That the cat is out of the bag and it's official there will be a ss/tc cobalt in 2008. Hopefully my 07 SS is worth something because im trading it in the second the turbos are available. The question that most runs through my mind is with a stock 260hp/ 260tq will there be upgrades similiar to the stage 2 and stage 3 for the supercharged balt? And on a side note the 38mm brembos are a sweet addition to the new ss rims.

are sure there will be some upgrades soon after sales start to boom. But you may want to enter question into another thread thats already open. There's like 5 threads on the new balt already

but none address the possible available upgrades, only the oohs and ahhhs of the official statements

you gotta have engine avaliable to the aftermarket before they can actually make anything for the aftermarket. gotta have some patience

you gotta have engine avaliable to the aftermarket before they can actually make anything for the aftermarket. gotta have some patience

think he was mainly talking about GMPP, i'm sure they'll have at least 1 stage kit.

funny thing is, I was talking to Mike from New Era Performance (one of the supporting vendors, and local shops) and he called this whole LNF thing about 6 months ago, he already seemed to know for a fact the cobalt was going turbo and the pcm was changing, according to what he said back then, is the pcm is really hard to change, it works well as is, but doesnt sit well with changes

im sure HPT will have a field day..

How much do you think the brembo kit would cost to upgrade my car?

i think TurboTechRacing is getting on the aftermarket ASAP, once they get their hands on a LNF they will go ahead and make aftermarket

i want a fing turbo balt

i want a fing turbo balt

i dont

yea i bet gmpp will have something availble

Someone stab me in the fucking eye

The car isn't even out and you want to know what aftermarket or upgrades will be out for it?

Does anyone see anything wrong with this?

i have a serious question. why would u trade a supercharged cobalt in for a turbocharged? i mean to me im tired of hearing a blow off valve going off every where i go. i love the whine of a supercharger and not every single car out there has a supercharger. i mean ur getting more power out of the turbo but im just saying i hate the blow off valve sound. cant stand it. believe me people turn their heads when they hear the supercharger whine

Someone stab me in the fucking eye

The car isn't even out and you want to know what aftermarket or upgrades will be out for it?

Does anyone see anything wrong with this?

yeah that people are overreacting, and being so crazy about the new turbo balt, and its not even out yet and its beginning to be annoying

and people called me crazy for saying the 08 would have a turbo..

told ya so :)

i have a serious question. why would u trade a supercharged cobalt in for a turbocharged? i mean to me im tired of hearing a blow off valve going off every where i go. i love the whine of a supercharger and not every single car out there has a supercharger. i mean ur getting more power out of the turbo but im just saying i hate the blow off valve sound. cant stand it. believe me people turn their heads when they hear the supercharger whine

ya b/c they think ur fuel pump is busted LOL


but seriously, to those who know what it is, they love it.

Someone stab me in the fucking eye

The car isn't even out and you want to know what aftermarket or upgrades will be out for it?

Does anyone see anything wrong with this?

this is not as bad as the people that were giving HP NUMBERS for the stage kits that are not out for the car that may or may not even have stage kits :lol:

Someone stab me in the fucking eye

The car isn't even out and you want to know what aftermarket or upgrades will be out for it?

Does anyone see anything wrong with this?

just think, we still have 7-9months before the real fun begins...

just think, we still have 7-9months before the real fun begins...

ROFL!

+1 rep!

i have a serious question. why would u trade a supercharged cobalt in for a turbocharged? i mean to me im tired of hearing a blow off valve going off every where i go. i love the whine of a supercharger and not every single car out there has a supercharger. i mean ur getting more power out of the turbo but im just saying i hate the blow off valve sound. cant stand it. believe me people turn their heads when they hear the supercharger whine

i personally like the supercharger mainly b/c of the fact i can drive it around without people knowing im supercharged. i've had people mistake my car for a 2.4 ss all the time. hell i had a sprayed civic claim he could beat me. then when we got to the line. he purged and to his distress i purged lol. so he got out of the car and said he wouldnt race unless i didnt spray. so i said ok and disconnected the line at the bottle. so we go and i won 50 bucks. he was quite surprised to fine out i had a supercharger. i love the whine.

thats awesome. great way to rep the balts. i just love the whine so much. cant stand blow off vavles

Exhaust and Intake mods will help with power but tuning direct injection isn't the easiest thing in the world.

