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Just thought you guys might want to know. :mrgreen:

 

Cool. Should help the intercooler as well then I guess.

 

does anyone know any idea's of the quater mile for cobalt ss... i was thinking and hoping it would forsure be in the 14's

 

ive heard a projected 14.7 or something like that from an engineer that designed the car...some interview i read somewhere.

 

Car and Driver and Road and Track have run 14.7 with the Ion Redline. Sport Compact Car ran a 15.3, but obviously they suck. I think a guy on another forum was running around 14.7 as well.

 

the ion redline has achieved a 14.5 in stock form, the cobalt will have different gearing and supposedly be heavier, but the gearing should make up for it. i assume there won't be too much of a difference

 

http://www.aempower.com/pdf/dyno/22-...%20Redline.pdf


small gain in hp looks like atleast 4hp throughout the whole power band and peak at almost 7hp, the car is still building power past the rev limiter cant wait to see the gm stage 1 upgrade w/ increase rev limiter. nice. tq is also verry nice gain looks like about 5tq gain throughout the power band w/ peak of 8.4 2500 rpm. nice. cant wait to see an exhaust or header for it. and ecu tuning.

 

i've got a header on the way, and it's supported by a 15% increase in HP, we'll hope that holds true. i guess it was VERY impressive though

 

is it the one on the redline forum that is a 1 time deal? did they ever provide dyno sheets?

 

Thats a good gain for a CAI, smoothens out the torque curve too. Looks like a bolt ons may really open up some power, especially if stage 1 with a higher redline becomes available.

 

its a shortram not a cold air, which i find no significant difference between the two cuz when your driving the air in the engine compartment is moving so the cool air is coming in so i find no difference between the two. unless your dynoing.

 

Cool, short rams are easier and you have to worry less about puddles and such anyways. Thanks for the info.

 

yes it is, no dyno sheet, and i believe as of now it is a one time deal until production begins in-house for them. that could be a while. but with purchase, you are guaranteed 50% off any future upgrades to the product, so a new header becomes available that gains more HP, you get 50% off that one. also, after a dyno he's getting next week, if the results are favorable, he's putting a 15% hp increase guarantee! at 207 to the wheels, that is a 31.05 gain in power, netting 238.05 to the wheels. he stated that an SRT after him was dissapointed afterwards regarding their numbers compared to the redline! sounds good enough to me for under $400 shipped!

 

damn that much power from a header exhaust on the lsj must be extremly restrictive

 

that's what i'm thinking, that way they can offer upgrades to get power like on the srt, i don't think all too much was messed with to get to 270hp on the sema cobalt

 

on the sema 270 a majority of it was ecu tuning rev limter increased to 7grand or more thats where the lsj makes alot more power. 16 psi and ecu tuning is mostly what it consists of. and knowing gm how they underated the rL and cobalt it mostlikely will be 270 whp. if i get a cobalt ss s/c and they get carb approval and it fits i will so get one, depends on if borla makes one. i love borla i hope they do.

 

I own a SRT4. The majority of both SRT4s and WRXs (fellow F.I. 4bangers) get any kind of intakes do not like the results. This is for both Short ram and for Cold air. The problem is, the cars PCM/ECU is tuned for the stock air box and may have trouble adjusting to an aftermarket intake. I understand that you car is SC unlike ours, but I think you may experience the same problem. Also, there are members who have had a positive experience with the intake.

My advice is, buy one from a place you can return it.

 

CAI's show more of a gain than short ram's and then the V2's show even more gain, only a couple more horses though. But if your worried about the water coming up your intake with a CAI then don't drive through lakes, lol because thats the only possibility your car would get f'ed up is because you submerged it.

 

ive aways used short ram and made custom tubing makeing to ram air going right to the filter and painting the tube black sp you cant see it. lol i did it to my malibu using stock intake with a 3 inch tube going into the front bumper grill and my car picked up 3 mph in 1/4 and almost 2 tenths and ive dont it to a few other cars and they all picked up from it

 

redline = 2930lb
cobalt SS = 2806lb

CobaltSS is 124lb lighter... in drag racing world they say every 100lb = 0.1 off your 1/4 time


Osman

 

is that an official weight, i was under the impression that the cobalt would be heavier

 

That is the weight claimed by SCC and MotorTrend in their recent reviews of the car, as well as the weight listed on GMCanada.com. However, chevrolet.com still has the weight listed as 2991... which has been there a while.

I guess we still don't really know lol.

 

i just can't see it being that much lighter with bigger wheels and non-plastic body panels. you'd think that they'll be pretty close to each other

 

saturn has 4 doors

 

The projected might be better, I have been told that Gm under rated the hp, its 240hp instead of 205. the SS might run in the high 13's