Ok, so since before the 2.4l SS came out, and after it came out, I kinda pictured it almost like the SVT Focus of the Cobalt world. I'm assuming it's pretty quick with the hp and torque it's putting out, but I'd really just like to know how it handles. So I'm hoping someone on here has ripped it around some turns, and can let me know how it does.

Ok, so since before the 2.4l SS came out, and after it came out, I kinda pictured it almost like the SVT Focus of the Cobalt world. I'm assuming it's pretty quick with the hp and torque it's putting out, but I'd really just like to know how it handles. So I'm hoping someone on here has ripped it around some turns, and can let me know how it does.

I think it handles pretty well. It doesn't have a suspension as good as the supercharged model, but it is still a far better suspension then the base and LS versions.

I have ripped it around some corners for sure, and it way outhandles my old alero (with lowering springs, low profile tires, and KYB struts) and it seems to handle better, or at least with more confidence, then my 96 Y87 Camaro.

I love the handling.

I hope they handle well. I have heard that they do. I'll let you know next week.

the 1 i test drove rode , and handled great


1st thing id do is change the tires though the 205/50/17's do not fit the wheels very well , the side walls are streched , a good 225 or 235/45/17 or a 245/40/17 will be alot better and fit the rims better


and that will help out in the corners alot more

the 1 i test drove rode , and handled great


1st thing id do is change the tires though the 205/50/17's do not fit the wheels very well , the side walls are streched , a good 225 or 235/45/17 or a 245/40/17 will be alot better and fit the rims better


and that will help out in the corners alot more
i dont know anything about tire size. what do those numbers mean? how will the new tires fit better? I thought that if the tires were on the wheels then they fit.

the over all width of the 205/50/17's are wrong for the width of the wheels


the 205 is the width , and the sides wall kinda resemble this ^ , with the peak being the tread


the width of the tire should be atleast the width of the wheel , which the stock tires arent


its hard to expalin , but go look at the tires on the SS/SC wheels , then look at the 2.4SS , and youll understand what i mean

The 205 is in mm which is tread width and the 50 is the aspect ratio or 50% of the tread width which makes up the height of the side wall. the "R" stands for radial and of course the 17 is the rim diameter. So by getting a 245/40R 17 the tire would be a little bit wider and similar in height since the aspect ratio is a smaller percentage. Hope this helps.

i agree the car really needs a decent tire but i run a 245 and 285 on my mustang and it has 8inch wide rims.. i'm pretty sure these rims are only 6.5 inches wide. so id say u can't go much over 225 althought a nice sumer 225/45/17 would handle soo much better then an all season tire.

ahh cool, so then the rims are more acceptable to being cratched on curbs with the stock tires? or is t just for performance, traction?
btw thanks for clearing things up!

the rims are very easy to curb check the way they are


i think the rims might be 17x7 , but that could be the streched side wall making it look that way too , LOL

the rims are very easy to curb check the way they are


i think the rims might be 17x7 , but that could be the streched side wall making it look that way too , LOL

6.5 wide

6.5 wide


gotta love GM and the odd ball stuff they do , LOL

I have gone 110 mph in mine so far and it handles great. Not sure when governor kicks in.

I don't think the SS has a govenor

Ok, so since before the 2.4l SS came out, and after it came out, I kinda pictured it almost like the SVT Focus of the Cobalt world. I'm assuming it's pretty quick with the hp and torque it's putting out, but I'd really just like to know how it handles. So I'm hoping someone on here has ripped it around some turns, and can let me know how it does.


Don't worry. Your SVTF will outhandle both SS'. I know from personal experience.

Don't worry. Your SVTF will outhandle both SS'. I know from personal experience.

:rolleyes: the SVT Focus is the best car ever built, no one should ever try to build a better car:rolleyes:

RocktheSVT - the 2.4SS is going to be similar to the SVT Focus, it will not handle quite as well, but it will be faster. We keep hearing phxss talk about his svt tq at 2200rpm, but if he looked, the 2.4 produces more torque at a lower rpm then that. plus there is the proven track record of a regular 2.2l ecotec.

My job is driving used cars of all shapes, sizes, powers, trims, etc. I think some people will be surprised by the potential of the 2.4. It is no S/C 2.0L, but it isn't to be forgotten either.

Haha, good one mikeSS. damn, that sarcasm was so strong it about knowcked me over... lol. go SS go!

:rolleyes: the SVT Focus is the best car ever built, no one should ever try to build a better car:rolleyes:
^^:barf:^^

:rolleyes: the SVT Focus is the best car ever built, no one should ever try to build a better car:rolleyes:

RocktheSVT - the 2.4SS is going to be similar to the SVT Focus, it will not handle quite as well, but it will be faster. We keep hearing phxss talk about his svt tq at 2200rpm, but if he looked, the 2.4 produces more torque at a lower rpm then that. plus there is the proven track record of a regular 2.2l ecotec.