Tuning for the Redline Sky and Solstice is 1200 dollars

Exhaust and Intake mods will help with power but tuning direct injection isn't the easiest thing in the world.

Tuning for the Redline Sky and Solstice is 1200 dollars

very true.

Someone stab me in the fucking eye

The car isn't even out and you want to know what aftermarket or upgrades will be out for it?

Does anyone see anything wrong with this?

NO anxious lol just like the new camaro. :cool:

i dont

agreed, while everyone is entitled to their own opinions i will never buy another cobalt again. Sorry if you guys want something that will really run and you like the 4banger scene why don't you get a gxp or sky. At least the major problem is already taken care of rwd. i'm sure it will be cool but i will not fall for this gm cobalt bullshit again sorry. BTW don't mod it gm will say FU when you need warranty work with your performance car that apparently should never be taken to redline.

is is fwd or awd like the gxp

agreed, while everyone is entitled to their own opinions i will never buy another cobalt again. Sorry if you guys want something that will really run and you like the 4banger scene why don't you get a gxp or sky. At least the major problem is already taken care of rwd. i'm sure it will be cool but i will not fall for this gm cobalt bullshit again sorry. BTW don't mod it gm will say FU when you need warranty work with your performance car that apparently should never be taken to redline.

yeah i just made a thread saying most people need to chill out about this whole cobalt turbo thing, its everywhere

when you are done with your eye removing impliment, please pass it around.

thank you.

this is ridiculous how people are going on and on about this turbo balt and its not even out yet. i think its ugly it doesnt look like the ss/sc for some reasons. and those rims on the turbo balt are the ugliest rims i have ever seen.

my new camaro cant come soon enough :D

Can't wait to watch the war stories section awhile from now!!

like zomg guys...go to www.whogivesafuck.com right now...they have a full list of all the aftermarket upgrades


damnn..that link actually work too...hahaha

my new camaro cant come soon enough :D

THANK YOU! Screw the cobalt and fwd bullshit if you wanna go fast get the camaro... I know I will... Going next week to see what i can do about getting on some sort of list for it so I can have one of the first ones. And if i did buy that new cobalt with the almighty "turbo" i would pay gm to not put those ugly as fuck rims on my car. God who the hell thought that those looked good. Jesus </Rant>

http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=82351

THANK YOU! Screw the cobalt and fwd bullshit if you wanna go fast get the camaro... I know I will... Going next week to see what i can do about getting on some sort of list for it so I can have one of the first ones. And if i did buy that new cobalt with the almighty "turbo" i would pay gm to not put those ugly as fuck rims on my car. God who the hell thought that those looked good. Jesus </Rant>


Vette Z06 Rims anyone?;)

holy shit this needs to stop. if you want a turbo so bad do urself a favor and buy one for you ss/sc and not only save money by not having to trade your car in... but also have the satisfaction of having alot more power than you would with the lnf

i wonder if the brembo kit on the 2008 lnf cobalt will fit our ss/sc and for how much they will got for...i am really interested in them since i need new fuckin brakes for mine!!!

okay so heres what ive heard from GMPP.... its gunna have three stage kits... as far as specs on the stage kits im not sure but i know for sure that there are three stage kits...

okay so heres what ive heard from GMPP.... its gunna have three stage kits... as far as specs on the stage kits im not sure but i know for sure that there are three stage kits...

THIS IS WHY I STARTED THIS THREAD, TO BE ENLIGHTENED ON POSSIBLE UPGRADES. NOT SO THE BABIES CAN CRY ABOUT HOW THIER SC IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN THE TC. LETS FORGET ABOUT THE NUMBERS (260HP/ 260TQ STOCK!!). SOME OF US ARE INTERESTED IN THE TURBO COBALTS. WHY MUST YOU RAIN ON OUR PARADE?

you can always add a flux capacitor...
i did that to my 2.2 and phew :bye: Z06's.

THIS IS WHY I STARTED THIS THREAD, TO BE ENLIGHTENED ON POSSIBLE UPGRADES. NOT SO THE BABIES CAN CRY ABOUT HOW THIER SC IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN THE TC. LETS FORGET ABOUT THE NUMBERS (260HP/ 260TQ STOCK!!). SOME OF US ARE INTERESTED IN THE TURBO COBALTS. WHY MUST YOU RAIN ON OUR PARADE?

