedivision.com/content/pulse/58/ECOTEC_2.0L_LSJ_Chap5&6.pdf)
Enjoy!:twothumbs
Imlikedrpepper 11-22-2006, 12:12 PM Damnit, all this waiting...I want to see that post "ITS RUNNING" and then I want to see the dyno, hehehe
bdwarr6 11-22-2006, 12:41 PM Dude...I can't wait until it starts up!! Did you use a pulley puller to get the crank pully off? Also did you get a mint with your pistons...I did.
My Situation: I'm waiting for my friends cherry picker, leveler, and stand. My motor is prepped already....Holy screaming eagle shit that wire harness is huge!! Also waiting for CPP.com to send my stuff. I ended up getting the stage 3+ but I thiink that is overkill. what do you think? Should I change it to the stage 2+? Please PM me the answer...I don't want to side-burst.
no have someone hold the belt onto the pulley and keep it tight then just take off the bolt the pulley will slide right off,
becareful with your oil squirters i fucked mine up
bdwarr6 11-22-2006, 12:42 PM also the leveler is a must, you will have to finagle it to get it out,
This is a must pull the block and complete transmission otherwise youll just waste time and end up doing it anyway
hook the leveler upto the head and then remove 3 tranny mounts and the engine mount and all wires, then just pull it out
Arggggggggggggggggggh
having fun at work? :lol:
2K5SS/SC? 11-22-2006, 02:45 PM BD, this project has got to be driving you crazy by now. I'm going nuts just waiting on its completion and I've never even seen the car! :lol:
Oh, and you did reinstall the oil squirters right? I sure hope so.
Imlikedrpepper 11-22-2006, 07:27 PM bump. Any new info?
bdwarr6 11-22-2006, 09:10 PM I got 3 of them in fine the 4th was completely stripped out, a very knowlegable person told me just to plug it, and it would raise oil pressue 1-2lbs
so i plugged it
nothing else i could do, you cant get a helicoil for the size it was
bdwarr6 11-22-2006, 09:10 PM also i have the cam just relaxing some before i go finish it up, and prepare myself for what is going to break next
Brian MP5T 11-22-2006, 09:15 PM I got 3 of them in fine the 4th was completely stripped out, a very knowlegable person told me just to plug it, and it would raise oil pressue 1-2lbs
so i plugged it
nothing else i could do, you cant get a helicoil for the size it was
You plugged an oil squirter? Do you think that was a good idea??
sunfirejoe 11-22-2006, 10:38 PM yah arent the oil squirters a major part of cooling
bdwarr6 11-22-2006, 11:02 PM nothing i could do about it, the place i took my block said it shouldnt be a problem, and they are the best place in the midwest for engines
Schmits
they build 1/2 mil drag motors, he said just get an oil pressure gauge and oil temp you should be fine
bdwarr6 11-22-2006, 11:02 PM also PRAY
they timing is done just have to put valve cover back on and super
please dear god
06black 11-22-2006, 11:02 PM yah arent the oil squirters a major part of cooling
thats what i thought....i cant see that being a good thing
bdwarr6 11-23-2006, 12:10 AM oh well, there is honestly nothing i could do about it, i had several opinions on it and thats what i chose to do,
I am almost ready to attempt to fire it up
replace supercharger and motormount then try!
06black 11-23-2006, 12:17 AM ohhh snap!
let us know!
BooSSted 11-23-2006, 12:26 AM The moment of truth awaits.................
