i've got zzp 2.9 +AEM CAI, the lucas #42's and tune aren't done yet. he is stock. who wins?

come on.... 12 views, and no input?

 

you fo sho!!

 

well your looking at him having atleast 275 hp and over 300 torque rwd etc

ide have to but my $ on the Z

 

any idea what they run in the 1/4 stock?

 

You for sure. When i worked at a performance shop a few years back i had a customer that had a 95-97 LT1 Z28 with a 6spd, FIPK, and Flow master cat-back and he ran 14.4@97mph all day at the track...he thought he would be a mid 13...he didn't even have the mph for that. Stock my SS/SC did 14.5@99mph. If you have upgrades and the Z28 is an Auto you will win.

Even in 98 when the LS1 was put into the F-Body they ran 13.9 at around 100-102mph with the 6 speed.

 

2.1 60' with stock tire pressure? nice run man

2 people say i win, 1 says i lose.. anyone else?

 

I dont know who would win, but I want to say they are high 13's to low 14's depending on driver skill and as far as the LS1's go, they were capable of mid 13's.

 

was there more than 1 motor available in the Z28? i dont know if they made an ss for that year, but i would imagine that that was the good motor.

I almost forgot... his is a convertible. isn't that heavier?

 

not a stock auto Z maybe the SS a 97 auto Z is more a mid 14 to even high 14 from my experiences

 

keep in mind that zzp 2.9 pulley makes 16 psi.. the tune and injectors will be goin in next weekend.
this guy is my G/F's cusin, and he was hatin on the cobalt when she was stock... so i think at the next family party i'll show him whats up

 

10$ on you if the drivers are equal. The 97 did have an ss, but it didnt make a whole lot more power. Auto conv Z28 vs 2.9, 42lbs and good tune, you for sure! I am gonna race a 98 vette auto, conv stock in a few weeks, think I can take him from a roll.

 

LS1's with auto tranny's shift quicker than people with manual tranny's. They do the car more justice. Im not 100% positive it is the same with the LT1, but I would assume so, although I may be wrong. Anyways I always refer to this site when wondering about 1/4 mile times as it seems to have been accurate for every car I have looked up. I know its accurate for the 3000GT VR-4 and the 3000GT SL and Base models as well. It is also on target for the C5 Corvette, and LOTS of other cars. Check out the cobalt as well. With this many accurate results and recently manufactured cars, I would think most all of the cars on this site are accurate. Check it out for future reference:

http://www.albeedigital.com/supercou...0-60times.html

As for the different engines, yeah, in 98 the trans am and z28's switched from the LT1 to the LS1 engines.

 

My good friend had a 1994 Z28 auto, with your mods it will be close, only becuase you are still running the stock injectors and no tune, get the gm stage 1 kit and that 2.9 with the AEM and you will take him no problem, dude you need injectors and tune ASAP, you could blow your car up if you continue running that setup, your injectors stock are not enough to handle a 3.1 pulley let alone a 2.9!

I have a 2.8" with 42lb injectors and i am risking it with that setup (IDC's over 100%) Dont race him til after your mods are done. but after you will win, will be close if it is from a dig, from a roll you will take him by like 5+ cars no problem

 

Ok....

Im a three time Z28 owner. So reading this thread is semi comical in a way.

First off, when you say 97ish are you talking 1997 or 1998?? BIG HUGE difference. Why? The 97 has a LT1 and the 98-02 has the all aluminum LS1 motor (roller motor) I owned one of those. The LT1 is a nice running motor though too.

When you say "stock" are you talking stock as in has a few bolt ons or not a thing done to it?

Because simply switching gear ratios (cheap) and some headers on a LT1 makes a big diffference as does alot of other "bolt ons" Z28 owners normally do.

If he has a upgraded stall converter on that auto trans you've already lost.... sorry but its true.

Other than that a TOTALLY stock LT1 (1993-1997) Z28 vs your SC Cobalt would make a decent race

Id put my money on the Z28 if I had to bet

*rep please for the info*

 

blackgloves, you stole the words right from my fingertips. an lt1 would be a pretty fair race, you would probably have an edge over him but you will be playing catch up for most of the track unless you manage to really hook (i have an ls, i don't know how well the ss's hook up) if its an ls1 you may still have a chance, not all ls1's are created equal. I had a 99 z28 for a while that was a pooch, there was nothing wrong with it, but it was just one of the slower ls1's. I've known a few other people with some that just don't run that well. ON the other hand there are some that flat out scream completely stock. I test drove an 00 ss which is really that much better in terms of power than a z28 but it was hands down one of the best running cars i've even driven. I have an 87 grand national running in the 12's and this stock ss would have gave it a very good run for its money.

take it to the track, race him, just don't put any money on it.

 

Stock LT1.. you will beat it.


but then again.. it depends on the drivers

 

I would have to say that you would have a damn good chance of beating him if you can drive. That is, if it's the LT1 which is pre-98 like previously mentioned. 98 and up had the LS1 and they are pretty sick especially with a good driver and some minor mods. I have a friend with a 98 with SLP cat-back and air box mod and he runs 13.7-13.8's all day long, but he's not a very competent driver. He likes to mash on the throttle and hope for the best. Another good friend has a 2000 Z28 with full exhaust, air box mod, and I believe a larger throttle body and he will run a low 13 to high 12 all day long. The LT1's are a low 14ish to very high 13 second car with no mods. The convertibles will run a bit slower, maybe low to mid 14's..Should be pretty close..

 

It depends on the car. It's true that not all Camaros or TAs were created equal. Parents had a 2002 TA that dynoed 340 rwhp and 380lb ft torque stock. Turns out they had a LS6 longblock bored out to LS1 specs...I guess that's what was laying around in the factory that day?

 

the ls1 and ls6 are the same block the only difference between the 2 are the intake, heads , and cam. The intake was on the 01's and 02's. So have that block would not give you any extra power

 

Actually, I think the later build 02's came with the ls6 block. Same with Camaro's if I am correct.

 

your almost right. towards the end of production in 02 gm ran out of ls1 heads, but had spare ls6 heads. The number of cars that got the ls6 heads isn't known but its a decent number from what i've heard. I also heard that all the police camaros had the ls6 heads but i don't know if thats true or not, i would have to doubt it honestly.

the heads flow much better and have larger valves.

even aside from the late 02's with those heads

 

The 93-97 was the lt1 and the 98-02 was the ls1. You should beat the lt1 but good luck w/a ls1.

 

by "stock" i really meant stock.. as in, the same as when it came off the lot.


i seriously dont know what year.. it looks 97ish.. i didnt know that there was such a difference in the 97-98s.. was there a body style change? if so its a 97 or before

so that was the body style change, in 98? it's definitly 97 or before then

 

nevermind

 

Okay,

I use to own a 95 TA with pretty much the same set up. even though the SS/SC is a ******' fast car i don't think your gonna win this one. Straight from the factory he's starting out with 275HP and 325 TQ. nevermind all the BS about it being an auto, he'll still beat you. though it might be close. Never raced an SS/SC with the TA. Go for it and then we'll know for sure.