So a friend of mine down here in cinci (bradsi on these forums) is betting me 200 dollars that i can't go through the whole winter season with the stock pirelli on my 07 cobalt ss/sc, so we are about to find out! The bet is i can't get into a wreck caused by me, or get stuck somewhere and have to get towed out. Anyone think i can make it?? Thanks for all the good lucks to come!!!!!

oh yah,

*puts on flame suit*

i would learn to spell the name of the tire first

uhhh i don't think so, but good luck you will need it

happy now mommy??

happy now mommy??

i thought it was daddy?

Damn that will be hard. I didnt drive mine at all during the winter. It was a bitch.

that would be easy just grandma that shit everywhere , put some subs in and slab

He just lost 200 dollars...

as long as you don't completely suck and take it easy you will be fine

EDIT* 3-4 inches plus....don't bother lol

Yah i never said it would be a breeze, but lets hope for an easy winter in cincy :-D

This is basically just in response to everyone and their mom asking if they can get by without getting winter tires haha

Yes... I survived TWO CALGARY ALBERTA winters with my stock p-zero's.
Cincy for me would be a fuckin breeze

what did you guys define a wreck as?

i wouldn't take that bet. you're going to have zero traction on your summer tires in the snowy icy streets of ohio.

i have two 12" mtx subs in the trunk which should help alot haha
A wreck being me hitting anything that i shouldn't haha? telephone pole, hitting the curb, etc.

Im more worried you'll be getting stuck my friend. And I also said it depends on what kinda of winter we have here. And yah BG has 2 subs in the trunk.

Goodluck to you, winner doesn't have to pay food for Christmas shopping time and gets $200. :nono:

i have two 12" mtx subs in the trunk which should help alot haha
A wreck being me hitting anything that i shouldn't haha? telephone pole, hitting the curb, etc.

i think youll take out a curb or two

i wouldn't take that bet. you're going to have zero traction on your summer tires in the snowy icy streets of ohio.


haha hell yeah if it ices over your fucked , i was driving from el paso to austin at 3 in the morning and there was a road block because someone got into a bad accident because of black ice well they let us go by and there was about a 1/4 mile of black ice and right when i hit it i was going 25 i started sliding and i didnt really lose control but i got it down to like 10 MPH and just cruised through it

Moral of the story , if it ices over your fucked unless you drive under 15 MPH

Should we mention the incline your driveway is on Brian? Or where you park at work? Hehe

Oh yes, i get a few free meals now too... haha

Also i dont think we decided on if my driveway counts as the bet or not, but brads gonna post a picture of it, and btw, yes that is my awesome 93 dodge shadow in the background at the very top!

Should we mention the incline your driveway is on Brian? Or where you park at work? Hehe

sounds like bad news. shit, if i was local i would take that bet with you too!

why would you risk it? I just made the argument for someone today that those tires are max performance summer rated tires, not designed for winter driving.

$200 if you make it for the winter, or if you crash you owe him $200 and then you have to repair your balt.... sounds like a dumb bet to me

that's an easy bet to win if you have a beater or another form of transportation when there's snow on the ground...good luck either way

ive done it. drove my car from florida to chicago and lived there through the winter and had no problems

why would you risk it? I just made the argument for someone today that those tires are max performance summer rated tires, not designed for winter driving.

$200 if you make it for the winter, or if you crash you owe him $200 and then you have to repair your balt.... sounds like a dumb bet to me

haha yah call me an idiot if you want. I just find it funny that people KEEP posting about if they can get by through winter with them or not, so you all can use me as an example if something bad happens haha

It's steeper than it looks. I hate going up it.. My clutch hates it too.
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Oh and Dodge Shadow FTW! I love that car...

why would you risk it? I just made the argument for someone today that those tires are max performance summer rated tires, not designed for winter driving.

$200 if you make it for the winter, or if you crash you owe him $200 and then you have to repair your balt.... sounds like a dumb bet to me

+rep for bringing that post into it!

But we all have to remember, what kind of winter Cincy will have.