HickOverLOrd 11-23-2006, 12:35 AM after reading all 18 freakin pages and all the sh*t you have gone through after you thought it was done, I hope everything goes good. Good luck!
bdwarr6 11-23-2006, 01:05 AM THEY BITCH IS ALIVE
it sounds nasty
I will get a sound clip and movie tomorrow when i get the wheels back on it
bdwarr6 11-23-2006, 01:06 AM I am so fucking happy!!!!
one last thing is to bleed clutch, and I cant drive it till friday, snce it broke down on dealer plates... i have no plates!!!! neerrrrrrr
omg im seriously so happy
HickOverLOrd 11-23-2006, 01:08 AM Congrat the fuckin ulations!! Get the sound clips up asap!!!
bdwarr6 11-23-2006, 01:12 AM I am also running just a downpipe until my vibrant setup gets here so its extra nasty
victory_red_SS 11-23-2006, 01:14 AM THEY BITCH IS ALIVE
it sounds nasty
I will get a sound clip and movie tomorrow when i get the wheels back on it
After all of your troubles this should be front page news. Start a new thread. Congratulations. This is the news we have all been waiting for.
:twothumbs :guns: :twothumbs :guns: :twothumbs :guns:
bdwarr6 11-23-2006, 01:14 AM i might go finish everything else up right now im so fucking happy
sunfirejoe 11-23-2006, 01:24 AM i already told u congrats once via msn, but congrats again bud
bdwarr6 11-23-2006, 01:26 AM woot and i was honestly starting to think it would never run again!!!
down with negatism
cobalt FTW!!!!!
seriosly there is no way in hell i can sleep but cant do shit till i get my tuners cable back, and get some help to bleed the clutch
thought 11-23-2006, 01:49 AM Congratulations!
A video would be oh so sweet :-)
06black 11-23-2006, 02:10 AM lets hear this SOB!!!!
Cobalt_Supercharged 11-23-2006, 02:21 AM Hurray!!!!! I hope that squirter missing doesn't cause a problem.
Blown 4-banger 11-23-2006, 02:23 AM Your missing an oil squirter??? That piston will be toast in a month...
cobaltBlackss 11-23-2006, 03:53 AM f'n right doggy!!!
Brian MP5T 11-23-2006, 05:00 AM oh well, there is honestly nothing i could do about it, i had several opinions on it and thats what i chose to do,
I am almost ready to attempt to fire it up
replace supercharger and motormount then try!
The Oil Sqirter is an intergral part of the engine cooling system. I don't beleive you that someone at a Licenced Engine Shop told you they are not important... Was it the Janitor or the Secretary...??
The option is to fix it.
1. The heatloading across the 4 will not ballance, this will cause the one piston to expand at a diferent rate and swell in the cylinder.
2. It will increase the heat of that piston, because it is hotter in that one cylinder, you will encounter problems with detonation in only that one cylinder. The others will be fine but when you come on to it, that one cylinder will limit your HP across the entire bowerband.
The OPTION is to replace it. Buy a new block if you have to, I replaced my Mazda engine from Valve cover to oilpan for $800.00... Sold half the shit for a total of $600.00 and used that block and head..
2K5SS/SC? 11-23-2006, 07:55 AM Damn BD, I hope it works out for you. I think that is something I would have not taken a chance with though. Time will tell I guess...
06blackg85ss 11-23-2006, 09:26 AM well for one I"m happy for ya man,,, I know this has been one hell of a project and I followed it from day one... I just hope that oil squirter doesn't cause ya major problems.. it is actually a very important part of the motor.. especially runnnin high boost and compression... If I were you I would limit the amount of time you spend at WOT and hope for the best...
Good luck man now lets see some damn vids.. I gotta see/hear this thing go
dude thats sweet u got it working, sorry for the negatism but u finally got it started
lets hope it stays working :cssNET:
BooSSted 11-24-2006, 12:22 AM Congrats on getting it running. However I think your a fool for running it without the oil squirter. I know your anxious to get the project done, but you have to do it right. If you need a new block then that's what you need. You don't want to break more parts and be back in the same boat again with a broken car.
yellowcobaltss05 11-24-2006, 09:21 AM congrats man!! Sound clip ASAP:cssNET:
impulseballer 11-27-2006, 04:04 PM i wanna hear this beast
Brian MP5T 11-27-2006, 04:30 PM I don't think it will last very long minus the oil injector.
SS4ME 11-27-2006, 04:37 PM Congrats on getting it running. However I think your a fool for running it without the oil squirter. I know your anxious to get the project done, but you have to do it right. If you need a new block then that's what you need. You don't want to break more parts and be back in the same boat again with a broken car.
