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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 04:53 AM
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NOS Stock Pursuit 2.4L

I want to go with NOS as it is cheaper then turbo and electric SC is a waste of time
Question I have a Stock 2.4L Pursuit and want to know if you can go lower then a 50 shot if so what will gains be.

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Dry or WET
And what Brand would be safe

RPM Window Switch - what RPMs are safe range
WOT
a step or 2 colder plugs - what to get
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 10:11 AM
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wet, WET, WET. dry and you're just asking to blow **** up.

any brand that's got a model for 4cyl EFI will do ya.

RPMs 3k -> just before your rev limiter (6k?)
WOT switch as well
and an arming switch
1-step colder (srt4) plugs will do fine
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 11:05 AM
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I might consider 2 step colder just because of the stock CR, but again with out seeing your knock it's hard to say that you need them.

you could go with a 35 shot, but she'll take a 50 and 75 shot fine.

definitely want a wet kit single fogger. nx, nos, zex, nytrex, tnt, dynotune and a few others are all fine.

with your window switch, I would arm at 3200 and disarm about 200rpm before your engine's redline/rev limiter (I forget what the 2.4 stops at but I know it's higher than the 2.2). I'm running MSD 8969 with much success.

dont' cheap out on parts and don't rush your install and you'll be money
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 11:10 AM
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if you are worried about this you can always, get better valves Im guessing
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 11:13 AM
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better valves as far as what? why? you're fine with stock parts
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 11:35 AM
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Make sure its a wet shot!
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by slowion2
better valves as far as what? why? you're fine with stock parts
Did not know,never ran the stuff myself,I just meant as an reassurance
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 11:46 AM
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Did not know,never ran the stuff myself,I just meant as an reassurance
ok, I just thought you had reasoning behind it like durability or resistance to heat like the LSJ sodium filled valves. not trying to pick you out but that was kinda random lol
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 11:52 AM
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ok, I just thought you had reasoning behind it like durability or resistance to heat like the LSJ sodium filled valves. not trying to pick you out but that was kinda random lol
even if I was to run nos, I would srill have the lsj valves or JBP only cause both are more heat resistant than the 2.4 valves
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 11:54 AM
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right, and that's a great idea, if they do in fact fit in there properly, but you don't need them, at least with a 75shot and under which is what the majority of people will run ever
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by g5mike
even if I was to run nos, I would srill have the lsj valves or JBP only cause both are more heat resistant than the 2.4 valves

it's not the n2o that raises the heat, it's the friction... you'd prolly actually do a better job with lightening the valvetrain with n2o
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 11:56 AM
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eh, the gain would be negligble though
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by slowion2
right, and that's a great idea, if they do in fact fit in there properly, but you don't need them, at least with a 75shot and under which is what the majority of people will run ever
I know Im runnin away with this thread, but with my valetrain job being done today what shot do you think I could run,not ever going to just curious
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 12:07 PM
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with the right precautions, and based off what you're sig says as far as modifications, I'd venture to say a 75 or 50 shot would run great on your setup (again, with the right precautions).

if you havea 2.2 I would suggest upgrading the exhaust manifold to at least that of a 2.0 or 2.4 to help flow out a bit, and make more usable torque in the powerband.
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by slowion2
with the right precautions, and based off what you're sig says as far as modifications, I'd venture to say a 75 or 50 shot would run great on your setup (again, with the right precautions).

if you havea 2.2 I would suggest upgrading the exhaust manifold to at least that of a 2.0 or 2.4 to help flow out a bit, and make more usable torque in the powerband.
I have the 2.4 and my port and polish is being done today also,thanks for the info,never know come spring and the tracks open up,a little nos could happen,oh I did get the high heat performance vlaves
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 12:24 PM
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are you milling the head as well any? are the valves stock or high comp/flat faced.
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by slowion2
are you milling the head as well any? are the valves stock or high comp/flat faced.
head is being done and the valves are the JBP high performance/high heat
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 12:55 PM
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lol that's not answering my question but alright

you'll be fine either way, and I've heard good things about those cams in passing.
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by slowion2
lol that's not answering my question but alright

you'll be fine either way, and I've heard good things about those cams in passing.
the cams I got no one has yet, Im the tester for JBP
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 01:10 PM
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I'm pretty sure they make cams for the 2.2 and that people rave about them
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by slowion2
I'm pretty sure they make cams for the 2.2 and that people rave about them
i think comp cams makes them for the 2.2 guys but not the 2.4
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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 03:15 PM
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anyone know how big a dry shot the stock 2.4 fuel pump and injectors are good
for? I've had great results on my LS1 Fbody with a dry shot, wet is too dependent
on bottle temp (pressure) for AFR and I'd rather just let the MAF report the extra flow.
Intake was never meant to flow fuel saturated mixture as well.....
Also with a wet shot if the fuel noid fails- BOOM.....
I've always ran with an arming switch, FPSS, WOT and window switches as well on an M6.
Thanks
Mark
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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ratboy
anyone know how big a dry shot the stock 2.4 fuel pump and injectors are good
for? I've had great results on my LS1 Fbody with a dry shot, wet is too dependent
on bottle temp (pressure) for AFR and I'd rather just let the MAF report the extra flow.
Intake was never meant to flow fuel saturated mixture as well.....
Also with a wet shot if the fuel noid fails- BOOM.....
I've always ran with an arming switch, FPSS, WOT and window switches as well on an M6.
Thanks
Mark
I would ask GTP on this one
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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ratboy
anyone know how big a dry shot the stock 2.4 fuel pump and injectors are good
for? I've had great results on my LS1 Fbody with a dry shot, wet is too dependent
on bottle temp (pressure) for AFR and I'd rather just let the MAF report the extra flow.
Intake was never meant to flow fuel saturated mixture as well.....
Also with a wet shot if the fuel noid fails- BOOM.....
I've always ran with an arming switch, FPSS, WOT and window switches as well on an M6.
Thanks
Mark
The stock fuel pump should be fine, but you will be going over 100% duty cycle on the stock 24lb injectors. I bought some stock ss/sc 34lb injectors to slip in my 2.4 when I do my next round of mods (cams+.) I think i'm running pretty close to 100% dc with my current mods.

Go to http://www.rceng.com/technical.htm to calculate the size injectors you'll need for your intended power level.
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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by g5mike
I would ask GTP on this one
Thanks, I'm willing to upgrade the fuel system if necessary but if stock can handle
a 50shot I'll go for it- one bottle and heater, good for 2 cars......

Mark
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