Well I know it seems like for ever since we took our poll of "What do you want GM Performance to make for us?"

I spent Tuesday meeting with different engineers and the Performance team from GM talking about what we have experienced with our Cobalt’s, and what we would like to see in the future.

The day started early as we drove out to the GM Milford Proving Grounds. They showed me around the different departments that are responsible for the development of the car. We then walked out into a modern shop where there were engineers working on current vehicles working on refinements as well as working on future vehicle development.

I was able to talk to some of these engineers and discuss some of the modifications our members have made to their cars and some of the problems we have had.

Unfortunately I am unable to go into any detail about what I saw for the future as I was deprogrammed before I was able to leave. I will say that it was an honor to be able to spend a half day at the proving grounds and tests drive some of the vehicles they have there, the place is totally amazing. Once again I can’t tell you what I drove but I can say this: The future looks good!!!
And I am proud to be affiliated with GM.

The day was capped off with a meeting with the team leaders from GM Performance Division.

I put on a Power Point presentation that explained your wants and some of the problems we have with our cars.
All of these items were from the thread: “What do we want GM to make for us”.

We talked in depth about the top items that we wanted. Some of the items on our list already have been addressed and we will see some of the other items being fixed or addressed in the future.
Still other items will be looked at in more detail and they have agreed to contact me with any questions they have and I will be able to go to them with any future issues we have as well.

At this point I can not go into any details about future items because if I do I will lose the relationship I have with them.

I will post up any new items or fixes as they release them.


Market Research product List

# of hits Idea / Wants:
44 Suspension Kit (lowering/performance
33 Traction Kit (anti wheel hop)
22 High flow Downpipe/ Converter
21 Super Charger
19 Larger Heat Exchanger
17 CAI for the LSJ
14 Performance Clutch / Flywheel kit
13 Turbo Kit
13 Fuel System upgrade
11 Brakes

These were the top 10 items we talked about. This list was taken right from the thread we had this last summer, I put it into an excel spread sheet for them along with the comments everyone made for them to refer to as they work on these for us.

any thing you can tell us tho? Awesome that your doing this for us tho, thanks

Thanks Alot!!! cant wait to see whats in store

Well... good to know that you atleast got to share some opinions and info.

Subscribed. I want to see what is new in development for our cars.

Awesome...can you like attach the slides so we can see what you presented to them?

Yes, awesome! This is an exciting time for a GM car enthusiast, can't wait to see what's next!

is it a gag order till a certain date or just a dont say a thing till the car launches deal? did you remind em the camaro needs to be priced below what the GTO was if they want to move em?

DAMN YOU!! Reading this is like being with a REALLY hot chick and she massages your downstairs through your pants, then says...We just met, I can't do anything else for you. I promise that when we do hook up, that it will be LOTS of fun though. :lol:

Thanks man, you are the man for sure. Good looking out for us, and for having great deals and products for our cars as well.

Very cool, so they are going to make a bigger H/E for us?

Just kidding, but I hope so. Nice work Tom. Thanks. :twothumbs

Awesome...can you like attach the slides so we can see what you presented to them?

For the most part what I showed them was an excel spread sheet with the results of our survey on what everyone wanted them to do for us. I also showed them some slides of what the competition is selling and how that compared to what we wanted. The meeting was very well received and I will keep in contact with them and let everyone know as they release information to me.

DAMN YOU!! Reading this is like being with a REALLY hot chick and she massages your downstairs through your pants, then says...We just met, I can't do anything else for you. I promise that when we do hook up, that it will be LOTS of fun though. :lol:



ROFLMFAO +rep

Sounds like you hade a ball! Thanks for all your help.

ROFLMFAO +rep

:lol: Thanks, what can I say, I aim to please..Did that sound gay??

weee--shhhh... weeee-sshhhh

this is awsome. nice to hear. please let me know if they are going to bring out a 2.2 supercharger kit. plllllllllleeeeeeeassseeeeeeee

So are they actually going to make more stuff for the LSJ, or use this info to develop stuff for the LNF?

I Want A Tc Or Sc Tuned Kit From Gm For My 2.2 Dammit

Any idea on a release date of any information?

:wtf: That post didnt tell us anything, thanks for nothin.

Sweet. So we have hope for the future. Cant wait!

Sweet! Sounds like it went great, & sounds like you influenced them :twothumbs Does anybody have a link to that thread???

I have faith in CED and if he said it looks good then it looks good but yeah thanks for the insite now for once a person who actually has talk with GM and got some answers so no more about the whole turbo 2009 or any threads like that casue it just goes to show you that nothing has been released and thanks to CED i have a better feeling about the future and our cars thanks CED +rep for the info

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thank u

You told them we Charge for redesigning the reservoir Hook Up Right!;) :cssNET:
It was Nice to meet you & we Hope to see you guys again!:)

perhaps you can tell us this....will there be a way to tune the 2.2 in the future? such as a f/i kit that requires tuning? basically, are they planning ANYTHING that requires a reflash?

So are they actually going to make more stuff for the LSJ, or use this info to develop stuff for the LNF?

Yes we talked about some new products for the LSJ, and as they are approved and released I will share them with everyone. No sense in starting any rumors because maybe nothing will ever become of them so better to say nothing and be surprised than to say something is coming out and it never happens.

Any idea on a release date of any information?