+1. Wow bdwarr6, you are seriously asking for more problems!
cawpin 11-27-2006, 04:55 PM I got 3 of them in fine the 4th was completely stripped out, a very knowlegable person told me just to plug it, and it would raise oil pressue 1-2lbs
so i plugged it
nothing else i could do, you cant get a helicoil for the size it was
If the place you took it was such a good shop they could have MADE a plug and threaded it for you. I think you're asking for trouble with that. It is cool that you got it running but I hope you don't fry it.
HunterKiller89 11-27-2006, 09:08 PM If the place you took it was such a good shop they could have MADE a plug and threaded it for you. I think you're asking for trouble with that. It is cool that you got it running but I hope you don't fry it.
agreed...with the thousands youve spent so far, how much more would it be to just get one custom made?
bdwarr6 01-06-2007, 02:22 AM I was broke by the end :)
Blown 4-banger 01-06-2007, 03:46 AM Still, you should have waited til you had enough to get that squirter fixed. Now your motors worthless because 1 piston is running 2 or 3 times hotter than the others, knock is gonna be crazy IN THAT 1 piston, and the piston will prolly melt as soon as it sees long continous WOT use :nono: You doomed yourself to blow the motor again...
Boosted_SS 01-06-2007, 07:16 AM now he is selling the car
bdwarr6 01-06-2007, 08:26 AM Still, you should have waited til you had enough to get that squirter fixed. Now your motors worthless because 1 piston is running 2 or 3 times hotter than the others, knock is gonna be crazy IN THAT 1 piston, and the piston will prolly melt as soon as it sees long continous WOT use :nono: You doomed yourself to blow the motor again...
Think what you want i run with 0 knock period, temps are were way below normal, there was no problem no i did throw out the bearing in my supercharger
I have done several runs to 150mph and ran it there for 2-3 miles rest assured its not that
Im selling my car not that I cant afford it, my income just more than doubled.... it doesnt fit my lifestyle anymore. This is honestly a pointless argument
Brian MP5T 01-06-2007, 08:42 AM You better pray that whoever buys it knows that the engine has some serious issues..
distillion 01-06-2007, 09:42 AM i wouldnt buy it.....
D4u2s0t 01-06-2007, 09:46 AM i wouldnt buy it.....
i doubt anyone here would...
thought 01-06-2007, 02:33 PM this is kind of a sad end to what started as one of the most exciting threads on here...
Boosted_SS 01-06-2007, 04:55 PM Think what you want i run with 0 knock period, temps are were way below normal, there was no problem no i did throw out the bearing in my supercharger
I have done several runs to 150mph and ran it there for 2-3 miles rest assured its not that
Im selling my car not that I cant afford it, my income just more than doubled.... it doesnt fit my lifestyle anymore. This is honestly a pointless argument
wasn't bashing you bro i was simply stating that you were selling you car. i never said anything about not being able to afford it. it was a simple point. sorry to offend you.
The_Blur 01-06-2007, 05:08 PM this is kind of a sad end to what started as one of the most exciting threads on here...
I have to agree. If I were going to sell the car, I would definitely not have tried to build one of the most ambitious motors on the site. I think that this was a waste of time, money, and effort for a car that is just going to be put on sale.
Go ahead. Sell the car. It's your ride.
Brian MP5T 01-06-2007, 07:29 PM Close the thread.. :)
Asphalt Assault 01-06-2007, 10:06 PM I have to agree. If I were going to sell the car, I would definitely not have tried to build one of the most ambitious motors on the site. I think that this was a waste of time, money, and effort for a car that is just going to be put on sale.
Go ahead. Sell the car. It's your ride.
