View Full Version : Tutle Wax - Ice Liquid Clay Bar
CobaltSS[303] 05-03-2007, 08:56 AM Ok i have heard about the clay bar kit before, but has anyone used this one? Correct me if im wrong but this is a liquid, i thought the clay bar was like a "bar" that you rub on th paint to get the scrathes out and other stuff. Is the clay bar kit only in liquid form?
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s262/jerrenkjar/LiquidClayBar.jpg
06VRCoupe 05-03-2007, 10:27 AM I bought it, and I used the ICE polish afterwards. It worked really nice. I did it one saturday, forgot to get pics on sunday, and it rained on monday! Just my luck huh!?! I'll clean her again and take pics when I'm done.
It does work really nice though!
Clay doesnt remove scratches but can cause marring in the process if used incorrectly. It removes contanminents imbedded in the clearcoat. Make sure you get a quality one that is good. some are pretty abrasive.
oldsskool 05-03-2007, 10:40 AM I dont understand, do you still use a clay bar with this product? or do you apply and remove it like a traditional polish/wax?
the clay bar is just exactly what it sounds like. Its a soft bar of clay which requires you use to use soap and water( which I dont recccomend) or it comes with a spray lubricant. That advertisement I see says it removes scratches and swirls which is completely wrong. That spray probably has fillers in it which may look like it doing that but as soon as youn wash again, theyll return.
oldsskool 05-03-2007, 11:05 AM I know what a clay bar is, I used the Mothers/Meguiers on my car, however just wondering what this product is in particular...
JimmiLS05 05-03-2007, 11:06 AM I will have to look into this, I already use the wax and am impressed with the results and I as well waxed on Saturday with rain on Monday...grrr
matt_SS_205 05-03-2007, 11:07 AM I used this product you are asking about, and it did NOTHING for my paint, in my opinion it's a waste off money.
M-Dub 05-03-2007, 11:08 AM Yes a "CLAY BAR" is exactly that, a bar of clay that you use a instant detailer spray for lube, and rub it over the cars surface to remove surface contaminates, and leave a smooth surface for polishing afterwards! I have used the "ICE" wax and it is horrible, stick with a real clay bar man, it's actually very easy to use, I used Mothers California Gold Clay Bar Kit, it was 15.00 at any auto parts stores! And then wax as usual afterwards and it looks great!http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s149/mdub25200/Picture128.jpg
There is my car after the Clay Bar, and Meguiars NXT Paste Wax!
refosterIV 05-03-2007, 11:09 AM I didn't think you were supposed to use a clay bar on a clearcoat?
M-Dub 05-03-2007, 11:11 AM Uh, yeah you are! That is how you remove contaminates from the clear coat! The dealerships to it all the time!
IMO if you ask me Clay magic or Sonus are the 2 best clay bars.
LaserblueSS 05-03-2007, 11:17 AM I had always wondered what that ICE stuff was. If it doesnt come with a clay bar, then it shouldnt be called a clay bar kit. is that false advertisement somehow? anywho, I used the meguires clay bar kit and worked WONDERS for my car. it was ridiculous how smooth the surface was. i rubbed my hand over my door panel (where i had not clay bar'd yet) and then i ran my hand across the hood (which was freshly clay bard and waxed!) and the difference was incredible!
TheDriver! 05-03-2007, 11:27 AM I don't know about the Turtle wax liquid clay bar but thier ICE polish is awsome!!! My friends black SRT4 came out better then when he bought it!! Leaves a very nice wet look..
And if you use a real clay bar, make sure you know how to use it!! :twothumbs
CobaltSS[303] 05-03-2007, 12:09 PM Yea, thanks for all the input. I was curious though if it was a bar of clay. I think im gonna use a real clay bar. From my understanding, not sure if im right but a clay bar kit can take the swirl marks out of your paint? I hate those. I want them gone.
;1021292']Yea, thanks for all the input. I was curious though if it was a bar of clay. I think im gonna use a real clay bar. From my understanding, not sure if im right but a clay bar kit can take the swirl marks out of your paint? I hate those. I want them gone.
No a clay bar will NOT take swirls out, you need to polish to get swirls out.
CobaltSS[303] 05-03-2007, 03:28 PM So if i just use some polish it will take the swirls out? is a clay bar just to basicly condition your clearcoat and make it smooth and shiny?
;1021659']So if i just use some polish it will take the swirls out? is a clay bar just to basicly condition your clearcoat and make it smooth and shiny?
yes, it takes contaminants out to clean what regular washing cannot get. It also helps as prep work for waxing and polishing so that you dont wax or polish the contaminants and create more swirls.