Well im glad i could answer your question man,.. sorry everyone doesnt agree so yeah thats what ive heard and if you want any more info just pm me or something...

THIS IS WHY I STARTED THIS THREAD, TO BE ENLIGHTENED ON POSSIBLE UPGRADES. NOT SO THE BABIES CAN CRY ABOUT HOW THIER SC IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN THE TC. LETS FORGET ABOUT THE NUMBERS (260HP/ 260TQ STOCK!!). SOME OF US ARE INTERESTED IN THE TURBO COBALTS. WHY MUST YOU RAIN ON OUR PARADE?

Who said that the supercharger was better?

WHY MUST YOU TYPE IN CAPS? LOUD NOISES!

THIS IS WHY I STARTED THIS THREAD, TO BE ENLIGHTENED ON POSSIBLE UPGRADES. NOT SO THE BABIES CAN CRY ABOUT HOW THIER SC IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN THE TC. LETS FORGET ABOUT THE NUMBERS (260HP/ 260TQ STOCK!!). SOME OF US ARE INTERESTED IN THE TURBO COBALTS. WHY MUST YOU RAIN ON OUR PARADE?

wut else is there to be interested in..its only been announced for a few days..its turbocharged......rest is prob all the same except for the obviouse details..like i said before check out

www.whogivesafuck.com

youll find ur answers there

Ya the new Balt shit is dumb. Really they say its suppose to run 14.1. Wow a .3 diff in stock 1/4 mile time vs. ss/sc. its rediculous, just go trade your cars in and get it. Shits funny to me I am sick of all the hipe. Ill roll my ss/sc to the fullest

Ya the new Balt shit is dumb. Really they say its suppose to run 14.1. Wow a .3 diff in stock 1/4 mile time vs. ss/sc. its rediculous, just go trade your cars in and get it. Shits funny to me I am sick of all the hipe. Ill roll my ss/sc to the fullest

Who said that the supercharger was better?

WHY MUST YOU TYPE IN CAPS? LOUD NOISES!

i know..use !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'s.
Just strap a flux capacitor onto your ss/sc and get some drilled slotted brake lines, don't worry about the new LNF, haha.

where can i get some blinker fluid with that...??? same place i can get some elbow grease???

when does the turbo'd cobalt come out in 08?

holy shit this needs to stop. if you want a turbo so bad do urself a favor and buy one for you ss/sc and not only save money by not having to trade your car in... but also have the satisfaction of having alot more power than you would with the lnf
Best f'ing idea I've heard yet! I feel sorry for the people who trade in their SS/SC and take a huge hit in the wallet to get a car that has 260hp when they could add an aftermarket turbo to their SS/SC and get over 300hp! Even if you do have to upgrade your clutch and axles, it will still be cheaper and it won't be the same turbo Cobalt that everyone else has!

its gunna be an 09 model but itll come out halfway in the 08 model year

not that i want to make you balt guy's bust nuts but there is tune's out for the LNF.. 3 stage's..http://www.saturnmotorsports.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=24&products_id=878
seriously i dont know why im posting this...

i have a serious question. why would u trade a supercharged cobalt in for a turbocharged? i mean to me im tired of hearing a blow off valve going off every where i go. i love the whine of a supercharger and not every single car out there has a supercharger. i mean ur getting more power out of the turbo but im just saying i hate the blow off valve sound. cant stand it. believe me people turn their heads when they hear the supercharger whine

THERE IS NO BOV!!!!!!!!!!! (sorry bout caps I had to;) )

It is a bypass valve that doesn't vent to the atmosphere it vents to the intake so you don't really hear it.

Best f'ing idea I've heard yet! I feel sorry for the people who trade in their SS/SC and take a huge hit in the wallet to get a car that has 260hp when they could add an aftermarket turbo to their SS/SC and get over 300hp! Even if you do have to upgrade your clutch and axles, it will still be cheaper and it won't be the same turbo Cobalt that everyone else has!

Well why doesn't everyone just go out and buy a base 2.2L cobalt and swap out the block for the 1.6L GM race block, and then just strap on two GT45 turbos?

