Keep your blower cars do not trade for the 08 turbo.
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Keep your blower cars do not trade for the 08 turbo.
The new 2008 Turbo car cobalt is just like my dads soltics GXP.
It very very hard to do anything to. To make more power.
The problem is the turbo is max at 20 psi and the fuel system is 500-1000 PSI of fuel pressure. Also the lower compression ratio does not help.
So tunring and nitrous and other mods are very hard to do if any.
There are only a few mods that can be done.
There is a computer tune that can give you 50 HP and GMpp exsaute that can give you 10 HP but the gmpp down pipe was a down grade because you lose .5psi of boost.
I have a totaled cobalt ss at my house I got from a insurance company and I am doing a engine swap for my dad GXP soltice I am going to install the ss blower motor with upgrade and piston and a 2.7 pully with 60lb injectors and a tune. Then I will do a 50 Shot of nitrous. That will give him about 360 horspower plus the rear end gear upgrade will help to. I am taking his orriginal motor and left over parts and put them in a crate and place them in the shead wrap in plastice just incase he wants to go back to stock.
I should have pics soon. about 1 month. its a easy swap. I have done a lot of engine swaps Celicas and hondas and trans ams. This will be the easest.
It very very hard to do anything to. To make more power.
The problem is the turbo is max at 20 psi and the fuel system is 500-1000 PSI of fuel pressure. Also the lower compression ratio does not help.
So tunring and nitrous and other mods are very hard to do if any.
There are only a few mods that can be done.
There is a computer tune that can give you 50 HP and GMpp exsaute that can give you 10 HP but the gmpp down pipe was a down grade because you lose .5psi of boost.
I have a totaled cobalt ss at my house I got from a insurance company and I am doing a engine swap for my dad GXP soltice I am going to install the ss blower motor with upgrade and piston and a 2.7 pully with 60lb injectors and a tune. Then I will do a 50 Shot of nitrous. That will give him about 360 horspower plus the rear end gear upgrade will help to. I am taking his orriginal motor and left over parts and put them in a crate and place them in the shead wrap in plastice just incase he wants to go back to stock.
I should have pics soon. about 1 month. its a easy swap. I have done a lot of engine swaps Celicas and hondas and trans ams. This will be the easest.
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The new 2008 Turbo car cobalt is just like my dads soltics GXP.
It very very hard to do anything to. To make more power.
The problem is the turbo is max at 20 psi and the fuel system is 500-1000 PSI of fuel pressure. Also the lower compression ratio does not help.
So tunring and nitrous and other mods are very hard to do if any.
There are only a few mods that can be done.
There is a computer tune that can give you 50 HP and GMpp exsaute that can give you 10 HP but the gmpp down pipe was a down grade because you lose .5psi of boost.
I have a totaled cobalt ss at my house I got from a insurance company and I am doing a engine swap for my dad GXP soltice I am going to install the ss blower motor with upgrade and piston and a 2.7 pully with 60lb injectors and a tune. Then I will do a 50 Shot of nitrous. That will give him about 360 horspower plus the rear end gear upgrade will help to. I am taking his orriginal motor and left over parts and put them in a crate and place them in the shead wrap in plastice just incase he wants to go back to stock.
I should have pics soon. about 1 month. its a easy swap. I have done a lot of engine swaps Celicas and hondas and trans ams. This will be the easest.
It very very hard to do anything to. To make more power.
The problem is the turbo is max at 20 psi and the fuel system is 500-1000 PSI of fuel pressure. Also the lower compression ratio does not help.
So tunring and nitrous and other mods are very hard to do if any.
There are only a few mods that can be done.
There is a computer tune that can give you 50 HP and GMpp exsaute that can give you 10 HP but the gmpp down pipe was a down grade because you lose .5psi of boost.
I have a totaled cobalt ss at my house I got from a insurance company and I am doing a engine swap for my dad GXP soltice I am going to install the ss blower motor with upgrade and piston and a 2.7 pully with 60lb injectors and a tune. Then I will do a 50 Shot of nitrous. That will give him about 360 horspower plus the rear end gear upgrade will help to. I am taking his orriginal motor and left over parts and put them in a crate and place them in the shead wrap in plastice just incase he wants to go back to stock.