Is the shadow a V6? 2.2 turbo? I had a white one with a 3.0L

Man i wish it was the v6... it just the v4 2.5L although that car still had some jump believe it or not, it held it's own out there.. And that thing has been SOOO reliable for the 5+ years we've had it.

lol i attempted this last winter and got stuck for a week...

these tires are scary shit in the winter....

lol i attempted this last winter and got stuck for a week...

how thick was the snow you tried to push through?

my bet is both you will forget once spring rolls around and u will be a better driver because of it ! its a test

lol it was just 6 inches and a lil ice

I can gurantee you we wont forget haha, but i agree if anything, it will improve my driving skills if i get to drive it that long haha

If your a decent driver you should have no problems. I ran my stockers all winter last year. The only real problem you may have is your driveway. Dont even bother trying to move it if you guys get an ice storm. As light as the car is, tread pattern, and hard tires, you have to be a good driver. The cobalt likes to float in snow. I had to drive to work one morning in 6 inches of snow. Follow the tracks, and when your car starts to pull when you hit the unpacked snow, just go with the flow. Dont over steer. No major corrections and youll be fine. I did get some curb rash on my tires though. Of all places, in line at a touchless carwash. They didnt plow their drive, and when i was trying to get closer to the teller thing my ride slide off the hardpacked snow and slide down onto the curb. Nothing like know no matter what you do your gonna rash your wheels getting outa that spot.

With that kind of hill......you're fucked. You will not be able to get up it, and if you did....you are going to slide down it uncontrollably.

haha just gotta know how to drive, i drove my ss s/c in the snow and ice last year with semi bald p zero's!!! haha im not even kidding, we went to the mall like 30 minutes and we go in it was cloudy we come out it was snowing like a mother i said f it e brake!!! haha we were doing crazy crap but then the ride home the back was giving out since they were bald, but gotta know how to take it, like drifting turn the opposite direction, but ive been snow plowing with my father since i was 6 years old so i know what snow, slush, ice, and sleet can do

got my car last january in upstate new york

still here

stock tires

I drove my redline with the dunlop sp9000 through 1 NE Ohio winter and it sucked. Moving wasn't bad, but stopping was a whole nother issue the car slid a bigilion feet every stop.

I think the Lops are worse in the winter then the P-zeros though.

are you sure this isnt a copy/paste from the winner of darwin awards or something?

and omg look at all the like minded tards coming out of the woodwork braggin up their own idiocy.

i hate that innocent people are forced to share roads with some of you retards.
Keep tellin yourself its cuz your just such a badass driver.
they can print it on your tombstone.

dont own an ss, but i drove my 2.2 with low profiles on it up to my grandparents in jamestown ny, for anyone who lives around there they know what that means. fun shit trying to go up hills if your not smart and let the tires start spinning.

are you sure this isnt a copy/paste from the winner of darwin awards or something?

and omg look at all the like minded tards coming out of the woodwork braggin up their own idiocy.

i hate that innocent people are forced to share roads with some of you retards.
Keep tellin yourself its cuz your just such a badass driver.
they can print it on your tombstone.

well i know im only 18, but still, i actually know what snow is and can do, like posted before i practically live snow, my father and my uncles all have snow plows and go every winter, and when i was a kid, no joke i built little snow plows for my remote control trucks, but i can have my friend david who was with me that night and also matt tell u how i was driving, but yes of course i drove slow and used the transmission to my advantage, my dads trucks have engine brakes so i just apply them and they slow down by themselves

sorry man. wake up before you kill someone please.

it has nothing to do with your leet skeelz
the simple fact is, there is NOTHING you can do to stop that car within a safe distance on those tires in an emergency.

Period.

sorry man. wake up before you kill someone please.

it has nothing to do with your leet skeelz
the simple fact is, there is NOTHING you can do to stop that car within a safe distance on those tires in an emergency.

Period.

yeah i know the tires suck and all, i did slide here and there, but if u really needed to drive you can, just gotta use the low gears down hills to slow u down, tap the brake, and to speed up dont hit it so hard gently speed up

I drove on my Stock Conti's last year...had no issues...it was fun taking my car into empty parking lots and power sliding it...

Now I have 3 Toyo Proxes 4(UHP All Season) and 1 Bridgestone S03(Summer tire). I got the Proxes used but the tread is still good, I put a hole in the 4th one mounting it and needed a tire to put on and thats all I could get my hands on...

When I get them money I'll probably buy 2 Brand new Proxes 4's

of course you can get around.
everyone knows that.

but your not getting around safely, or in control.
its the fact that your risking yours and how many countless lives because your to cheap to buy the correct safty equipment for your car.


