Turbo Swap Numbers, Posting for an Old Friend...
Turbo Swap Numbers, Posting for an Old Friend...
Well, as some of you may know Selfinfliction was banned from this site several times which is a shame considering he is definitely a forerunner in power developement now. Just to let you know with the rough tune stated below at 22psi, still breaking in the motor on low boost
, he netted a 12.37 quarter mile time with horrible 60ft times too! The only internal modifications thus far from what I'm told are the Mahle 8.5:1 pistons for $400!
He is some info. was given asked was requested to post over here.
If you guys know anything about the turbo being used, it is the latest creation from Turbonetics with faster spool times and the ability to belt out 450hp. It has special thermal coatings and a specially designed compressor wheel which permitts nill to none compressor surge and ultimate spool times. Very nice setup. I'll keep everyone posted if I receive more info. He is posting on our sister forums, and I'm sure most of you know who it is.
He is some info. was given asked was requested to post over here.
We used a turbonetics gt-k 450 and it's putting down 364whp with the sketchy tune on it now. we're not really worried about the hp at the moment, the main goal is to get another 40-50wtq out of it. sorry i can't get any pictures yet until the thing is completely finished.
i never got around to posting anything on ss.net cause i got tired of making accounts. could you post my times and info over there for me, just to get the info out.
i never got around to posting anything on ss.net cause i got tired of making accounts. could you post my times and info over there for me, just to get the info out.
Here's some more info on it I just found out. He has replaced the pistons, headgasket, straight pipe on exhaust, and put a turbo on. There was no headwork performed to the car either. If he did, his numbers would be insane! Turbo is spooled at approximately 3100rpm, and takes off like a rocketship there after.
Originally Posted by DWK5150
But wasnt he saying the thing has lag big time in his post on red line??
I could deal with the lag as it's not that bad for a turbo. **** with some axles, a lot better tune since his is rough, and some Hoosier QTP's 11's wouldn't be out of the question at all. Now, how well the tranny holds up is another question all together!
I dont think the tranny will last long at all. Id really like to see one with a little smaller turbo and see what it would do. That thing wouldnt be to streetable like that if the lag is that bad though.
I think the GT-K 350 is what you would be looking for then. It's a little smaller, would spool quicker, and push around 350ish hp. A tubular manfold instead of a log style one would certainly help spool times as well.
Originally Posted by DWK5150
I dont think the tranny will last long at all. Id really like to see one with a little smaller turbo and see what it would do. That thing wouldnt be to streetable like that if the lag is that bad though.
Originally Posted by Witt
I worry about these transmissions as well, but if you think for a sec, that is the one part people on these sites seem not to break....yet. They feel so weak, but I haven't read any substantial "transmission nuking" stories to be any more concerned.
True, but it seems like they are abuse cases, such as extreme wheel hop. Nothing internally damaged such as input/output shafts. What I mean to say, is that raw power isn't what will break these transmissions, its more of an inexperienced driver with no support mods.
Originally Posted by DWK5150
There have been cracked cases already and some blown up diffs.
Originally Posted by 06blackg85ss
Many blown trannies...
and a certain someone to remain nameless broke into the low 11's and on the second pass blew up the tranny in 2nd gear.
and a certain someone to remain nameless broke into the low 11's and on the second pass blew up the tranny in 2nd gear.
What were this "nameless" persons mods?
http://www.turboneticsinc.com/turbo_gtk.htm
Here is the link to the turbo's info. I couldn't find compressor maps quite yet.
Here is the link to the turbo's info. I couldn't find compressor maps quite yet.
Originally Posted by 06blackg85ss
Many blown trannies...
and a certain someone to remain nameless broke into the low 11's and on the second pass blew up the tranny in 2nd gear.
and a certain someone to remain nameless broke into the low 11's and on the second pass blew up the tranny in 2nd gear.
i have to ask on this but i see people doing this all the time.. what is the point of all this "top secret" type bullshit people are doing on this forum with mods and crap.. its a forum to help everybody not hide ****.. its a car.. not building nuclear weapons.. .. my 2 cent rant.