I would assume that most people want a little more power, be faster than a S2 ss/sc, and still keep the warranty. Not to mention the car will only be offered for 1.5 years, it will be more rare than the LSJ balt.

Can you LNF haters just STFU!?!?!?!:cussing:

THANK YOU! Screw the cobalt and fwd bullshit if you wanna go fast get the camaro... I know I will... Going next week to see what i can do about getting on some sort of list for it so I can have one of the first ones. And if i did buy that new cobalt with the almighty "turbo" i would pay gm to not put those ugly as fuck rims on my car. God who the hell thought that those looked good. Jesus </Rant>

If you hate the cobalt so much why the hell you even on here?

not that i want to make you balt guy's bust nuts but there is tune's out for the LNF.. 3 stage's..http://www.saturnmotorsports.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=24&products_id=878
seriously i dont know why im posting this...

Uckkkk. $500 for a tuned ecm, and you're car has to be down for 2 weeks while it is getting tuned. :thumbsdow I'm pretty sure everyone is just gonna wait for HPT.

If you hate the cobalt so much why the hell you even on here?

Really, they don't need to read every single post of every single LNF thread do they? :lol:

Me thinks somepeople are jealous. :bye:

Uckkkk. $500 for a tuned ecm, and you're car has to be down for 2 weeks while it is getting tuned. :thumbsdow I'm pretty sure everyone is just gonna wait for HPT.



Really, they don't need to read every single post of every single LNF thread do they? :lol:

Me thinks somepeople are jealous. :bye:

I am some what interested but unless they do some major revisions to the power train its just not worth it because your going to shell out for aftermarket parts in the end anyway.

what does lnf stand for? and why are people bitching about it?

I heard from a guy who knows this guy, who knows this guy, that works for GM performance parts developments that they are going to have blow-off valve kits for the LNF. They will be using a HKS SSQ blow off valve which will also be included with the stage 2 lnf kit.

I heard from a guy who knows this guy, who knows this guy, that works for GM performance parts developments that they are going to have blow-off valve kits for the LNF. They will be using a HKS SSQ blow off valve which will also be included with the stage 2 lnf kit.

LMAO :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

THERE IS NO BOV!!!!!!!!!!! (sorry bout caps I had to;) )

It is a bypass valve that doesn't vent to the atmosphere it vents to the intake so you don't really hear it.



Well why doesn't everyone just go out and buy a base 2.2L cobalt and swap out the block for the 1.6L GM race block, and then just strap on two GT45 turbos?

I would assume that most people want a little more power, be faster than a S2 ss/sc, and still keep the warranty. Not to mention the car will only be offered for 1.5 years, it will be more rare than the LSJ balt.

Can you LNF haters just STFU!?!?!?!:cussing:

Actually my friends GXP, I can hear it loud and clear.

What 1.6L race block?

i'd kill for a lnf balt! period, fuck the haters. you guys are retarded. you just want one.

Actually my friends GXP, I can hear it loud and clear.

What 1.6L race block?

He means the honda one with the V TAK.... watch out for that lag though...

He means the honda one with the V TAK.... watch out for that lag though...

He said "GM 1.6L race block"...so I'm curious where this is

He said "GM 1.6L race block"...so I'm curious where this is

from GM: 1.6L turbocharged engine for the Opel/Chevrolet/Vauxhall Astra and Opel Vauxhall Meriva. In the Opel Astra, this engine (132 kW/180 hp) replaces a 2.0L turbo (125 kW/170 hp) and improves fuel consumption and reduces C02 emissions by 14 percent.

http://www.gm.com/explore/fuel_economy/news/2007/adv_engines/2008-powertrain-lineup-082707.jsp

I really think the TC cobalt will be not alot different. The car is rated at 260hp not whp. It will dyno around 220/230tq I will drive one but i will keep my SC if you guys want faster go build something for potential I bought the car not for a race car but somethng with nice power and to get to point A to point B. Geez its so stupid for everyone to be popping TC chubs just for a BOV thats so dumb.

THIS IS WHY I STARTED THIS THREAD, TO BE ENLIGHTENED ON POSSIBLE UPGRADES. NOT SO THE BABIES CAN CRY ABOUT HOW THIER SC IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN THE TC. LETS FORGET ABOUT THE NUMBERS (260HP/ 260TQ STOCK!!). SOME OF US ARE INTERESTED IN THE TURBO COBALTS. WHY MUST YOU RAIN ON OUR PARADE?