M-Dub 05-03-2007, 03:41 PM if you use a random orbital buffer, that doesn't go in the same direction all the time, with a good polish it will remove "SWIRLS"
IMO if you ask me Clay magic or Sonus are the 2 best clay bars. Clay magic is friggin awesome by the way!
oldsskool 05-03-2007, 03:41 PM Use the clay bar, and then grab like Mothers or Meguiers 3 step waxing kit. Step 1 is a paint cleaner, Step 2 is a polish, Step 3 is a wax. Worked wonders on my balt
CobaltSS[303] 05-03-2007, 04:00 PM and it takes all the swirls out? with the 3 stage kit thing
Ya if you use clay and are gonna use a fine polish or an abrasive polish, use a pre wax cleaner too, itll catch the crap the clay wont get. Depending on how bad your marring/swirls are will depend on the type of polish you need.
The Liquid claybar is more like a solid sponge with a chemical mix that you use instead of solid clay. Hence why it removes swirls and scratches, I bought one yesterday on a whim but havent tried it yet. If I remember to Ill post up before and after shots.
REIGN SS 04-02-2008, 08:51 AM Its a "decent" product, does a pretty good job at removing grime. Alot of detailers complaint with the TW Ice is the fact that it doesn't last very long, take that as you wish. I personally use there detail spray and I think it works great. I've used the liquid claybar, & it doesn't do as good as an actual claybar it does do a decent job.
PS moved to Show & Shine
rocco11189 04-02-2008, 11:07 AM So what do you guys suggest as a polish to remove swirls?
Mr McCabe 04-02-2008, 12:09 PM I have a bottle of the stuff and I loved it when I had my Cavalier. I found that it worked great but it was messy as hell. Once you use the liquid clay bar you need to rewash the car again. Good product but just as time consuming as a true clay bar.
Texas SS 04-02-2008, 12:36 PM Yes a "CLAY BAR" is exactly that, a bar of clay that you use a instant detailer spray for lube, and rub it over the cars surface to remove surface contaminates, and leave a smooth surface for polishing afterwards! I have used the "ICE" wax and it is horrible, stick with a real clay bar man, it's actually very easy to use, I used Mothers California Gold Clay Bar Kit, it was 15.00 at any auto parts stores! And then wax as usual afterwards and it looks great!http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s149/mdub25200/Picture128.jpg
There is my car after the Clay Bar, and Meguiars NXT Paste Wax!
damn man looks really good
Turbo Wax 04-02-2008, 04:16 PM My 0.02 If I may :)
The NEW generation of clay bars that you will start to see more and more
Turbo Wax Bug / oxidation remover can be used to quickly and safely remove bonded contaminants, dropping and insect grime from automotive finishes. For automotive paint finishes, this product has the same function and environmentally safety as clay-based stain removers.
The value and benefits:
1)Just use with water, no need to buy other tool or special detergents for rigid stain.
2)Reduce over half time of removing contaminants: Use friendly and it is very easy and quick to remove dropping, insect grime and containments, which bonded on paint finish and only operate with water.
3)Extra value: This product also has same function of clay based and polish when use properly, Will work better than any clay bar.
4)Environmentally friendly: Just use with water and decrease water pollution.
5)Long lifespan of product: At least wash 20 to 35 times in properly use and store.
From another post
Today during a detail job I took a break to play around, here's the mother of all over sprays, the car sits in a yard next to a marine paint booth, what you see in the roof is overspray, the entire roof is FULL of it, actually the entire car, or what’s left of it, I was able to remove 99% of it with our bug and oxidation remover, it really did an awesome job, after that I use our swirl remover, pre wax and wax I did use the Porter Cable Machine.
Sample with it
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Caly Bar in General
Clay is a mixture of clay base and various mild abrasives. Clay along with a clay lubricant is used to remove paint contamination. Road grime, tar, bugs, rust, tree sap and even paint overspray can be removed with a clay bar.
Clay bars differ in color and density but what is most important, type and amount of abrasive particles they contain. All clay bars will be labeled from "mild" to "strong" abrasive quality. Claying does not remove the clear coat of the paint but can cause marring or dullness if used incorrectly.
When using a clay bar sufficient lubrication must be present to avoid scratching the paint. It takes a few passes of clay to feel the difference on the surface of the paint. To evaluate the effectiveness of claying dry the area and assess the paint and the bar. The paint should become slick to touch. The clay bar used should be turning gray. If the clay bar is dropped it must be discarded.
The clay bar should be folded over frequently to expose clean surface. Claying does not replace polishing/wax. It is a part of a process.
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