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I have posted up the Stage 3 kits as well as the Stage PCM's
Stage Kit Link Click Here (http://www.crateenginedepot.com/store/Cobalt-Stage-Kits-C196.aspx)

Details about the kits are found there.
Kits are in stock!!

good shit... I might just pick up the pcm for the hell of it

Im not that impressed with what GM put into the stage 3 kit but the price isnt too bad since most people said over a grand. Might buy it just for the hell of it

Awsome. I'm all over that PCM like flies on shatner! :cssNET:

Im not that impressed with what GM put into the stage 3 kit

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but the price isnt too bad since most people said over a grand. Might buy it just for the hell of it

it will be over a grand since you need stage 2 to get stage 3.

But i am interested in that dual pass

is the PCM the same thing as an ECU, just a defferent name. Just incase you need to take it to the dealer and you want the warranty, can you just switch the stg 3 one with the stick one now problem without them detecting it

is the PCM the same thing as an ECU, just a defferent name. Just incase you need to take it to the dealer and you want the warranty, can you just switch the stg 3 one with the stick one now problem without them detecting it

Yeah you can switch between the stage 2 and the satge 3 PCMs no problem.

well if stage 3 is like stage 1 i will get as soon as possible i have stage 1 with 2.7 pulley from intense and the maft set 0/1 and the thing is a rocket pulls hard all the way to redline 7000 the only thing is weird when ac on the idle surges up and down.

So I take it's not covered under warranty?

So I take it's not covered under warranty?

no warrenty man, its a off-road kit and another big clue NOS!!!

cool

I'll avoid the Nitrous, but I kinda like the idea of Custom RPM. can our cars even handle 8000 RPM's w/o super duper Premium Octane or running Nitrous??

I'll avoid the Nitrous, but I kinda like the idea of Custom RPM. can our cars even handle 8000 RPM's w/o super duper Premium Octane or running Nitrous??

id be more worried about valve springs and such. If they can WOW but ill keep my 7000-7200 redline

I would prolly set mine at 7200.

i wonder how you would switch between the different modes with the new pcm

i wonder how you would switch between the different modes with the new pcm

from what i've heard it supposed to be all controlled by DIC, which has new features with the new PCM.

What NO2 system would work the best with this?

What does GM say

I want to know if it will run w/o Nitrous I don't think I would go past 7200 considering I have heard that past that we get valvel spring float. extra 200 RPMS it'll help

That would be about the most pimp thing ever

gm let me down with this kit... looks like all i have left is full exhaust, and possibly 2.8 with 60 #'ers

What NO2 system would work the best with this?

What does GM say

I assume any dry kit would work because it rescales the injector pulse width the compensate for the nitrous.:ca:

cool details for the install...



http://www.crateenginedepot.com/pdfs/s3ins.pdf

whoa nice it REQUIRES 93 octane with the new reworked pcm us phoenix guys are outa luck on that

So is your A/C disabled all the time or is it just at certain times?

I didn't read where it disables ur ur AC

So I would need to buy stage 2, stage 3, an exhaust, neutral balance shafts, high speed valve springs, and nitrous to reach the full potential of stage 3....

also the surge tank and 15 psi cap, plus all the fittings, hoses, clamps ect that does not come with this kit.

cool details for the install...



http://www.crateenginedepot.com/pdfs/s3ins.pdf

EVERYONE READ THIS!!!!

your all asking questions that are explained here.

EVERYONE READ THIS!!!!

your all asking questions that are explained here.


so does it disable the A/C????? :lol: I read it.


So what kinda damage am I looking at here $2,500 for everything to do this right.

umm arent you guys forgeting the there are controls in hptuners to disable your a/c. So all you'd have to do is hook hptuners up to it and enable the a/c again...

wet or dry shot? and can i run this without swapping pistons? thanks

i wonder if where ever gonna push the 300hp mark with out nitrous..i kinda disappointed with the kit only being able get to 260hp all motor..but that adjustable revlimit is cool

there are plenty of people reaching that number. you just gotta get shit done correctly. it isnt so much money that is holding anyone back. its mostly availability of performance parts

is that a GM document, or from CED?

this is actually looking kind of interesting. It's growin on me

to be honest it isn't a bad setup ... plug the custom computer when your going to the track then unplug it when you get back and keep warrenty ... at least thats the way it should work but whatever. plus when warrenty is gone add some juice to the mix and your over 300hp when you need it

http://www.crateenginedepot.com/store/images/88958719_large.jpg
I have posted up the Stage 3 kits as well as the Stage PCM's
Stage Kit Link Click Here (http://www.crateenginedepot.com/store/Cobalt-Stage-Kits-C196.aspx)

Details about the kits are found there.
Kits are in stock!!

they could at least include the tee for the dual pass in the kit I just priced one out today and my cost is $1260 Canadian.That is quite a bit for a pulley,Pcm and a dual pass plate.
I am sure a custom tune could do the same.:ca:

Do you have to run the dual pass if you run this stage 3 pcm?

There isn't something in the software that would make it necessary to run the dual pass right?

no but u Why wouldn't u want the dual bypass

no but u Why wouldn't u want the dual bypass

Well because I would rather just buy the PCM for $325.00 and just install a biger heat exchanger. I already have a 2.9" pulley so this tune would be perfect for me. All I need is the PCM. Better than spending over $700.00 for the whole thing when I only need the PCM. :twothumbs

What else do you need to install the dual pass?

What else do you need to install the dual pass?