Just to give you a heads up I have read the whole thread and there is not one instance where anyone said that their supercharger is better than the new turbo coming out. STOP STARTING SHIT.

from GM: 1.6L turbocharged engine for the Opel/Chevrolet/Vauxhall Astra and Opel Vauxhall Meriva. In the Opel Astra, this engine (132 kW/180 hp) replaces a 2.0L turbo (125 kW/170 hp) and improves fuel consumption and reduces C02 emissions by 14 percent.

http://www.gm.com/explore/fuel_economy/news/2007/adv_engines/2008-powertrain-lineup-082707.jsp

I know about that engine...but he said a race block.

i'd kill for a lnf balt! period, fuck the haters. you guys are retarded. you just want one.

its actually easier than that...... buy a turbo kit.:rolleyes:

He said "GM 1.6L race block"...so I'm curious where this is

You know, the 1.8L sandwich block used by all the GM dragsters. Item # 88958630

I heard from a guy who knows this guy, who knows this guy, that works for GM performance parts developments that they are going to have blow-off valve kits for the LNF. They will be using a HKS SSQ blow off valve which will also be included with the stage 2 lnf kit.

I hope you're being sarcastic because it's not true.

I hope you're being sarcastic because it's not true.
No seriously, a guy who knows a guy at GM told me. I also heard that the GMPP exahust for the LNF cobalt will have a 3" HKS carbon ti turbo back exhaust.

No seriously, a guy who knows a guy at GM told me. I also heard that the GMPP exahust for the LNF cobalt will have a 3" HKS carbon ti turbo back exhaust.

I think your guy needs to check his guy and make sure he's not on crack. Cause he's pulling your leg with wrong info.

I know a guy who knows a guy who knows a girl who knows a guy who sucks penis for crack on the weekends as a Tranny Hooker on the docks in New York City.

True Story.

ok no guy here except Tom at CED, the Solstice and Sky will have a stg 2 290hp kit
in 4-6 mos so its easy to think that a 280-290 stg 2 CSS-T kit will be released afterwards!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfSrVQEUpLw

enjoy!

ok no guy here except Tom at CED, the Solstice and Sky will have a stg 2 290hp kit
in 4-6 mos so its easy to think that a 280-290 stg 2 CSS-T kit will be released afterwards!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfSrVQEUpLw

enjoy!

im sorry but that is the ugliest damn thing i ever seen

im sorry but that is the ugliest damn thing i ever seen

think corvette 60's speedster, etc.
listen to the 290HP stage 2 talk tho...

ok no guy here except Tom at CED, the Solstice and Sky will have a stg 2 290hp kit
in 4-6 mos so its easy to think that a 280-290 stg 2 CSS-T kit will be released afterwards!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfSrVQEUpLw

enjoy!

Wow, clear as day it says stage 2 kit. That LNF could be a monster.
I can only imagine a stage 3 big turbo swap.

awesome that is gonna be sick

Wow, clear as day it says stage 2 kit. That LNF could be a monster.
I can only imagine a stage 3 big turbo swap.

not going to be easy with the dual scroll turbo unless everything is swapped out ;)
at 290 hp GM should be proud, they knocked the 2.0 4G63 off the top 4cyl hp production engine

Just to give you a heads up I have read the whole thread and there is not one instance where anyone said that their supercharger is better than the new turbo coming out. STOP STARTING SHIT.

if you think you shouldn't trade in your ss/sc because the turbo isnt worth it than thats exactly what your saying. stock for stock the turbo is a better performance wise. to trade in your ss/sc for the turbo is not worth it. i own a 2.4L SS and i will be trading it in because it is worth it to me. if you are are anti turbo then you are in the wrong discussion. im not putting down the ss/sc guys because there is nothing wrong with them, but to me a turbo cobalt is gonna superior to the supercharged as far as performance goes.
JUST MY OPINION AND JUST MY MONEY
<-- FUTURE TURBO OWNER WITH A SMILE ON HIS FACE

ok no guy here except Tom at CED, the Solstice and Sky will have a stg 2 290hp kit
in 4-6 mos so its easy to think that a 280-290 stg 2 CSS-T kit will be released afterwards!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfSrVQEUpLw

enjoy!