My job is driving used cars of all shapes, sizes, powers, trims, etc. I think some people will be surprised by the potential of the 2.4. It is no S/C 2.0L, but it isn't to be forgotten either.


Ok, what is the torque of the 2.4 @2200 rpm?

BTW, stop getting your panties in a wad. I'm not talking bad about the 2.4..I'm just saying it won't perform any better in stock form than a SVTF.

i still havent seen a svtf run 15's with out alot of work , ive out ran plenty of svtf's in my cav with a auto and beat them even worse in my g/fs eco cav 5spd , ive ran a 15.4 in her cav with just a intake


im not hating just saying my exp against them


they do ride nice , and the svtf have some nice seats , but 1/4 mile cars they arent


im still going with low 15's for the 2.4 cobalt once broken in

i still havent seen a svtf run 15's with out alot of work , ive out ran plenty of svtf's in my cav with a auto and beat them even worse in my g/fs eco cav 5spd , ive ran a 15.4 in her cav with just a intake


im not hating just saying my exp against them


they do ride nice , and the svtf have some nice seats , but 1/4 mile cars they arent


im still going with low 15's for the 2.4 cobalt once broken in


"plenty" of svtf's? Dudue, there only a little over 10k made in three years combined. And for two no way in hell is an ATX cavy gonna beat an svtf. That's a joke, unless the guy missed a gear. i used to own one..I know better.

Ok, what is the torque of the 2.4 @2200 rpm?

BTW, stop getting your panties in a wad. I'm not talking bad about the 2.4..I'm just saying it won't perform any better in stock form than a SVTF.

Sorry, I wasn't trying to angry about it, its just the SVT never seemed to live up to its potential in my opinion.

2.2 makes 151hp at 2200-2300, it is hard to read the GM dyno graph.

As well, GM is using that new SAE Standard to rate its engines performance, that is why this engine is 171, and the G6 has it at 167, and the new 5.3L V8 is 303. I was wondering if the SVT would be rated any lower in the new system, or if GM's 2.4 would be rated any higher with the old system? No clue, just wondering.

I'm not trying to cause controversy or anything, but my girlfriend is still trying to get the 2.4SS, so I was just wondering how they handled. I'm more into handling than going fast in a straight line. And about not seeing a SVT focus run in the 15's without some work, I ran 15.9 stock, and 15.5 as is, both runs with the traction control on, so my launches sucked. I've seen people run 15.6 stock.
And yeah I figured the 2.4's would be quicker than my car stock for stock, as the hp rating is the same and the torque rating is higher.
Also, do the 2.4SS's have tall gearing like the SVT's? They look like they would make a fun autox car.

I'm not trying to cause controversy or anything, but my girlfriend is still trying to get the 2.4SS, so I was just wondering how they handled. I'm more into handling than going fast in a straight line. And about not seeing a SVT focus run in the 15's without some work, I ran 15.9 stock, and 15.5 as is, both runs with the traction control on, so my launches sucked. I've seen people run 15.6 stock.
And yeah I figured the 2.4's would be quicker than my car stock for stock, as the hp rating is the same and the torque rating is higher.
Also, do the 2.4SS's have tall gearing like the SVT's? They look like they would make a fun autox car.


Not sure if it is tall or not, but here is my findings

1st gear - 50KM/H-ish
2nd gear - 100KM/H-ish
3rd gear - 140KM/H-ish
4th gear - Haven't had the balls to read line it yet, I have been to 185KM/H with lots left still.

thats with the auto right? becaus last time i checked the manual had 5 gears ;) correct me if im wrong, and if someone does have a manual SS 2.4, any top speed test or 0-60 times are welcome haha

thats with the auto right? becaus last time i checked the manual had 5 gears ;) correct me if im wrong, and if someone does have a manual SS 2.4, any top speed test or 0-60 times are welcome haha


that is the 5-speed, I have it but 5th gear will not take a car that much faster then 4th gear. the final gear in a tranny is a overdrive gear for road driving.

the ss's handle very well , and if its not quite enough you can put the ss/sc bar on the front cause it is bigger than the 2.4ss's bar


and phxss , ive ran 15.9's and 16.0's in my auto 2.4 cav , and the only focus or svt that has beat me at the track was using nitrous , none of the svts or zx3 or 5's have all been mid 16's at best in street trim , ive seen a few fully gutted 1's break into the 15's

the are a good car , but like i said 1/4 mile cars they are not

No, they are not 1/4 mile cars. But they are also not mid 16 sec cars. The automatic Zetec's w/130hp run low-mid 16's..But svt's do not run that slow unless the drver is a total noob. I believe that you have seen people svt's run those horrid times, but I'm telling you, that's not the norm. I never took my svtf to the track, but I have hung with Spec V's (175hp/180tq), GSR's, and other low-mid 15 sec cars from a dig, and all I had was an intake and TB.