I should have pics soon. about 1 month. its a easy swap. I have done a lot of engine swaps Celicas and hondas and trans ams. This will be the easest.
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this is what i have to say about the turboed cars out there. why would u trade a supercharged cobalt in for a turbocharged? i mean to me im tired of hearing a blow off valve going off every where i go. i love the whine of a supercharger and not every single car out there has a supercharger. i mean ur getting more power out of the turbo but im just saying i hate the blow off valve sound. cant stand it. believe me people turn their heads when they hear the supercharger whine
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You might lose boost but you increase flow which = more power. Sorry but something does not seem believable about this entire thread. More power to you if it is true though.
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I have the the entire front of a cobalt ss including the PCM.
All the cables in the dash have the same connectors.
But the ss wiring harness on the engine the cables are to short I will have to extend them to reach. Also the transmissin sensor for reverse is a differnt part number so I am not sure if It will work yet may not have any reverse lights.
This is what I wanted to do. But it cost to much.
All the cables in the dash have the same connectors.
But the ss wiring harness on the engine the cables are to short I will have to extend them to reach. Also the transmissin sensor for reverse is a differnt part number so I am not sure if It will work yet may not have any reverse lights.
This is what I wanted to do. But it cost to much.
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Trust me, the LNF is going to be a great car for the tuner market. They are working on the tuning issues and the turbo is NOT maxed out from the factory. I believe it is efficent to 25psi or slightly more.
The fueling system will be great once they figure out how to tune everything.
The reason the DP gave the car a .5 psi lost was because the increased flow.
I am not a LNF leg humper by any means, if its price is reasonable when it comes out I may consider buying it. I am sure GM can see that the stage kits for the SS/SC are a big hit and I am sure they will produce stage kits for the SS/TC when tuning is sorted out.
Just my 2 cents.
The fueling system will be great once they figure out how to tune everything.
The reason the DP gave the car a .5 psi lost was because the increased flow.
I am not a LNF leg humper by any means, if its price is reasonable when it comes out I may consider buying it. I am sure GM can see that the stage kits for the SS/SC are a big hit and I am sure they will produce stage kits for the SS/TC when tuning is sorted out.
Just my 2 cents.
The new 2008 Turbo car cobalt is just like my dads soltics GXP.
It very very hard to do anything to. To make more power.
The problem is the turbo is max at 20 psi and the fuel system is 500-1000 PSI of fuel pressure. Also the lower compression ratio does not help.
So tunring and nitrous and other mods are very hard to do if any.
There are only a few mods that can be done.
There is a computer tune that can give you 50 HP and GMpp exsaute that can give you 10 HP but the gmpp down pipe was a down grade because you lose .5psi of boost.
I have a totaled cobalt ss at my house I got from a insurance company and I am doing a engine swap for my dad GXP soltice I am going to install the ss blower motor with upgrade and piston and a 2.7 pully with 60lb injectors and a tune. Then I will do a 50 Shot of nitrous. That will give him about 360 horspower plus the rear end gear upgrade will help to. I am taking his orriginal motor and left over parts and put them in a crate and place them in the shead wrap in plastice just incase he wants to go back to stock.
I should have pics soon. about 1 month. its a easy swap. I have done a lot of engine swaps Celicas and hondas and trans ams. This will be the easest.
It very very hard to do anything to. To make more power.
The problem is the turbo is max at 20 psi and the fuel system is 500-1000 PSI of fuel pressure. Also the lower compression ratio does not help.
So tunring and nitrous and other mods are very hard to do if any.
There are only a few mods that can be done.
There is a computer tune that can give you 50 HP and GMpp exsaute that can give you 10 HP but the gmpp down pipe was a down grade because you lose .5psi of boost.
I have a totaled cobalt ss at my house I got from a insurance company and I am doing a engine swap for my dad GXP soltice I am going to install the ss blower motor with upgrade and piston and a 2.7 pully with 60lb injectors and a tune. Then I will do a 50 Shot of nitrous. That will give him about 360 horspower plus the rear end gear upgrade will help to. I am taking his orriginal motor and left over parts and put them in a crate and place them in the shead wrap in plastice just incase he wants to go back to stock.
