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tagh2000
10-26-2005, 11:07 PM
ne one have ne 0-60 and 0-80 times in the 2.4 ss? auto/manual

averagewhiteboy
10-26-2005, 11:42 PM
I can't seem to find this either..? lol.

tagh2000
10-26-2005, 11:44 PM
i am think about the ss non s/c and what to know the preformance, iam looking at either the ss or mustang V6

averagewhiteboy
10-26-2005, 11:49 PM
The Mustang 3.8 V6 or the 4.0 V6?

tagh2000
10-26-2005, 11:51 PM
2006 4.0 its 0-60 in 6.9 sec so its not too bad, but i want to know the ss non s/c times to compare

MikeSS
10-26-2005, 11:54 PM
I would guess it would be in the 7.0-7.2 range for a manul, slightly higher for an automatic.

tagh2000
10-26-2005, 11:57 PM
the 2.2 is what 145 hp 155lb-ft and that is low 8 sec, and with 170 hp its only a gain of 1 sec?

averagewhiteboy
10-26-2005, 11:58 PM
My Mom has the 3.8 V6 in her '02 Mustang and it's alright. No where near the V8 though. Maybe if it had a stick it would be better...but I don't know.

tagh2000
10-27-2005, 12:03 AM
i dont know if iam going to go for the ss non s/c cause its has decent preformance, but it does it looking like it is faster. U pull up at a stop light and lets say a grand prix gtp pulls up, looks at ur car thinking its a s/c ss wants to race, u know ur going to lose, but ur car looks fast doing it.

averagewhiteboy
10-27-2005, 07:58 AM
I'll warn you. The supercharged 3.8's are great engines. lol. Look out for that.

avro206
10-27-2005, 08:46 AM
I'll warn you. The supercharged 3.8's are great engines. lol. Look out for that.

Your talking about Fords 3.8L S/C or GMs? Either way the Ford S/C was never ina Mustang. And Fords 3.8L is a POS anyway.

Back to the topic, Car and Driver did test a V6 automatic Mustang 4.0 V6. I beleive 6.9 is correct. But the 4.0 is a an unrefined POS truck engine. It feels, sounds and revs like a truck engine. Not what you'd want in a sporty car at all.

avro206
10-27-2005, 08:47 AM
the 2.2 is what 145 hp 155lb-ft and that is low 8 sec, and with 170 hp its only a gain of 1 sec?

thats a big gain. Think about it the s/c is rated at only 30hp over the 2.4L and its about 1 sec faster 0-60 and less then that in the 1/4

MikeSS
10-27-2005, 09:51 AM
thats a big gain. Think about it the s/c is rated at only 30hp over the 2.4L and its about 1 sec faster 0-60 and less then that in the 1/4

exactly, having only a 25HP boost over the regular 2.2L ecotec and then gaining 1 sec 0-60 is impressive.

brentil
10-27-2005, 10:53 AM
The Solstice with the same engine (at 177HP though) can pull 0-60 in officially 7.2s. The mags have done it in 6.9s-7.4s depending on the magazine.

memphisr24
10-27-2005, 11:04 AM
Yeah, I heard it was 7.0 to 7.1.

tagh2000
10-27-2005, 04:17 PM
i was talking about the gm 3800 series engine which is supercharged in the grand prix gtp, ne way which would be more for insurance the mustang v6 or the cobalt ss?, and if the ss non s/c is in the mid 7 sec, i would look at the mazda 3 160hp which is cheeper and does 0-60 in low 7 sec

MikeSS
10-27-2005, 04:24 PM
i was talking about the gm 3800 series engine which is supercharged in the grand prix gtp, ne way which would be more for insurance the mustang v6 or the cobalt ss?, and if the ss non s/c is in the mid 7 sec, i would look at the mazda 3 160hp which is cheeper and does 0-60 in low 7 sec


Ummm, no it doesn't? Where'd you get that? An automatic 160HP Mazda 3 would be lucky to be in the sevens.

Manual SS = 7.1
Auto SS = 7.4

MikeSS
10-27-2005, 04:33 PM
Mazda 3 2.3L 160HP
Manual 0-60 = 7.5
Auto 0-60 = 8.0
Source (http://www.modernracer.com/mazda3s.html)

Mazda 3 Sport 2.3L 5-Speed(Hatch)
0-60 = 7.8
Motor Trend (http://motortrend.com/roadtests/wagon/112_0406_first_mazda/)

tagh2000
10-27-2005, 04:41 PM
ne way what is .4 seconds, and what is the insurence difference between the mustang v6 or the coupe 2.4 ss

phxSS
10-27-2005, 09:29 PM
Your talking about Fords 3.8L S/C or GMs? Either way the Ford S/C was never ina Mustang. And Fords 3.8L is a POS anyway.

Back to the topic, Car and Driver did test a V6 automatic Mustang 4.0 V6. I beleive 6.9 is correct. But the 4.0 is a an unrefined POS truck engine. It feels, sounds and revs like a truck engine. Not what you'd want in a sporty car at all.


