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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 05:52 PM
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Summit cancelled my K&N typhoon intake order today

Ive been waiting for weeks and finally got too impatient and had to call . Summit was supposed to get their shipment of the SS intakes this past weekend and they did not . Tech rep called K&N and was told that they are not accepting orders for this intake anymore due to a delay without a timeline . So Summit cancelled my order and refunded my card . Does anybody know what the hell is going on with this intake ? Right now I dont know whether to wait on it because maybe they feel their design was compromised and their improving it over the other intakes on the market or just go with something else already . Is their problems with the pcm down the line ? bout ready to just say fug it and go with the AEM intake . I mean its just a mandrel bent pipe and filter , so long as its one piece and the gains are their ....I dont need the K&N name .

Anyone know whats goin on ?
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverSS/SC
Ive been waiting for weeks and finally got too impatient and had to call . Summit was supposed to get their shipment of the SS intakes this past weekend and they did not . Tech rep called K&N and was told that they are not accepting orders for this intake anymore due to a delay without a timeline . So Summit cancelled my order and refunded my card . Does anybody know what the hell is going on with this intake ? Right now I dont know whether to wait on it because maybe they feel their design was compromised and their improving it over the other intakes on the market or just go with something else already . Is their problems with the pcm down the line ? bout ready to just say fug it and go with the AEM intake . I mean its just a mandrel bent pipe and filter , so long as its one piece and the gains are their ....I dont need the K&N name .

Anyone know whats goin on ?
If I'm not mistaken the news item announcing the release of the intake for the Cobalt has also been removed...maybe K&N has run into a few unforseen problems or there's a shortage of parts who knows. It could also be...as you said...that they felt the needed to re-design it though I'm confused how a piece of 3" pipe and a filter could require that many re-designs to get it right .

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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 06:28 PM
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Hmm, i'll try to look into it. i have no clue, but it sucks man. let us know what you decide.
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 06:29 PM
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I'm not sure why K&N would go thru all of that, unless once they got a first article sample part and installed the kit and found some problems. Maybe they were throwing check engine lights???

Our kit is in the hands of the manufacturing department and is on its way to being made.
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Roger@AEM
I'm not sure why K&N would go thru all of that, unless once they got a first article sample part and installed the kit and found some problems. Maybe they were throwing check engine lights???

Our kit is in the hands of the manufacturing department and is on its way to being made.
Does this include only the 2.0L or is there one in the works for the 2.2L as well ?

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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by SilverSS/SC
Ive been waiting for weeks and finally got too impatient and had to call . Summit was supposed to get their shipment of the SS intakes this past weekend and they did not . Tech rep called K&N and was told that they are not accepting orders for this intake anymore due to a delay without a timeline . So Summit cancelled my order and refunded my card . Does anybody know what the hell is going on with this intake ? Right now I dont know whether to wait on it because maybe they feel their design was compromised and their improving it over the other intakes on the market or just go with something else already . Is their problems with the pcm down the line ? bout ready to just say fug it and go with the AEM intake . I mean its just a mandrel bent pipe and filter , so long as its one piece and the gains are their ....I dont need the K&N name .

Anyone know whats goin on ?
Summit wasn't the one who cancelled your order. K&N did. K&N is NOT releasing the product until further notice. Problems. AND if you check your credit card, Summit shouldn't have even charged you yet. They never bill your credit card until shipment. Maybe you are a new customer. If you don't need the K&N name, there are plenty of other aftermarket parts for you.
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Roger@AEM
I'm not sure why K&N would go thru all of that, unless once they got a first article sample part and installed the kit and found some problems. Maybe they were throwing check engine lights???

Our kit is in the hands of the manufacturing department and is on its way to being made.

are you guys doing a different style filter ??

i was at dc saturday , and they mentioned something different was being done


and ive been hearing alot that the oil like k&n uses is causing problems with the MAF sensor , as some of you all have noticed codes due to the MAF , and GM not warrenting them because of a oiled filter


and roger , say hello to damon for me , you guys used my g/fs eco cav , and dc used her cav and my cav for headers , her cav is red with the flames on it , my name is eric
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 09:52 PM
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They are probably having check engine light problems... hhhhmmm almost sounds like K&Ns Redline CAI ?

I have AEMs prototype on my car and it runs like a champ !
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Old Sep 20, 2005 | 11:46 PM
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my auto tech teacher was a chevrolet mechanic for 12 years and he told us that, yes more air is coming in, but more dirt also and so the CEL doesnt come on at first but eventually it well and he said that if a technician sees a K&N filter they will void the engine part of your warrenty immediately. he said that GM basically hates K&N filters because the life of the engine is greatly decreased or something like that.
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 97cavie24ls
are you guys doing a different style filter ??

i was at dc saturday , and they mentioned something different was being done
Yes, we are now shipping all of our intake with a Dry Filter. NO MORE OIL!

It also filters better, with the same performance advantage of an oiled filter, and you only have to clean and dry it. No messing with oil any more!

http://trucks.aempower.com/press_eve...ail.asp?aid=54

I'll smack Damon for you.....he sits next to me!

I would expect AEM to be in production with the Cobalt SS intake in about a month and a half to two months.