Tell me something.....do you think you would enjoy jailtime?
what do you think is going to happen if you are cruising along and a kid jumps out and you kill him, because you have NO stopping power on those tires
and in the investigation they find that you have HIGH PERFORMANCE SUMMER ONLY tires on your sporty little car, driving around on ice and snow.


Time to wake up kiddies.
your all happy to spend money on your go fast shit, but theres other things in life that have to be bought too.

I drove through 8 inches plus on the stock tires at least twice. It isn't fun but if you are careful, you should be okay.

With that kind of hill......you're fucked. You will not be able to get up it, and if you did....you are going to slide down it uncontrollably.

i know thats the main part im worried about lol, although we still haven't decided if that counts yet haha..

Yay for the Darwin awards!

of course you can get around.
everyone knows that.

but your not getting around safely, or in control.
its the fact that your risking yours and how many countless lives because your to cheap to buy the correct safty equipment for your car.


Tell me something.....do you think you would enjoy jailtime?
what do you think is going to happen if you are cruising along and a kid jumps out and you kill him, because you have NO stopping power on those tires
and in the investigation they find that you have HIGH PERFORMANCE SUMMER ONLY tires on your sporty little car, driving around on ice and snow.


Time to wake up kiddies.
your all happy to spend money on your go fast shit, but theres other things in life that have to be bought too.

well that was a one time thing i drove that car in the winter, but i got my other car or the winter, my honda, but others need to get the right tires

wow.
just wow.
the urine levels in the genepool are getting way to high.
its not "should be okay" to risk the lives of everyone around you sharing the roads with you.

Some of you obviously just dont understand the value of human life yet.
one day when you grow up a bit, youll realise how mind boggling it is to go out on the streets driving a 3000lb weapon, with no true control over it.

wow.
just wow.


the urine levels in the genepool are getting way to high.


(im glad you only did it one time, that should be all it takes to realise its dangerously stupid to do)

well yeah on those p zeros isnt good

if a kid runs out in front of your car, regardless of road conditions, theres still a chance your still gonna run the fucker over... Besides the people here doing all this street racing make our streets a hell of alot more dangerous than someone not using winter tires... Take a deep breath man,,

So a friend of mine down here in cinci (bradsi on these forums) is betting me 200 dollars that i can't go through the whole winter season with the stock pirelli on my 07 cobalt ss/sc, so we are about to find out! The bet is i can't get into a wreck caused by me, or get stuck somewhere and have to get towed out. Anyone think i can make it?? Thanks for all the good lucks to come!!!!!

oh yah,

*puts on flame suit*

ahhh yeah i did last year...

if a kid runs out in front of your car, regardless of road conditions, theres still a chance your still gonna run the fucker over... Besides the people here doing all this street racing make our streets a hell of alot more dangerous than someone not using winter tires... Take a deep breath man,,

you missed the point entirely. not surprisingly considering the topic of this thread.

the point is, if its an accident, and they saw your tire marks where you slammed brakes as hard as you could, and were paying attention....its gonna be ALOT different story, to if you hit him in the winter, with your stock SUMMER ONLY tires on...because all you did is slide

and second....
just because people are stupid enough to street race, does not justify your stupidity in ignoring the fact that your tires are unsafe during winter.


if you bought this car and didnt take notice that the tires are summer only, and you live in a winter climate.....thats your own fault.

if you dont have the money to buy the correct safe tires for your car, you should have bought a cheaper car.

cars arent just about the note to the finance company.


To me this is no better than someone saying "oh i only have 1 brake rotor working, but if im a really good driver, ill be ok"

I drove through winter last year with a set of completely wasted Falken Ziex tires.

You just gotta know how to drive, it's not so difficult.

Spend a couple weeks up in rural NY, and learn how to drive a car in the snow.

A typical day will leave enough snow so that I'm literally plowing the road with my front bumper, not the greatest sensation, but, hey, what the fuck are ya gonna do?

Man i wish it was the v6... it just the v4 2.5L although that car still had some jump believe it or not, it held it's own out there.. And that thing has been SOOO reliable for the 5+ years we've had it.

It had the turbo in it but it stopped working. Also it's starting to fall apart now that his sister is driving it... :bye:

you should take your preaching to the street racing threads. We get the point that you are against the idea haha? Theres gonna be thousands of people driving around in the winter without any tread on there tires, so i dont think me not having winter tires is that big of an issue compared to what else is out there on the streets. Again, deep breath mate

god help us all.

its the pro winter drivers story again.