My '00 V6 mustang with a supercharger was/is not a POS. Has 86k miles now, redlined almost daily it's whole life, been through auto-x, drag races, street races, and it still does not have a single leak anywhere, and starts when you barely turn the ignition :D

As far as saying the new 4.0 is a POS truck engine, what do you think Camaro's and TA's had? That's right!! A POS truck engine!!

Sounds like you hate Fords, and have no clue why

avro206
10-27-2005, 11:05 PM
My '00 V6 mustang with a supercharger was/is not a POS. Has 86k miles now, redlined almost daily it's whole life, been through auto-x, drag races, street races, and it still does not have a single leak anywhere, and starts when you barely turn the ignition :D

As far as saying the new 4.0 is a POS truck engine, what do you think Camaro's and TA's had? That's right!! A POS truck engine!!

Sounds like you hate Fords, and have no clue why

If you supercharged your 3.8L Mustang nad had no problems that is good. I never called you car a POS. I was just trying to say that the Thunderbirds S/C 3.8L is not a great engine.

Fords 3.8L esp the S/C Thunderbirds have not beeen nearly as reliable as GMs 3800 V6.
Head gaskets area common problem.


Secondly---the 350 was a car engine FIRST. Then adapted for truck use. There is a big difference.


I drove an Explorer witha 4.0L V6---rough, noisy and course sounding. Plus very low reving. Does not belong in a Mustang.

GM's LS1/LS2 blows away Fords modular family anyday. They also rev higher. So much for the OHC hyp :D

Hope you understand my post better. Perhaps kmy choise of words were not the best.

I don't hate Fords but there V6 engines are just sad. So I do know why :)

averagewhiteboy
10-27-2005, 11:38 PM
I actually meant the GM 3800 all along. lol. My dads '04 Monte SS has the n/a 3.8. Great platform.

I don't care for Ford V6's. Any of them. Sorry. lol. They're just not up to par with my powerband tastes.

phxSS
10-28-2005, 12:02 AM
If you supercharged your 3.8L Mustang nad had no problems that is good. I never called you car a POS. I was just trying to say that the Thunderbirds S/C 3.8L is not a great engine.

Fords 3.8L esp the S/C Thunderbirds have not beeen nearly as reliable as GMs 3800 V6.
Head gaskets area common problem.


Secondly---the 350 was a car engine FIRST. Then adapted for truck use. There is a big difference.


I drove an Explorer witha 4.0L V6---rough, noisy and course sounding. Plus very low reving. Does not belong in a Mustang.

GM's LS1/LS2 blows away Fords modular family anyday. They also rev higher. So much for the OHC hyp :D

Hope you understand my post better. Perhaps kmy choise of words were not the best.

I don't hate Fords but there V6 engines are just sad. So I do know why :)

K, that's much better explained :-D Yes, the SOHC 4.6 is pretty weak. But, the DOHC cobra motor is sweet as hell. Especially the '03-'04 motors. The bottom end on those is nearly bullet proof.

I'm not a Ford guy per-se, but I'm a SVT fanboy for sure :cool:

Eddie
10-28-2005, 12:23 AM
eh take the s/c out of the cobra's and see how good the DOHC really is.


n e ways gm's 3.8 series engines were never in trucks only truck v6 engins were vortec engines never 3800 series, 3800 series were in the camaro and firebird, then supercharged versions of the engines were in the pontiac gtp, bonniville, now montecarlo and impala ss, base 3800series engines also available in those cars.

seriously chevy small block out performs ford small block, and you have to admit that. yeah ford's dohc s/c engine is good, but keep inmind they had to make the engine virtually bullit proof cuz they had to put the s/c on inorder to make enough power to compete w/ chevy small blocks.

jtohio4002
10-28-2005, 12:38 AM
eh take the s/c out of the cobra's and see how good the DOHC really is.


n e ways gm's 3.8 series engines were never in trucks only truck v6 engins were vortec engines never 3800 series, 3800 series were in the camaro and firebird, then supercharged versions of the engines were in the pontiac gtp, bonniville, now montecarlo and impala ss, base 3800series engines also available in those cars.

seriously chevy small block out performs ford small block, and you have to admit that. yeah ford's dohc s/c engine is good, but keep inmind they had to make the engine virtually bullit proof cuz they had to put the s/c on inorder to make enough power to compete w/ chevy small blocks.
You are exactly right. If there is one thing that gm has over any other car company (domestic that is) is their powertrain.
I have driven the 4.0 V6 in the new mustang and it feels the same power wise and sound wise as the ranger.

Also the 3800 series was in 2003 voted best V6 engine in the world and i had a 1997 grand prix gt and that 3800 ran for well over 200,000 miles b4 i sold it to one of my buddies and it still runs as good as new with 257,000 miles on it. What does ford have on that? :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D

avro206
10-28-2005, 12:47 AM
K, that's much better explained :-D Yes, the SOHC 4.6 is pretty weak. But, the DOHC cobra motor is sweet as hell. Especially the '03-'04 motors. The bottom end on those is nearly bullet proof.

I'm not a Ford guy per-se, but I'm a SVT fanboy for sure :cool:


I think SVT cars were great. Pretty great handling too. Although I have never driven one :cry: Too bad they are not doing anything at the moment.