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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 03:43 PM
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Question Removing the catalytic converter

Does anyone think there will be any gains for doing this. I am going to wait for borla, but in the mean time I was thinking of puting in a straight pipe? What about throwing engine codes? Thanks for the input in advance.
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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 03:47 PM
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I know on my LS1 Trans Am I gained quite a bit of power from removing the cats (about 10 rwhp) and replacing with an offroad pipe. All you need to keep the car from throwing a CEL would be to replace the rear O2 sensor with an O2 simulator. I dont however know how much power this will give the 2.0 SC motor but if you have the resources to try it then what could it hurt.
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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 05:17 PM
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Yeah, i did it on my LS1 Camaro, It gave me a lil bit of power, along with making it sound bad ass. Just dont get caught by any emmisions checks...
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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 05:41 PM
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I made an offroad down pipe for my car and it seemed to help a bit. It needs a o2 sim otherwise it will throw a code.
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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by clownhair
I made an offroad down pipe for my car and it seemed to help a bit. It needs a o2 sim otherwise it will throw a code.
whats an o2 simulator, and where can I get one. Has anyone done this to there 2.0 cobalt?
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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 06:34 PM
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Err 4 cylinders without cats produce a ton of smoke, sound bad, plus its illegal.
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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 07:20 PM
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yea dont do it man my freind got slapped with a pretty fine forse it
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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by VaMP
Err 4 cylinders without cats produce a ton of smoke, sound bad, plus its illegal.
mines not smoking.....dosn't sound the best though.
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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by CoBoltz007
whats an o2 simulator, and where can I get one. Has anyone done this to there 2.0 cobalt?
http://www.o2sim.com/
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Old Sep 26, 2005 | 08:17 PM
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Since the one on the SS is high flow you might gain 1-2 Max HP by removing it.

You can't really compare a 4cyl with a 2.5 inch exhaust to a V8 using a Y-Pipe with 2.25. The HP you gain in a F-Body is due to a better pipe (maybe even bigger) and a better collector where it goes to the intermidiate.
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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 08:00 AM
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Can anyone else giv eme any input. I am tired of waiting for borla but I know it will be worth the wait. As long as it isn't a fart can.
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Originally Posted by clownhair
mines not smoking.....dosn't sound the best though.
you wouldn't have any videos or a sound clip would you?
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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 08:58 AM
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i know in kentucky it's a $10,000 fine for messing with the emission systems on cars post 1995 or something like that... maybe it's 1985
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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 10:23 AM
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i know in kentucky it's a $10,000 fine for messing with the emission systems on cars post 1995 or something like that... maybe it's 1985
If you get caught, lol.
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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 10:25 AM
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in lancaster my car doesn't need to pass emissions
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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 11:32 AM
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The only way you would gain any hp is if the cat is restrictive. On older vehicles you notice big gains because the cat that was removed was clogged up and now the exhaust is flowing like it should. I havn't looked at our cats but if they are a bigger and high flowing like I have heard, you wont notice anything but more noise.
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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 11:43 AM
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go 3" with the o2 sim no cat suppossed to be good gains from that on these cars .
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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by slowbalt
The only way you would gain any hp is if the cat is restrictive. On older vehicles you notice big gains because the cat that was removed was clogged up and now the exhaust is flowing like it should. I havn't looked at our cats but if they are a bigger and high flowing like I have heard, you wont notice anything but more noise.
I wouldn't bother just gutting the cat, I have a whole new 3" mandrel bent pipe on mine now. There are some fairly restrictive parts on the stock downpipe.
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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by CoBoltz007
you wouldn't have any videos or a sound clip would you?
nope sorry, its loud though.
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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by clownhair
nope sorry, its loud though.
you gotta get some, Is it obnoxious, if so I guess I'l just wait for the 3 inch borla.
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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by CoBoltz007
As long as it isn't a fart can.
It's going to be a fart can, No matter what if you make it straight, and take the Cats off. Plus any good engine needs Some back pressure, to scavenge all the unburnt gasses. Straight pipes, dont allow for that. Best bet is to wait for Borla a 'lil longer.
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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by CoBoltz007
you gotta get some, Is it obnoxious, if so I guess I'l just wait for the 3 inch borla.
OBNOXIOUS
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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by DJNateGnau
It's going to be a fart can, No matter what if you make it straight, and take the Cats off. Plus any good engine needs Some back pressure, to scavenge all the unburnt gasses. Straight pipes, dont allow for that. Best bet is to wait for Borla a 'lil longer.
I was talking about borla when I said as long as it isn't a fart can. I just hope it isn't. hopefully no bigger then a 3 inch outlet
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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 04:04 PM
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Oh, Ok! I see what you're on about.
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Old Sep 27, 2005 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by clownhair
OBNOXIOUS
does that mean yes
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