Yeah, the SVT is definetly not a quarter mile car, but as long as you can drive it right, it's a mid 15 second car. I've seen lots of people run mid 16's in them, but that could happen with any car with a bad driver. I've seen people who know how to drive them do mid 15's stock, and sport compact car claimed they were running 15.3 stock without the traction control. The traction control is the biggest reason it's hard to run it in the quarter mile. Sorry, I got off topic.

^^ yes, and that damned lazy-ass first gear is really irritating in light to light driving.

LOL , i really hate doing all this in the improper fourm

so i think if a mod wants to split it off , i wouldnt mind


in all honesty , ive seen alot of focus guys at the track , even hung out with a few , 1 guy had a ZX3 with intake , tb header back exhaust , light weight wheels , slicks/drag radials(not sure which) 1 seat , and nothing for interior , except a rollbar , he never got better than a 15.9 most of his passes were closer to a mid 16's , which really suprised all of us that were there


and i will say ive only seen a few svtf's at the track , but none of them have been in the 15's , and none of the 1's i lined up against me beat me time wise , and my 97 has ranged from a worste of 16.8 and a best of 15.9 all n/a , my 00 has run a best of 16.0 n/a

my 00 will be at firebird friday night , its first time at the track with s/c boost , ill be more than willing to race any svtf's that show up , my g/fs cav should be out there also , and its n/a


and im taking all the stuff ive been saying from my experence here from , firebird and speedworld


as far as racing a car from a roll , and ive never believed in racing from a roll because it is not a true test of the cars power

racing from a roll is much safer for the car though... to many things can break from a dead stop... plus you have to factor in rt's and such... either way is fine by me, i'm just saying

its the lack of traction , to sudden traction that kills parts


and ive raced a freinds 63 nova with a 430 hp small block that ran mid 12's , against my 68 elcamino that never bested a 14.0 due to traction , with about the same hp from a 50 mph roll and we stayed fender to fender to about 130


also reaction time doesnt count against your 1/4 time , the clock doesnt start tell you break the beam , and im not worried about reaction times , or redlights , im talking actual ET's

also reaction time doesnt count against your 1/4 time , the clock doesnt start tell you break the beam , and im not worried about reaction times , or redlights , im talking actual ET's


LOL, so many people still believe a RT affects you 1/4 mile time, I don't get it.

LOL , i really hate doing all this in the improper fourm

so i think if a mod wants to split it off , i wouldnt mind


in all honesty , ive seen alot of focus guys at the track , even hung out with a few , 1 guy had a ZX3 with intake , tb header back exhaust , light weight wheels , slicks/drag radials(not sure which) 1 seat , and nothing for interior , except a rollbar , he never got better than a 15.9 most of his passes were closer to a mid 16's , which really suprised all of us that were there


and i will say ive only seen a few svtf's at the track , but none of them have been in the 15's , and none of the 1's i lined up against me beat me time wise , and my 97 has ranged from a worste of 16.8 and a best of 15.9 all n/a , my 00 has run a best of 16.0 n/a

my 00 will be at firebird friday night , its first time at the track with s/c boost , ill be more than willing to race any svtf's that show up , my g/fs cav should be out there also , and its n/a




and im taking all the stuff ive been saying from my experence here from , firebird and speedworld


as far as racing a car from a roll , and ive never believed in racing from a roll because it is not a true test of the cars power



If I still had my svtf, I'd take it to the track aginst your gf's cavy anytime! Guaranteed victory.

too much crap about the focus. lets get back to GM or this thread is dead.

i'm glad to hear good feedback on this. ever since i heard about the cobalt i've been obsessed with it, and now that i'm probably gonna get the 2.4 ss, i can't sleep... :cssNET:

Well, my focus runs, and has always ran, 15's all day long. And I have the timeslips if you wanna see them.

Anyway, I'm going down tommorow to test drive a 2.4SS, and I'll post back and let you guys know what I think about it.

rockthesvt , i dont doubt your slips , im going with all of the cars from here , and i do not go with corrected times

gotta remember i live in the land of hell , even though we do have great winter time racing


if you were closer id say lets get together for some fun


but i do agree we need to get back on topic

Well, my focus runs, and has always ran, 15's all day long. And I have the timeslips if you wanna see them.

Anyway, I'm going down tommorow to test drive a 2.4SS, and I'll post back and let you guys know what I think about it.


What's the verdict?

The verdict is that the salesmen is an asshole. He pulled the same thing he pulled last time I was there "oh yeah you can test drive it"...10 seconds later "oh hold on there's a customer, you'll have to come back some other time, sorry." I mean, what the fuck, I'm a potential customer too right! Oh wait, I'm only 21, so they arent gonna take a kid seriously.