The 2.2L Cobalt intake should be done and available. I'd have to check to see if we have shipped any out lately.
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Z06Kat
my auto tech teacher was a chevrolet mechanic for 12 years and he told us that, yes more air is coming in, but more dirt also and so the CEL doesnt come on at first but eventually it well and he said that if a technician sees a K&N filter they will void the engine part of your warrenty immediately. he said that GM basically hates K&N filters because the life of the engine is greatly decreased or something like that.
They will not void the engine warrenty.

It's illegal to do so.
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Roger@AEM
The 2.2L Cobalt intake should be done and available. I'd have to check to see if we have shipped any out lately.
Looks like it is available on the AEM site, price is $327.00USD and it's listed as "New release". It's then listed on Grava at $259.99USD...I'm conused .

I also don't see any information on it though as far as expected increases, pictures or dynos...I would assume it's somewhere in the same ballpark as the Injen intake but I wouldn't mind seeing pics of it on the official site before I consider looking into it . I'm also wondering if it is similar to the Injen in that it can convert between a CAI and a SRI? I think I'm still nervous about my filter hanging near the ground when there's so much salt and snow on the roads here in the wniter.

Thanks,

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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Z06Kat
my auto tech teacher was a chevrolet mechanic for 12 years and he told us that, yes more air is coming in, but more dirt also and so the CEL doesnt come on at first but eventually it well and he said that if a technician sees a K&N filter they will void the engine part of your warrenty immediately. he said that GM basically hates K&N filters because the life of the engine is greatly decreased or something like that.

I do not know about that because I talked to a Chevy deler tecnition( the one that fixed my CEL P0171 and saied that the stock filter is getting redsigned because it flexes too much.
When I asked him about if putting on a K&N he said that it would not VOID my warrenty. The only reasion that it would void is because of too much oil. If you put a filter on right out of the box then you will be OK.
I think the bottem line hear is do not beleve everything a tercher tells you. They might have old news or do not know for sure what is going on. You can also learn form experence. This is not to say that teachers aren't the shLt but that there are not the finnal rule.
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ExHondaMan
They are probably having check engine light problems... hhhhmmm almost sounds like K&Ns Redline CAI ?

I have AEMs prototype on my car and it runs like a champ !
Do you know when AEM is going to release the intake for the SS S/C?
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 01:25 PM
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Just talked to K&N...

..and I told the fellow to find out what is really happening. After`a few minutes he came back saying the news release that ended up being pulled was a mistake in the first place.
He also says that there "will be" an intake but "NOT" soon. Still being "designed"
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 01:39 PM
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Do you know when AEM is going to release the intake for the SS S/C?
I said above, probably a month and a half to two months.
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Permafried-
Looks like it is available on the AEM site, price is $327.00USD and it's listed as "New release". It's then listed on Grava at $259.99USD...I'm conused .
We list the MSRP on the website. You should only see lower prices than that from shops.

Expected power increases is 4 hp and 5 ft-lbs over stock.
It is a two piece intake for the 2.2L Cobalt
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 01:52 PM
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wether the filter is factory oiled , or you over oiled


if it is DIRECT CAUSE OF THE FAILURE , they can and will deny your warrenty claim for the effected part

in this case the MAF sensor , you use a oiled style air filter , and your MAF goes out , guess what your paying for it


now having a oiled after market air filter , can not be the cause of a failure of your rear shocks (just a example) , the dealer can not tell you that your warrenty is void , and they will not cover your rear shocks


that is where that warrenty act will come into play


roger@aem , LOL sounds good smack away

and i didnt want to say the type of filter incase it was trade secret still , LOL


i can say with all the companies ive dealt with AEM has been the best
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Z06Kat
my auto tech teacher was a chevrolet mechanic for 12 years and he told us that, yes more air is coming in, but more dirt also and so the CEL doesnt come on at first but eventually it well and he said that if a technician sees a K&N filter they will void the engine part of your warrenty immediately. he said that GM basically hates K&N filters because the life of the engine is greatly decreased or something like that.

OK, #1, GM document ID# 1587795 "Automatic transmission shift, Engine driveability concerns or Service engine soon light on (SES) as a result of the Use of an EXCESSIVELY/OVER-OILED Aftermarket, Reusable air filter", states that if a oiled aftermarket filter is found that the repair to the MAF sensor will not be covered by warrenty, but also states in bold print ,"the use of an aftermarket reusable air filter DOES NOT void the vehicles warranty. #2, Auto Tech instuctors are instuctors for a reason and it's not because the know everything or because the pay is way better. Yes, more air is entering the engine, but more dirt? No, the oil is there because it attracts dirt and dust, like a magnet. Oil bath air filters have been around alot longer than you think and are in use on off-road equipment that are in the dustest of conditions.
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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Roger@AEM
We list the MSRP on the website. You should only see lower prices than that from shops.

Expected power increases is 4 hp and 5 ft-lbs over stock.
It is a two piece intake for the 2.2L Cobalt
Thanks Roger much appreciated .

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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by victory_red_SS
..and I told the fellow to find out what is really happening. After`a few minutes he came back saying the news release that ended up being pulled was a mistake in the first place.
He also says that there "will be" an intake but "NOT" soon. Still being "designed"
In response to an email to Gravana the response was totally different. See following thread https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...6196#post66196
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