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boosthard05 11-02-2007, 10:55 AM yeah... so ive been contemplating trading my 05 IRL in on one of these since GM isnt going to be putting the LNF into the Astra and the ION is dead :(
Does anyone know what they will be asking for the new SS/TC?
i owe $20k on my IRL but thast with a 100,000k warranty, gap insurance, and a maintinence plan.
i should get more on trade in with all of that shouldnt i?
the car was originaly $18.5k then we got the extended warranty, ect.
D4u2s0t 11-02-2007, 10:57 AM no, you will not get more trade in. with the new cobalt you will probably get less trade in because less people will want it. and nobody knows what the price will be. i would expect it to be higher than the ss/sc though.
johnkb8 11-02-2007, 11:00 AM i owe $20k on my IRL but thast with a 100,000k warranty, gap insurance, and a maintinence plan.
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i cant believe you still owe 20k on a 2005 saturn...wow that sucks, how many miles are on it?
have you not made any payments in a couple years or something?? :wtf:
am i confused here or something...my 2005 cobalt has like $6,500 left to pay
boosthard05 11-02-2007, 11:09 AM i cant believe you still owe 20k on a 2005 saturn...wow that sucks, how many miles are on it?
have you not made any payments in a couple years or something?? :wtf:
am i confused here or something...my 2005 cobalt has like $6,500 left to pay
Do you not know how to read?
I bought the car fully loaded for $18.5k may of 06 pretty much new with 7K on the odo, theres a little (and i do mean little) over 30k on the odo now.
after the 100k warranty, gap insurance, and maintinence plan it came out to $25k out the door, i acctualy owe a little under $20k now. but i dont owe that much on the car itself.
like i said, the initial price of the car was $18.5k so im mainly paying off the extras
if the cobalt is too much ill prolly just swap a GT series turbo onto the LSJ.
johnkb8 11-02-2007, 11:13 AM i owe $20k on my IRL but thast with a 100,000k warranty, gap insurance, and a maintinence plan.
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i do know how to read
i dont know if you know how to type yet
"i owe $20k on my IRL"
now my turn...
"i owe $6,500 on my Cobalt SS"
would you like to try again?
"i acctualy owe a little under $20k now. but i dont owe that much on the car itself"
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:wtf: soo how much is left to pay on the car!!
if what your typing is true, your shit out of luck, cause that trade in on that car today is under $13,000
you might be able to sell it for $14,000 and yes this is priced out loaded, which pretty much just means you have a sunroof
ps i think you got jack with these "extras" you got
the 100k warrenty, thats alright...anything else is a scam
and you paid $25,000 for a 2005 Saturn IRL with 7k mile on it
you got jacked on that too my friend
do you know how to read?
07 SS/SC 11-02-2007, 11:41 AM For trade in, I think they will offer you 12k if not less. I know that sounds harsh but its the truth.
I would guess that a loaded SS/TC will go for over 25k
Rangerondubz 11-02-2007, 11:45 AM Werd Up
boosthard05 11-02-2007, 11:49 AM i do know how to read
i dont know if you know how to type yet
"i owe $20k on my IRL"
now my turn...
"i owe $6,500 on my Cobalt SS"
would you like to try again?
:wtf: soo how much is left to pay on the car!!
if what your typing is true, your shit out of luck, cause that trade in on that car today is under $13,000
you might be able to sell it for $14,000 and yes this is priced out loaded, which pretty much just means you have a sunroof
ps i think you got jack with these "extras" you got
the 100k warrenty, thats alright...anything else is a scam
and you paid $25,000 for a 2005 Saturn IRL with 7k mile on it
you got jacked on that too my friend
do you know how to read?
LOL... gap insurance is a life saver. those "extras" were all maintinence plans, warranty extentions, ect...
i dont think i got jacked, i bought a late model 2005 RL in early 06 with low miles for $18.5k it was my choice to get the extra stuff... which has come in very handy and saved me alot of money so far.
johnkb8 11-02-2007, 11:56 AM i dont think i got jacked, i bought a late model 2005 RL in early 06 with low miles for $18.5k it was my choice to get the extra stuff... which has come in very handy and saved me alot of money so far.
ok soo you save a lot of money soo far...you owe almost $20,000 on a car that has trade in value of under $13,000, didny you save money there??
i guess u "saved" if car gets totaled and gap insurance comes into play, and thats pretty much the only way you are not going to lose a lot of money on this car
correct?
For trade in, I think they will offer you 12k if not less. I know that sounds harsh but its the truth.
I would guess that a loaded SS/TC will go for over 25k
i agree, but SS/TC might even me like 26k with options or even 27k
only time will tell, i hope its under 25k!!