You need the plate and eveything in this link.

http://www.crateenginedepot.com/store/category.aspx?SID=1&Category_ID=196&Page=2

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Intercooler End Plate Seal 12584355
Item #12584355
12584355 2-Pass Intercooler End Plate Seal
MSRP: $44.12 Your Price: $34.78

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Intercooler End Plate Seal 12584333
Item #12584333
12584333 2-Pass Intercooler End Plate Seal
MSRP: $26.30 Your Price: $20.15

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Cobalt Surge Tank 10368831
Item #10368831
10368831 Surge Tank
MSRP: $65.52 Your Price: $47.69

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Cobalt Surge Tank Cap 15# 15075118
Item #15075118
Cobalt Surge Tank Cap 15#
MSRP: $10.32 Your Price: $5.31

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Y Connector 84757
Item #84757
Y Connector 84757
MSRP: $9.90 Your Price: $7.25



Anything else?
Where does the Surge tank mount?

Where does the Surge tank mount?


Right here.

http://cobaltss.net/gallery/files/6/0/8/5/Cobaltsssc005_492004.jpg

you have to fab up soem brakets for it.

that sux, thats where my water/meth kit will go.

Well because I would rather just buy the PCM for $325.00 and just install a biger heat exchanger. I already have a 2.9" pulley so this tune would be perfect for me. All I need is the PCM. Better than spending over $700.00 for the whole thing when I only need the PCM. :twothumbs


but still with a big Heat Exchanger and the Dual Pass ur cooling system will work that much better. Still don't see Y u wouldn't want it

Do you think we really need to replace the o-ring seals on the endplate? I was gonna try to reuse mine when I modify my original endplate.

Do you think we really need to replace the o-ring seals on the endplate? I was gonna try to reuse mine when I modify my original endplate.


I would just to make sure.. they are only 20 and 30 dollars.. u might as well



and as far as switching between HOM and regular mode i think going through the DIC to change it would be a pain in the ass.. I would rather have a seperate controller like the Turbotoys on the SRT-4 that has a specific button for HOM. Unless GM made it where u hit the "i" button or return button a couple times or something

so with the nitrous.. are the stock plugs good, or do we need to swap those out? so i guess this motor can handle alot more power then most people think... with the 8k redline and the 50 shot.. i'm starting to wonder if the people who have blown up did so because of custom tunes.. by the sounds of this stage 3 pcm.. everything should be tuned just right for the 100 octane and nitrous.. should be able to push over 300hp easliy with that setup.

now i don't get the 260hp with 100 octane gas, who is driiving around on 100 octane and if thats all i'm getting is 15 more horsepower. where the heck do you get 100 octane or 93 for that matter they don't sell it around here!:thumbsdow

PS Not impressed with stage 3

now i don't get the 260hp with 100 octane gas, who is driiving around on 100 octane and if thats all i'm getting is 15 more horsepower. where the heck do you get 100 octane or 93 for that matter they don't sell it around here!:thumbsdow

PS Not impressed with stage 3

100 octane here and 93 octane but i don't know who wants to pay $5.00/gallon for 100 octane


Mopar's SRT-4 Stage 2 gets u 25 more hp and Stage 3 gets u 45 more hp.. those numbers are also achieved with the optional cat back exhaust

well i ordered one.. i guess i'll be one of the first.. who else is getting this?

now i don't get the 260hp with 100 octane gas, who is driiving around on 100 octane and if thats all i'm getting is 15 more horsepower. where the heck do you get 100 octane or 93 for that matter they don't sell it around here!:thumbsdow

PS Not impressed with stage 3


I agree too. I think GM kinda rushed the Idea. but whatever. I'll get the dual pass and all but not interested in Stage 3

but still with a big Heat Exchanger and the Dual Pass ur cooling system will work that much better. Still don't see Y u wouldn't want it

The thing is I don't beat on the car so I don't need all that cooling.

I big heat exchanger would be sufficient for 265-270whp.

It's just a daily driver for me that I get on when someone wants to race.
Maybe a few times a month. :twothumbs
So I could use that money for other things.

like the meth kit.

I think this is a cop out on GM's part and I am pretty disappointed in the kit.

They could have easily offered a 2.8 pulley, larger injectors, dual pass, a little more aggressive tune and kept the warranty.

Everyone may disagree with me, but I think the stage 3 stinks if you still have warranty left. It is nice if your warranty is up, but come one...310 horse with NOS??? Our pistons are getting nervous at that point and so is GM which is why they pussed out and didn't warranty it. Plus making a "kit" that requires extra parts to allow it to work to "full potential"..........CRAPPY!!! :thumbsdow

I think this is a cop out on GM's part and I am pretty disappointed in the kit.

They could have easily offered a 2.8 pulley, larger injectors, dual pass, a little more aggressive tune and kept the warranty.

Everyone may disagree with me, but I think the stage 3 stinks if you still have warranty left. It is nice if your warranty is up, but come one...310 horse with NOS??? Our pistons are getting nervous at that point and so is GM which is why they pussed out and didn't warranty it. Plus making a "kit" that requires extra parts to allow it to work to "full potential"..........CRAPPY!!! :thumbsdow

I'm with you man. That's why i'm not buying the whole stage kit.

I just want that bad ass PCM. $325.00 :guns:

1. New Air/Fuel
2. 100 Ocatne Tune
3. Nitrous capability through stock buttons

Yeah I know...and your right...those are nice, but...the rest of the kit... bad GM bad!!! Your bad...go to your room!