I think its more to do with the design of your own system, tyring and failing at different setups, to finally accomplish a design with your own research and money, then having it cloned by every moron from here to the moon, without you ever seeing a dollar or even a thanks for all that research. My 2 cents.
Originally Posted by Witt
I think its more to do with the design of your own system, tyring and failing at different setups, to finally accomplish a design with your own research and money, then having it cloned by every moron from here to the moon, without you ever seeing a dollar or even a thanks for all that research. My 2 cents.
most people on here cant create a company and design the # of the demands that would be wanted by the masses so thats really means nothing.... and its like i said.. this isnt building a nuclear weapon.. anything can be put on anycar if you really want to.. people act like creating a cure for aids.. ****.. just take a turbo or blower to a shop and say i want this on that.. bam its done.. i mean hell.. i know millwrights that can do all this "top secret" stuff in a matter of a day or 2.. lol
now the tuning side of things is different.. but putting piece A with piece B is simple
Originally Posted by Acidangel_5.0
most people on here cant create a company and design the # of the demands that would be wanted by the masses so thats really means nothing.... and its like i said.. this isnt building a nuclear weapon.. anything can be put on anycar if you really want to.. people act like creating a cure for aids.. ****.. just take a turbo or blower to a shop and say i want this on that.. bam its done.. i mean hell.. i know millrights that can do all this "top secret" stuff in a matter of a day or 2.. lol
now the tuning side of things is different.. but putting piece A with piece B is simple
now the tuning side of things is different.. but putting piece A with piece B is simple
It comes down to the point that in general, people are lazy and if they find an easy way out of designing a turbo swap/twincharge system they are going to take advantage of it. Is it fair to the person that had motivation to do it? No. But thats the key to this, that person, if he feels threatened of people cloning his hard work, can refuse to release details about his project. Cloning others hard work has been happening with tuning ever since HPT released support for these vehicles, and it will definetly happen with power adders.
I think the real issue people have been keeping stuff on the down low is that there are so many ****** on here lately it isn't funny. Criticism is fine to a certain extent, but some people get out of hand with it. I think the true performance guru's on here have had enough trying to justify their ideas and ambitions with all the people that can only bitch and moan about things they have no apparent idea about, and can't even look up or research simple concepts. I feel honored to be one of those people in touch with some of those "underground" projects personnally. I know it's no nuclear design, trust me on that one, but having the only one made by your own hands is something special and definitely something I can respect.
Originally Posted by Witt
Without going too off topic, and no intentional flaming intended, building a turbo swap or twincharge kit requires more planning, design and research then just going to a store and pointing out things. Nobody here is in any capacity of mass producing any "kits" so I think thats kinda unrelated.
It comes down to the point that in general, people are lazy and if they find an easy way out of designing a turbo swap/twincharge system they are going to take advantage of it. Is it fair to the person that had motivation to do it? No. But thats the key to this, that person, if he feels threatened of people cloning his hard work, can refuse to release details about his project. Cloning others hard work has been happening with tuning ever since HPT released support for these vehicles, and it will definetly happen with power adders.
It comes down to the point that in general, people are lazy and if they find an easy way out of designing a turbo swap/twincharge system they are going to take advantage of it. Is it fair to the person that had motivation to do it? No. But thats the key to this, that person, if he feels threatened of people cloning his hard work, can refuse to release details about his project. Cloning others hard work has been happening with tuning ever since HPT released support for these vehicles, and it will definetly happen with power adders.
no flaming taking.. im just trying to get an idea whats the deal with it? more out of wondering then anything.. im long time corral.net member (mustang) and we have alway been open to ideas and what not.. whether the concept will work or not.. i just have noticed a clear division in the type of members on this page.. 1 side that chitters between themselves of new modding paths and then the other side that just have no idea about cars in general that just want to go faster....