07 SS/SC 11-02-2007, 12:02 PM I wouldnt be suprised to see the SS/TC in the 27K range.
I dont intend to buy the SS/TC but if I do, I will get my GMS pricing which is nice. I paid 19k for my brand new 07 SS/SC WOOT!!!
johnkb8 11-02-2007, 12:03 PM I wouldnt be suprised to see the SS/TC in the 27K range.
I dont intend to buy the SS/TC but if I do, I will get my GMS pricing which is nice. I paid 19k for my brand new 07 SS/SC WOOT!!!
My employee pricing came to $21,800 out the door!! w/ sunroof and dealer tinted whole car
and thats for a 2005 SS/SC in April of 2005, with 10 miles on it...pretty good deal, huh boostedhard
done with this thread, bye ladies!
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Scythe_Snake 11-02-2007, 12:06 PM I still believe base price for the SS/TC will be like....23K with no options. With options, easily at least 26-27K, in range with the mazdaspeed 3.
R&C_rallySS 11-02-2007, 12:14 PM My employee pricing came to $21,800 out the door!! w/ sunroof and dealer tinted whole car
and thats for a 2005 SS/SC in April of 2005, with 10 miles on it...pretty good deal, huh boostedhard
done with this thread, bye ladies!
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I agree with you. I got a 2006 Cobalt SS/SC fully loaded with the G85 package. Walked out the door with a 75k/5year ext. warnity and gap insurance for 22k out the door. Also got 0% intrest on the loan :twothumbs
I owe about 17k on mine and I have 8k miles. Trade in value is 18k, privite is 20k, and retail is 22k. I should make out decent by the time the SS/TC comes out if I don't keep mine. We will see how I run tonight at the track :)
johnkb8 11-02-2007, 12:20 PM I agree with you. I got a 2006 Cobalt SS/SC fully loaded with the G85 package. Walked out the door with a 75k/5year ext. warnity and gap insurance for 22k out the door. Also got 0% intrest on the loan :twothumbs
I owe about 17k on mine and I have 8k miles. Trade in value is 18k, privite is 20k, and retail is 22k. I should make out decent by the time the SS/TC comes out if I don't keep mine. We will see how I run tonight at the track :)
PM your times dude!
good luck!
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cds00bsmg 11-02-2007, 12:25 PM I agree with you. I got a 2006 Cobalt SS/SC fully loaded with the G85 package. Walked out the door with a 75k/5year ext. warnity and gap insurance for 22k out the door. Also got 0% intrest on the loan :twothumbs
I owe about 17k on mine and I have 8k miles. Trade in value is 18k, privite is 20k, and retail is 22k. I should make out decent by the time the SS/TC comes out if I don't keep mine. We will see how I run tonight at the track :)
KBB and NADA value are bullshit on these cars. They never sell for that. Let me know when you see an 06 or 05 with low miles selling for anything over $16k. (look at ebay, look at how many sell for anywhere $18k on here, the market isn't there for these cars) I have a dealers liscense, I can buy 05, and 06 SS/SC's or ION RL's at auction all day long for $11k (or less, no more than $13k) with under 30k on the clock.
I sold an 05 SS/SC with 17k miles on it, stage 2 for $15k. There were a gang of them on here for sale, and all over the internet at that time, and few if any of them sold higher than $14k let alone $15k.
If you want to trade-in, you will get around $12k.....
In all actuality, its much easier to sell a 4dr cobalt than it is to sell an SS/SC. Not everyone wants an SS/SC, or can afford one. Those that want one are generally 16-early 20yr olds who need a co-signer, have little money, and cannot get it. Therefore the car that falls into the grouping of practical and necessary is the better seller because it meets more demographic criteria (the 4 door).
boosthard05 11-02-2007, 12:27 PM When i got the car i wasnt planning on getting rid of it for a LOOONG time.
Im still not really planning on it, was just curious about what the new balt was gonna cost.
In all reality ill prolly keep the RL and just swap to turbo...
@ 20psi i could easily make over 100whp more than the SS/TC... 20psi for 240whp is kinda weak. Im prolly making that if not more right now with less than $500 invested into the motor.
im still really biased towards the looks of the Rl over the Balt too.
KBB and NADA value are bullshit on these cars. They never sell for that. Let me know when you see an 06 or 05 with low miles selling for anything over $16k. (look at ebay, look at how many sell for anywhere $18k on here, the market isn't there for these cars) I have a dealers liscense, I can buy 05, and 06 SS/SC's or ION RL's at auction all day long for $11k (or less, no more than $13k) with under 30k on the clock.
I sold an 05 SS/SC with 17k miles on it, stage 2 for $15k. There were a gang of them on here for sale, and all over the internet at that time, and few if any of them sold higher than $14k let alone $15k.
If you want to trade-in, you will get around $12k.....