Hells yeah!!

Stage 2 LNF cobalt FTMFW!!

That's about the same power level that all the LSJ guys start popping pistons.:lol:

Hells yeah!!

Stage 2 LNF cobalt FTMFW!!

That's about the same power level that all the LSJ guys start popping pistons.:lol:

YOu are something else man!

I know a guy who knows a guy who knows a girl who knows a guy who sucks penis for crack on the weekends as a Tranny Hooker on the docks in New York City.

True Story.

Was that the girl you introduced me to last Thursday?


...on a more serious note
I lol'd really loudly (so loud my brother looked at me funny in fact..) when I read the "i know a guy who knows they're releasing a blow off valve" post.

I've spent two days reading about this engine, and I know already that without heavy tuning, or a MAF bypass, this engine will not have a BOV that exhausts into the atmosphere. The engine was built around a system which returns the air into the intake. If you were to remove that extra air from the intake, the engine would not run well at all because it's expecting certain amounts of air.

not going to be easy with the dual scroll turbo unless everything is swapped out ;)
at 290 hp GM should be proud knocked the 2.0 4G63 off the top 4cyl hp production engine
Too bad the 4g63 has a bazillion times more potential at making power.

once this beast has been out for a year or so and they have the gm year end clearances and there are some decent aftermarket upgrades out there i may have to trade in my car. ;)

sweet deal with the stage two stuff...but ill still say to those people that are going to trade their ss/sc for the ss/tc......if you were going to turbo your LSJ and build that you could get 350whp for less money then you would to buy the new ss/tc and get that same hp.....it just doesnt make sense.

^new car, warrenty...same reasons anyone wants to buy new cars

i need to know what the 1/4 might be b/c i'm torn between the t/c balt and 09 camaro. i know big difference right? but if the 1/4 is going to be extremely fast then i'd rather have the balt instead of spending a ton of money on the camaro

How much do you think the brembo kit would cost to upgrade my car?

Well i've already emailed crate engine depot, and what they said was that late next year they will offer the new upgrades as far as suspesion and braking to the ss/sc crowd. Also the lnf ass a crate motor.

its easy to get more power. do away with all the plastic piping and run 3in. pipe. fab up a intake and header back exhaust and tune it and your looking at close to 300 horses.

its easy to get more power. do away with all the plastic piping and run 3in. pipe. fab up a intake and header back exhaust and tune it and your looking at close to 300 horses.

Running wider charge piping has been throwing CEL's, triggering limp-mode, or showing zero gains in the Sol/Skys. And a tune is gonna be a bitch, due to the DI and the thousands of fuel/timing parameters. Why do you think that there is only one company selling a canned tune so far? And why does that tune cost $1K? Its not as easy as you think.

Running wider charge piping has been throwing CEL's, triggering limp-mode, or showing zero gains in the Sol/Skys. And a tune is gonna be a bitch, due to the DI and the thousands of fuel/timing parameters. Why do you think that there is only one company selling a canned tune so far? And why does that tune cost $1K? Its not as easy as you think.

for the record there's a guy on the RLForums. who has a sky RL retuned BONE stock and its makin some serious HP.. IIRC its like 275hp and 305 tq at the wheel's STOCK.. jus retuned for 23psi.. which is the turbo's MAX.. but he has NO issue's..

think he was mainly talking about GMPP, i'm sure they'll have at least 1 stage kit.

funny thing is, I was talking to Mike from New Era Performance (one of the supporting vendors, and local shops) and he called this whole LNF thing about 6 months ago, he already seemed to know for a fact the cobalt was going turbo and the pcm was changing, according to what he said back then, is the pcm is really hard to change, it works well as is, but doesnt sit well with changes

im sure HPT will have a field day..

really man if you trade in your 07 ss/sc for a 08 ss/tc your really stupid, you be losing a lot of money if you trade in your car and plus its not worth it just because it has more hp and a turbo all u have to do is mod up ur supercharger and you be kicking the ss/tc you got to think with your head first man

Running wider charge piping has been throwing CEL's, triggering limp-mode, or showing zero gains in the Sol/Skys. And a tune is gonna be a bitch, due to the DI and the thousands of fuel/timing parameters. Why do you think that there is only one company selling a canned tune so far? And why does that tune cost $1K? Its not as easy as you think.

the plastic piimg from the factory i would guess a 2.5 or 3inch so swaping to stainless shouldnt thorw a cel code. there is a reason there is a dyno its called a custom tune.

for the record there's a guy on the RLForums. who has a sky RL retuned BONE stock and its makin some serious HP.. IIRC its like 275hp and 305 tq at the wheel's STOCK.. jus retuned for 23psi.. which is the turbo's MAX.. but he has NO issue's..