Do whatever you want. seems like the motto of the current generation

you kids are unbelievable.
im done.

yah that shadow could even take bradsi's car i bet... hehe

whts more important, your Car and possibly your safety or 200$. but with that being said i would prob put my money on u to win this bet, Im from canada BTW so dont think tht becuase im from florida i dont kno about winter driving LOL. ya and forgett about tht driveway for the wnter. Ice and that driveway looks like a bad combo.

and you have never done anything stupid yourself eh? golley haha, im sorry you all knowing person you!

To me this is no better than someone saying "oh i only have 1 brake rotor working, but if im a really good driver, ill be ok"


Good Point!

As other have said. stupid fucking idea. You are going to kill someone or get killed. I was stuck on stock tires all last winter and it sucked. Your only advantage is being in ohio rather than all these hills here. It isn't worth $200. I got stuck on a hill at 40 and had to hit 60 on the snow just to get up. I barely had control. I was fish tailing at every light. I was sliding backward down hills. Skill only saves your ass from death when those things happen. It sure as hell isn't going to keep it from losing control and likely hurting others.

Falken Ziex tires.


I have those! :twothumbs

brad stfu haha if you were that against it, you would cancel the bet and let me get winter tires

Trying to get you to get winter tires! And I want to install them ha.

So a friend of mine down here in cinci (bradsi on these forums) is betting me 200 dollars that i can't go through the whole winter season with the stock pirelli on my 07 cobalt ss/sc, so we are about to find out! The bet is i can't get into a wreck caused by me, or get stuck somewhere and have to get towed out. Anyone think i can make it?? Thanks for all the good lucks to come!!!!!

oh yah,

*puts on flame suit*

I did fine last winter here in PA. But I only drove it twice in the snow. Once because my beater took a shit. Twice would be the time when my friend ran out of gas with his snow mobile. Damn, and I had to help him I'm his best friend. Had to happen same time my beater took a crap :thumbsdow Good luck! This year she goes in the garage for winter :twothumbs

I did fine last winter here in PA. But I only drove it twice in the snow. Once because my beater took a shit. Twice would be the time when my friend ran out of gas with his snow mobile. Damn, and I had to help him I'm his best friend. Happen to happen same time my beater took a crap :thumbsdow Good luck! This year she goes in the garage for winter :twothumbs

whats your beater this year?

1. Firestone tires blow.
2. You will be fine.
3. Share some gps?

I drove a mustang all winter in Utah. I spun out a whole lot, but no crashes, just plain ol fun. You will be more then fine.

i did it last winter, its hard but if you are a good driver it can be done. Good luck

i did it last winter, its hard but if you are a good driver it can be done. Good luck

stock tires on the 06 same as 07?

that driveway is gunna screw ya . I'd say you lost a couple hundred bucks

i went all last winter with stock bald pirellis

youll be fine... i used my bald stockers last winter.. i made it through without any problems

all of a sudden everybody is a pro driver, and everyone drives in the snow on bald summer tires. talk about a bunch of winners.

throw some chains on that bitch
http://www.chainbuddy.com/Images/HeatherHmPg.jpg

throw some chains on that bitch
http://www.chainbuddy.com/Images/HeatherHmPg.jpg

haha nice..

Too bad they're illegal around here. ;)

I'm sure glad i don't live any where near you so i won't have to worry about you sliding down some hill or through a red light into my car. i have the same tires on my car and last winter they were totally useless in the snow and ice and i left it parked when there was snow on the roads

man i made it here in canada lots of snow so im sure u will be fine if u can drive ok

Why the hell would you bump this thread. This thread is possibly the biggest display of stupidity the human race has ever seen.

hahaha bored man, no other new threads

Good 2 year thread bump...

just awesome..

did he win this bet? i made it threw last years winter here on my stock pirellis. i slid a little bit but hit nothing and never got stuck.

can i get in on this? im gonna do it but with kdw2's

I had no Problem doing it here in Northern burbs of chicago. But of course I Lived in Upper michigan for the majority of my life, where you get a lot more snow and had to driv 30 miles one way to get to town for work. Just remember to take it easy and don't be stupid.