In all actuality, its much easier to sell a 4dr cobalt than it is to sell an SS/SC. Not everyone wants an SS/SC, or can afford one. Those that want one are generally 16-early 20yr olds who need a co-signer, have little money, and cannot get it. Therefore the car that falls into the grouping of practical and necessary is the better seller because it meets more demographic criteria (the 4 door).
This fact is hugely dependent on where you live. Where I live, two dealers I've talked to have lists of people waiting to get their hands on an SS/SC. The dealer told me straight up that they will flip the car in less then 7 days.
cds00bsmg 11-02-2007, 12:54 PM This fact is hugely dependent on where you live. Where I live, two dealers I've talked to have lists of people waiting to get their hands on an SS/SC. The dealer told me straight up that they will flip the car in less then 7 days.
Its not hugely dependent, if that were true then what you are saying is: I could sell an SS/SC easily in any state but mine? It plays a small role, but the type of car, and the amount of them being produced, as well as their price play a larger role. (You can get a used mustang GT, etc. which appeals to more buyers).
But look at all of the SS/SC's on here that are a hard sell. Thats not just my specific area/state. Look at all of them on ebay as well. Most of them never meet reserve, or sell. I know dealers around here that have new ones, and used, and they have been on the lot for months.
The car is a hard sell based on the type of car. Its not a car that appeals to everyone. If you want a fast car most people aren't willing to pay the price of a Cobalt, then stick all the cash into it that it takes to run 11's, etc. There are many more cars out there (fox body mustangs, etc.) that you can make fast for less, and drive daily, etc.
All cobalts at this point are hard to sell used because you can buy a new LS for $10,700 or so....
aj_92rs 11-02-2007, 01:29 PM This fact is hugely dependent on where you live.
You are correct.
codyss 11-02-2007, 02:21 PM Here in Nebraska I got $14,500 trade in on my 2005 SS/SC with Stage2 and 12,000 miles.
It took the dealership two months to sell it and they got $14,000 for it. Im so glad they made nothing off my car since they were text book salesmen and tried to fuck me any way they could.
And sorry boosthard05 but you got the backdoor treatment on your car. Gap is a waste and the other insurance/warranty is worthless.
And I would really hope the 2008 SS/T is no more than the previous SC model. If it is GM is screwing people. Your getting the same damn car with what $100 more worth the calipers and stupid wheels. There is no way the LNF costs that much more to make than the LSJ.
D4u2s0t 11-02-2007, 02:26 PM Here in Nebraska I got $14,500 trade in on my 2005 SS/SC with Stage2 and 12,000 miles.
It took the dealership two months to sell it and they got $14,000 for it. Im so glad they made nothing off my car since they were text book salesmen and tried to fuck me any way they could.
And sorry boosthard05 but you got the backdoor treatment on your car. Gap is a waste and the other insurance/warranty is worthless.
And I would really hope the 2008 SS/T is no more than the previous SC model. If it is GM is screwing people. Your getting the same damn car with what $100 more worth the calipers and stupid wheels. There is no way the LNF costs that much more to make than the LSJ.
tell that to my brother who bought a car for 20,000 and one month later totalled the car from a hit and run driver. without gap the insurance would have given my brother 14,000. 6,000 out of pocket, and no car, because you got a hit and run. yea, sounds pretty worthless to me :lol:
REIGN SS 11-02-2007, 02:33 PM tell that to my brother who bought a car for 20,000 and one month later totalled the car from a hit and run driver. without gap the insurance would have given my brother 14,000. 6,000 out of pocket, and no car, because you got a hit and run. yea, sounds pretty worthless to me :lol:
no shit, my gap coverage was $480 for the length of the loan, that is cheap security right there incase i get into an accident.
aj_92rs 11-02-2007, 02:36 PM Check for the price of gap insurance through your own insurance company. Mine cost me $6 every 6 months.
jenzocobaltss 11-02-2007, 05:20 PM i gotta agree with it depends on where u live.. cause when my car got totalled i got 22k for it.. and i only paid 21 out the door... there are also ss/sc selling for almost the full sticker price with 25 to 30k miles here... ur best bet if u wanted to trade it in.. is see what cities around u offer the most money.. sure u might have to drive a few hundred miles to sell the car.. but isnt a few hundren miles worth a couple if not more thousand dollars
Psykostevo 11-02-2007, 05:26 PM yeah... so ive been contemplating trading my 05 IRL in on one of these since GM isnt going to be putting the LNF into the Astra and the ION is dead :(
Does anyone know what they will be asking for the new SS/TC?
i owe $20k on my IRL but thast with a 100,000k warranty, gap insurance, and a maintinence plan.
i should get more on trade in with all of that shouldnt i?
the car was originaly $18.5k then we got the extended warranty, ect.