Yeah, and thats the bsr tune that I was talking about, for $1K. You didn't think he just bought HPT and popped out a tune in 10 minutes like you can on the ss/sc, did you?

the plastic piimg from the factory i would guess a 2.5 or 3inch so swaping to stainless shouldnt thorw a cel code. there is a reason there is a dyno its called a custom tune.

Even that little increase in airflow is too much for the pcm to read. And, yes there are custom tunes. But, if you go to a reliable dyno shop and ask them to tune, they will tell you they have to hold the car there for 2+ weeks. That is, of course, if you want any measureable gains.

But, if you go to a reliable dyno shop and ask them to tune, they will tell you they have to hold the car there for 2+ weeks. That is, of course, if you want any measureable gains.
:lol: :lol: If any shop has a bit of tuning knowledge or common sense, they can tune a car right on in a matter of a few hours at most.

^^exactly and im sure all of us with a supercharged cobalt have a reliable tune we know and trust.

You guys obviously haven't looked at the LNF on HPT, so I'm not gonna argue what you guys "think".

there r other systems you can use other hp tuners.

You guys obviously haven't looked at the LNF on HPT, so I'm not gonna argue what you guys "think".
Have you, or are you just going by forum BS?

Originally Posted by CobaltSSEric
i have a serious question. why would u trade a supercharged cobalt in for a turbocharged? i mean to me im tired of hearing a blow off valve going off every where i go. i love the whine of a supercharger and not every single car out there has a supercharger. i mean ur getting more power out of the turbo but im just saying i hate the blow off valve sound. cant stand it. believe me people turn their heads when they hear the supercharger whine

As much as I like to hear the whine on the SS/SC, and yes you don't hear many S/C'd cars on the road which makes ours more unique, GM switching to the turbo makes alot more sense, It'll get way better mileage, instead of our SC's sucking down the gas, and turbo's have more potential whether we want to admit it or not so it was a goog move. Also I have not driven the Solstice GXP or Sky Redline but my dad who is a test driver at GM's Milford Proving grounds has test driven the HHR SS and he said that he didn't hear any sound of air being exherted from a blow off valve. So who knows you may even have to equip it with a blow off valve to get that sound.

Originally Posted by CobaltSSEric
i have a serious question. why would u trade a supercharged cobalt in for a turbocharged? i mean to me im tired of hearing a blow off valve going off every where i go. i love the whine of a supercharger and not every single car out there has a supercharger. i mean ur getting more power out of the turbo but im just saying i hate the blow off valve sound. cant stand it. believe me people turn their heads when they hear the supercharger whine

As much as I like to hear the whine on the SS/SC, and yes you don't hear many S/C'd cars on the road which makes ours more unique, GM switching to the turbo makes alot more sense, It'll get way better mileage, instead of our SC's sucking down the gas, and turbo's have more potential whether we want to admit it or not so it was a goog move. Also I have not driven the Solstice GXP or Sky Redline but my dad who is a test driver at GM's Milford Proving grounds has test driven the HHR SS and he said that he didn't hear any sound of air being exherted from a blow off valve. So who knows you may even have to equip it with a blow off valve to get that sound.

Ask your dad if he can give me a job...

That must be sick.

Ask your dad if he can give me a job...

That must be sick.

x2 :guns:

he said that he didn't hear any sound of air being exherted from a blow off valve. So who knows you may even have to equip it with a blow off valve to get that sound.
That's becuase they are not using a blow-off valve that releases pressure outside of the system.

Something to think about. The Cobalt SS/SC had some issues, I am wondering if GM addressed them on the new car? Examples would be wheel hop, I have heard axels are not as strong as they should be and finally there has been discussions on this site about weak steering knuckles. More power just compounds these problems. Just some discussion points.