Brad. I'll take your bet! Haha. I'll take my Ecsta ASX's which are getting close to the 30k mark and throw them on my stockers and roll all winter. :D

can i get in on this? im gonna do it but with kdw2's

haha arent they the worst snow tires

Uh oh..apparently my tires are only 30k tires. Woopsie

Brad. I'll take your bet! Haha. I'll take my Ecsta ASX's which are getting close to the 30k mark and throw them on my stockers and roll all winter. :D

Haha, it was a joke. Knowing how he drove before I wouldn't have been surprised if he slipped off the road once. He never slipped or anything for 2 winters on the tires. It's all the driver.

haha arent they the worst snow tires

People around here have had great luck with those in snow.

ppffft i drove mine on bald stockers and didnt get stuck. believe me tho i had trooouuuble getting up hills in the snow. i actually rolled backwards and picked up speed be4 hitting the hill lol.

ppffft i drove mine on bald stockers and didnt get stuck. believe me tho i had trooouuuble getting up hills in the snow. i actually rolled backwards and picked up speed be4 hitting the hill lol.

Know how that is. Last year it took me 2 hours to get home from school which usually is a 25min drive because people can't drive. I was on my bald falkens starting in 3rd sometimes 4th just so I could get up a hill. Suvs and rwd cars were all spinning going nowhere and the usual crowd who gets stuck and thinks flooring it will work which then put them in oncoming traffic. Traffic was backed up for miles.

Tires make a world of difference

With RE050a Pole Positions, my car wouldnt even MOVE in anything more than a dusting of snow.

With Blizzak REVO1s, I tore through up to a foot of fresh powder!

i tried a winter up here, mind you i bought the car just b4 winter and thuoght the new summers would get me thru. It didn't work as well as planned. i got stuck in my driveway, trying to pull into it, almost everyday. among other places that were rare. uphill and ice, ur fucked lol. and any large snowfalls ull be fucked and prolly get stuck. maybe not a tow out, but def a push out.

1. Firestone tires blow.
2. You will be fine.
3. Share some gps?

I drove a mustang all winter in Utah. I spun out a whole lot, but no crashes, just plain ol fun. You will be more then fine.

anyone else think its wierd this guy has no member number?

good luck with that bet. and dodge shadow FTW. i had a 91 shadow 2.5L 5 speed. couldn't kill the damn thing and i tried.

good luck with that bet. and dodge shadow FTW. i had a 91 shadow 2.5L 5 speed. couldn't kill the damn thing and i tried.

That thing is still running! His sister is driving it now. Currently rusting like a mofo. It has been through hell and back and still hangs in. Once they get rid of it I might buy it.

anyone else think its wierd this guy has no member number?

IIRC you used to be able to post as a guest .

That thing is still running! His sister is driving it now. Currently rusting like a mofo. It has been through hell and back and still hangs in. Once they get rid of it I might buy it.

nice. ya i got rid of mine cuz the tranny was starting to go due to the previous owner and was having some fueling issues. that and i got a good deal on my cobalt so it was a good trade.

I drove 2 winters on the stock pirelli tires...the second winter was really bad cuz the tires had almost no tread on them.

nice. ya i got rid of mine cuz the tranny was starting to go due to the previous owner and was having some fueling issues. that and i got a good deal on my cobalt so it was a good trade.

If I remember correctly the transmission in it was replaced before he bought it. So that should last a little awhile longer. It was a solid car.

I went through two winters on the Pirelli Rosso tires just fine. I barely got stuck once trying to get up my parents' driveway and that was it. Didn't slide or anything.

Good luck man. Two winters ago when I bought my car I couldn't back out of a parkig spot with 4 inches on the ground. Now I have winterforces and made it through last years snow storms without a problem.

oh ya brad the shadow was a very durable car. i wish i could have found some turbo's in the junkyard then it would have been more fun.

oh ya brad the shadow was a very durable car. i wish i could have found some turbo's in the junkyard then it would have been more fun.

same. blow it up and then do a srt4 swap. sleeper.

oh totally. i saw a website where a guy made a shadow into an 11 second sleeper. then there was some other guy that put a quad air intake in the car.

two winters on my stock pirellis in upstate new york

finally tire shopping right now lol they have over 36k miles on them

I've seen one or two dummies around here driving on the stockers in the winter. My guess is they made it through since I have seen the cars around town following winter but that must be a nitemare, the tires turn into god damned hockey pucks!

P6's were bad enough in the snow, P Zero's???? Not going there:lol:

Ill go the entire winter in hawaii with slicks!