No, don't expect anything overnight. Any product they create has to go though development, testing, validation, and certification.

:wtf: That post didnt tell us anything, thanks for nothin.

If the meeting didn't do anything else it brought us all closer together with GM and them knowing what the public wants. I think most of you will be very happy with what may become of it. Once again I will post any releases once they are available.

You told them we Charge for redesigning the reservoir Hook Up Right!;) :cssNET:
It was Nice to meet you & we Hope to see you guys again!:)

I can't say they noticed the reservoir hook up but I did see a picture of your car during the meeting up on the big screen and I wasn't the one who posted it. :)

It was nice meeting you as well and I look forward to seeing more of everyone at future Nopi shows.

perhaps you can tell us this....will there be a way to tune the 2.2 in the future? such as a f/i kit that requires tuning? basically, are they planning ANYTHING that requires a reflash?

Due to emissions I don't think you will any tunes from GM. We can only hope HP Tuners or others like them will be able to.
Although the meeting lasted a couple of hours there just wasn't enough time to cover everything that was on the list, we started with the top of the list and worked from that. I did leave them a copy of the complete list along with the comments that everyone added to their wishes.

can't say they noticed the reservoir hook up but I did see a picture of your car during the meeting up on the big screen and I wasn't the one who posted it.


Lol It's cool just Messing & That is Nice to hear!:)

DAMN YOU!! Reading this is like being with a REALLY hot chick and she massages your downstairs through your pants, then says...We just met, I can't do anything else for you. I promise that when we do hook up, that it will be LOTS of fun though. :lol:

Thanks man, you are the man for sure. Good looking out for us, and for having great deals and products for our cars as well.

:lol: :lol: :lol: rep for you ROFLMAO

:( I just wish I knew the future of Forced Induction Cobalts and if there will be a new one whether turbo or S/C for 09' or 10'

Very nice Tom, good things will take time.



Best Regards

wut they need is a supercharger kit for the 2.4 cobalt thats warrantied..lol

Unfortunately I am unable to go into any detail about what I saw for the future as I was deprogrammed before I was able to leave. I will say that it was an honor to be able to spend a half day at the proving grounds and tests drive some of the vehicles they have there, the place is totally amazing. Once again I can’t tell you what I drove but I can say this: The future looks good!!!
And I am proud to be affiliated with GM.



In other words, you signed the NDA.

Free advice: never sign the NDA. It's better to not know, than to know and be unable to share it with anyone.

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Due to emissions I don't think you will any tunes from GM. We can only hope HP Tuners or others like them will be able to.
Although the meeting lasted a couple of hours there just wasn't enough time to cover everything that was on the list, we started with the top of the list and worked from that. I did leave them a copy of the complete list along with the comments that everyone added to their wishes.

well then what was covered?? what were the parts that u put the most emphasis on in ur presentation and that was talked about? mind sending a link for the presentation u showed?

so basically the cobalt 2.2 will never get a s/c kit like the cavi 2.2 did. great, just what i needed to hear :thumbsdow

Thanks Tom... Great news...!! :twothumbs


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well then what was covered?? what were the parts that u put the most emphasis on in ur presentation and that was talked about? mind sending a link for the presentation u showed?

so basically the cobalt 2.2 will never get a s/c kit like the cavi 2.2 did. great, just what i needed to hear :thumbsdow

build your own like me

Market Research product List

# of Hits - Idea / Wants:
44 - Suspension Kit (lowering/performance
33 - Traction Kit (anti wheel hop)
22 - High flow Downpipe/ Converter
21 - Super Charger
19 - Larger Heat Exchanger
17 - CAI for the LSJ
14 - Performance Clutch / Flywheel kit
13 - Turbo Kit
13 - Fuel System upgrade
11 - Brakes

These were the top 10 items we talked about. This list was taken right from the thread we had this last summer, I put it into an excel spread sheet for them along with the comments everyone made for them to refer to as they work on these for us.

I will add this to the original post at the start of the thread. (sorry I should have done that from the start).

You go with your bad self...Always good to hear positive support such as this, especially for our cars.

damn you hit all the right points

Huh, I would have thought anti-wheel hop anything would have been at the top, and fuel delivery would have been higher up there. Still a good list though.

Sounds like you had a good time and some good things will come from GM in the near future! :twothumbs

build your own like me

i was really just interested in the GM tune/reflash that they would offer. im going to build my own as well when tuneing comes out in the form of HPT or that new product. (forgot what its called)

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Any updates on any of this stuff? Can you give any more info such a products proposed to be released or any release dates? Or is GM full of it and focusing on things like the HHR SS.:thumbsdow

SEMA approaches my man...something will be revealed indeed

What would be a neat idea would be a conversion kit for those of us with automatics to switch to a manual transmission that would come with the needed parts and software.

They have called me looking for more input on what we discussed while I was there. (It all looks positive and at least they stay in contact keeping the communications going).
We have to be patient as it's not like flipping a switch. Once an idea gets approved it takes a long time until it hits the shelves for sale.

They have called me looking for more input on what we discussed while I was there. (It all looks positive and at least they stay in contact keeping the communications going).
We have to be patient as it's not like flipping a switch. Once an idea gets approved it takes a long time until it hits the shelves for sale.

Way to go man keep it up & Thanks for all the Help!:twothumbs

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