Good friend of mine who runs a speed shop here in phoenix were talking about a friend's SS cobalt and i brought up the idea of a long tube header. What we were thinking was a 1 7/8th long tube header with a 3" collector that would come with a 3" downpipe to connect to a 3" catback. It would be full stainless steel and initial estimates would be in the 499-599 range. Would anyone be interested in a piece like that? There will be NO cat option so it won't be emission legal.

Gains? Your guess is as good as mine. I could imagine as much as 25-30+whp with just S2. IF we get some good interest we're thinking we will make a batch of 10 to start and take it from there. Post here if you'd be interested.

 

depending on the price and i also plan on keeping my car for a while so will need some sort of cat in the future

 

God that would be ridiculously loud.

 

Probably. Adding two resonator's would probably quiet it down. This header would be for those who want the most power

 

I think its a great idea, but the "no cat" and the potential "loudness" of the system may deter away potential buyers. Great option for those who are just looking for pure performance, best of luck!

 

would it be possible to just have a header made that would bolt on woth stock down pipe

 

That defeats the purpose of a long tube. You want a shorty header if you want to keep the stock downpipe.

 

So what he is saying is that you will have a short ass DP that will take up the room between the long headder and the cat back. (right?)

 

look at vibrants 4-2-1 header downpipe same thing he is discibing i think

 

Exactly

That is correct.

I'm going to leave this thread up for a few days but it looks like there isn't a whole lot of interest. My insurance check will be here this week and i will be using it on an 05 silver SS so my car will have the prototype header.

 

I may see what is up with it...

 

Id get one, thats what I want for a header, a big, long tube collector. Right now, money is an issue for me, but if I could afford one I would buy it.

 

I'd say the first one won't be available for atleast a month. We're pretty dead set on the price. It might be fine tuned a bit but 599.99 is what we'll be shooting for.

Full stainless steel 1 7/8th Long Tube Header
3" Collector
3 " Downpipe

No nonsense.. No bullshit.

Before anyone asks. No this will not connect to the stock exhaust or 2.5" catback. You will need a custom 3" catback or a ZZP one. Not sure who else has a 3" catback but i'd push you to having a custom one made.

As i said before we expect gains of 25 to 30 wheel horsepower with just stage 2. People running 60's and 2.8" and smaller would gain more.

 

resonators don't do dick for our cars

 

What's wrong with a loud exhaust aslong as you have the power to back it up?

 

nothin, this is why i have a loud stereo

 

Wait, so your adding another car to your collection?

 

Those primary's are to big

 

Yes

I'd LOVE to hear your reasons why. They're perfect for a high boost supercharged engine.

 

The whole thing is too big, i'd go with 2.5"

 

Hush, these arent for the average person. This is not a regular bolt-on thing, a header like this is a big-boy part, for someone looking to make 350+. Anything less and you will be wasting power, but once you get to that level you need 3" collectors and big primaries.

 

This is exactly what this part is designed for. Guys who want to run 2.8" pulley's and smaller. This header should NOT be used with guys who want less then 250whp.

 

yeah one that puts out good power, no one on here is close to needing something that big. Bigger is not always better but what do i know its not like i have been down that avenue

 

I guess we'll find out now won't we?

 

So is this a custom fabrication job or is he investing in a piece of machinery to manufacturer these?