You owe 20k on a 2 year old car that you bought for about the same price? Sorry dudicles, but it's worth about 12k. Better keep a steady job and just make your payments.
Seriously though, The warranty cannot be transferred to a dealership, so you will have to cash it out and get back what little residual value it has. And GAP does not translate over either, that is a lost cause. Basically you are 8k upside down minus a FEW hundred dollars in remaining warranty value. :,-(
GAP on my GTO is about $1.40 a month. Well worth it. Dealerships over charge you by atleast 100% so they can make money. Same with the Warranty etc. My warranty was $1,300 and I never used it. Cashed it in a year later for only $700. You probably got beat up on the warranty price.
codyss 11-02-2007, 08:09 PM Yep,
Dealer provide GAP = Rape
Insurance provided GAP = Deal
Anyway you slice it it's just insurance companies making more money off you because they know they are going to fuck you somehow.
JKennedy1612 11-02-2007, 08:15 PM For trade in, I think they will offer you 12k if not less. I know that sounds harsh but its the truth.
I would guess that a loaded SS/TC will go for over 25k
I hope not/doubt it. I'm sure it will be competitively priced with the Caliber SRT4. If they do price it beyond 25K it would be too close to a base 135i which is going to kick ass when it releases at the end of the first quarter in 08.
Qwikness 11-02-2007, 08:31 PM [QUOTE=boosthard05;1629592]
In all reality ill prolly keep the RL and just swap to turbo...
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:bye: bye bye warranty that you paid all that extra money for
TxSSsc 11-02-2007, 08:57 PM I wouldnt be suprised to see the SS/TC in the 27K range.
I dont intend to buy the SS/TC but if I do, I will get my GMS pricing which is nice. I paid 19k for my brand new 07 SS/SC WOOT!!!
I paid 16,900 for my 07 SS/SC WOOTx2
I'm planning on my next car being the new Camaro with the big V8 :guns:
That is unless my little guys do their job too well before that time comes. Then I might have to settle for an SS Trailblazer
boosthard05 11-03-2007, 12:21 AM [QUOTE=boosthard05;1629592]
In all reality ill prolly keep the RL and just swap to turbo...
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:bye: bye bye warranty that you paid all that extra money for
not really...
the acura dealership i bought it from thought (and still thinks) the car had a turbo on it when they sold it to me.
they arent too bright and im pretty sure even if i did swap to turbo the dumb fuckers wouldnt even know.
cds00bsmg 11-04-2007, 08:29 PM It all really just depends on how bad some wanker wants the car. You just have to have the patience to wait it out for that one buyer that wants that car. The guy that gets screwed hardest is the initial buyer of the car new though....
Your best bet is to buy the car at dealer auction if you have access to do so. Dealer mark-up is insane, dont let them bullshit you and claim they only make 10% or something stupid like that on every vehicle sold. As far as GMS pricing, and all that other nonsense as well, remember, the dealer is in the business to make money. Just because it says GM pricing, or "dealer sticker price" they are still making money. SO, just imagine what they initially have in that car. One last example, I had a local dealer offer to sell me a new z06 off the truck that day for more than $10k under sticker...
anthonyS88 11-04-2007, 08:32 PM I wouldnt be suprised to see the SS/TC in the 27K range.
I dont intend to buy the SS/TC but if I do, I will get my GMS pricing which is nice. I paid 19k for my brand new 07 SS/SC WOOT!!!
I paid 19k even for my 2007 cobalt ss s/c brand new, 22k with tax, tag, title you know the bs
Degashoot 11-04-2007, 09:26 PM I wouldnt be suprised to see the SS/TC in the 27K range.
I dont intend to buy the SS/TC but if I do, I will get my GMS pricing which is nice. I paid 19k for my brand new 07 SS/SC WOOT!!!
Don't you ever get tired of bragging that due to your GM-ties you're able to get discounts :confused:
I noticed that in a lot of your posts you mention the fact that you get almost everytime GM at a lower price. By now we all know.....
We get it dude, we get it !!
suprchged 11-04-2007, 09:55 PM If i go turbo it wont be with chevy..... dodge ftw.
05redline 11-04-2007, 11:12 PM I wouldnt be suprised to see the SS/TC in the 27K range.
I wouldn't be surprised if they sat on Chevy lots for 10 months or more then.:lol: I think anyone with common sense would buy an Evo or Sti over it for that price.
JKennedy1612 11-05-2007, 02:35 AM Don't you ever get tired of bragging that due to your GM-ties you're able to get discounts :confused:
I noticed that in a lot of your posts you mention the fact that you get almost everytime GM at a lower price. By now we all know.....
We get it dude, we get it !!
I didn't get GMS pricing and I paid 20K for a brand new fully loaded 07' (Sunroof, G85, Side airbags, and so on)
So fudge that dude :cssNET:
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