Obviously the build was a disappointment if he is selling right away after spending the time and money. The problem was he didnt know what he was doing, got someone involved who did a bad job and took his money, and now he is scared of how long it will last.
let this be a lesson to all of us. If your going to change things make sure the builder is truely qualified to do the job right. and dont be cheap in getting it done.
victory_red_SS 01-06-2007, 10:11 PM Obviously the build was a disappointment if he is selling right away after spending the time and money. The problem was he didnt know what he was doing, got someone involved who did a bad job and took his money, and now he is scared of how long it will last.
let this be a lesson to all of us. If your going to change things make sure the builder is truely qualified to do the job right. and dont be cheap in getting it done.
Despite what Badwrr6 says I have to agree with ssnipes. It is for this very reason I chose to have professionals do my car. I do what I do very well and I let others do what they do very well, instaed of pretending I can do it all. I am sorry that this build went sideways as badly as it did.:bye:
Brian MP5T 01-06-2007, 10:49 PM This type of rebuild takes time and allot more money than you think..
To do it right, is a hard thing...
Blown 4-banger 01-07-2007, 01:17 AM ...and the curtains close on the long up and down journey of a Cobalt SS Supercharged :bye:
TCarter 01-07-2007, 02:21 AM ...i still wanna hear vids
TCarter 01-07-2007, 02:21 AM hear/watch vids
Brian MP5T 01-07-2007, 05:43 AM ...i still wanna hear vids
Why, It isn't even finished yet..
rick1217 01-07-2007, 06:30 AM i feel bad for him, he did try his best and put alot of work into the car, he probally lost a lot of money doing so, but alot of people can learn from him.
I like doing all the work myself and think i know quite abit more than the average person but there are quite a few things that i cant do because of lack of knowledge and dont have some tools required but we do need to learn somewhere, some of things i can't/haven't done... i am very intrested in learning more about. i love working on cars/trucks and one day i would like to have the knowledge and tools to do everything. i could afford to pay someone and sometimes i do if its a job i cant do but i like having that feeling of building a car/truck on your own....
Boosted_SS 01-07-2007, 11:38 AM Why, It isn't even finished yet..
it is finished and running! if you read, i believe it's his last post, he says he's made several 150+ runs and he talks about how he's running with 0 knock
distillion 01-07-2007, 11:41 AM still woudnt trust it as far as i can throw it.
Boosted_SS 01-07-2007, 11:47 AM ^^^^^^^i tend to agree^^^^^^^
Brian MP5T 01-07-2007, 01:42 PM it is finished and running! if you read, i believe it's his last post, he says he's made several 150+ runs and he talks about how he's running with 0 knock
Yeah, it's finished alright..
It's still a ticking bomb until the problems are addressed.
yellowshowbalt 01-07-2007, 02:16 PM where are the vids and sound clips of the engine. who cares if he wants to sell the car becouse he knows he did wrong on the oil squirter and whatever else hes not telling us. we want to here the engine running and see vids please show them before you sell the car, or tear in to it to fix your mistakes
JCswoosher2 01-07-2007, 02:19 PM yeah. might be worth it to buy it for the parts. and just go back and correct them and have a car u know about
sneaky 01-07-2007, 02:25 PM I can't imagine it won't take more then a day and about $400 to fix the oil squirter. Buy new gaskets, new piston since I won't trust the original after it might have swelled into the block, new ring, new squirter and 8-10 hrs of elbow grease. not a total loss yet.
what a wast of time reading this thread, I hope they lock this and delete it so no one else wastes there time.I guess the lesson learned is leave it to the pros.
xCobalt05x 01-07-2007, 09:27 PM dude i so wish i had the extra cash right now, i soooo would buy this thing, fix the problem and post all kinds of vids on here to eat your heart out over. damn same to throw in the towel after all that
bdwarr6 01-08-2007, 12:16 PM That motor has no problems you guys honestly have no clue what you are talking about, sure you know cars. This is my car and I know it and FYI I have decided to keep it. I actually had an offer on the car from someone on this board...... I can tput a tag on the amount of hours I have put into it. So when the offer was made i realized i couldnt sell it end of story
Now stay the fuck out of my thread if you intent to bash my work or ideas. My car is fine and that is the end of the story.
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