I should have pics soon. about 1 month. its a easy swap. I have done a lot of engine swaps Celicas and hondas and trans ams. This will be the easest.
haha 360... haha ya i don't think you could do it with a 100 shot barely
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just like anyother car made for performance i highly doubt that the stock turbo is gonna last long if any time at all...people waiting to get the lnf prolly already have there turbo picked out and what set up there gonna do before getting the car..i know i have a few ideas
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Turbo cars will always make more power period, if you dont like a blow off valve dont use one, vent it. Your going to make big power from the lnf i would think by lets say a 50trim, front mount, turbo-back and tuning, do you have a dyno sheet for your 293hp in your sig?
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Yes I will post my dyno sheet tomarrow that is flywheel horspower by the way. using 13% drive train loss. I only dyno 260 hp to the wheels. and 231 tq its not that high I am only using bost to increase my power not a tune.
I plan to wire up AEM piggy back to try to get my numbers up.
Or get Hp tuner software not sure yet. that is on hold right know. Becuase my car is still under wanrrenty and This way i can revert it to stock in about 45 minutes I have a second stock blower with no mods that I can place on the car for warrenty.
I plan to wire up AEM piggy back to try to get my numbers up.
Or get Hp tuner software not sure yet. that is on hold right know. Becuase my car is still under wanrrenty and This way i can revert it to stock in about 45 minutes I have a second stock blower with no mods that I can place on the car for warrenty.
Yes I will post my dyno sheet tomarrow that is flywheel horspower by the way. using 13% drive train loss. I only dyno 260 hp to the wheels. and 231 tq its not that high I am only using bost to increase my power not a tune.
I plan to wire up AEM piggy back to try to get my numbers up.
Or get Hp tuner software not sure yet. that is on hold right know. Becuase my car is still under wanrrenty and This way i can revert it to stock in about 45 minutes I have a second stock blower with no mods that I can place on the car for warrenty.
I plan to wire up AEM piggy back to try to get my numbers up.
Or get Hp tuner software not sure yet. that is on hold right know. Becuase my car is still under wanrrenty and This way i can revert it to stock in about 45 minutes I have a second stock blower with no mods that I can place on the car for warrenty.
i do not believe a thing in your sig, first of all what are u using for tuning cuz ud have to have some sort of tuning done and no where does it mention tuning on your sig, its hard to believe w/out some kind of proof and dont just say stage 2 cuz ur car would run sickly rich if u had just a stage 2 tune
once proof is shown maybe ill believe yah, until than i dont know
and i for one think swapping a 2.0 LSJ into a soltice is retarded, the LNF will get all the market in less than 2 years, than ull be bitching that you dont have any market support
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yea..it's a given that all factory turbos basically suck ass...i mean come on..the srt-4 turbo is the same as on the PT Cruiser turbo, it's ****, that's why you put a different/bigger turbo on it, sure you would max out at ONLY, ONLY ONLY, ONLY ONLY, 20 PSI on the stock turbo, who cares, get a bigger one..no manufacturer is going to put a turbonetics 50 trim on a car STOCK! psh. lol.
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i do not believe a thing in your sig, first of all what are u using for tuning cuz ud have to have some sort of tuning done and no where does it mention tuning on your sig, its hard to believe w/out some kind of proof and dont just say stage 2 cuz ur car would run sickly rich if u had just a stage 2 tune
once proof is shown maybe ill believe yah, until than i dont know
and i for one think swapping a 2.0 LSJ into a soltice is retarded, the LNF will get all the market in less than 2 years, than ull be bitching that you dont have any market support
once proof is shown maybe ill believe yah, until than i dont know
and i for one think swapping a 2.0 LSJ into a soltice is retarded, the LNF will get all the market in less than 2 years, than ull be bitching that you dont have any market support
MAFT 6.22 is what I am using for tuning but it can only do so much.
honestly, if its at 20psi stock and only making 260, theres some big restrictions somewhere...however, i see this as a great chance to upgrade. port n polish and a turbo back exhaust would net huge gains with that kind of pressure buildup in the manifold. might wanna look into the stock cam profile too to see if that is another restriction