2.5 or 3 inch better for supercharger??
2.5 or 3 inch better for supercharger??
hey i have some questions about which exhaust i should get to give me the most performance with out losing too much back pressure? Also which exhaust company to go with and how they compare?
I'm starting to feel like a broken record.
Corsa, company that fabricated the 3" system for the current Grand Am car told me that the 3" system is not required and that next years competition system will be 2.5".
Therefore, Corsa's newly released cat back systems (touring and sport) for the Cobalt 2.X liter applications are all 2.5" systems.
For more details see my epic Corsa thread somewhere on this page
Corsa, company that fabricated the 3" system for the current Grand Am car told me that the 3" system is not required and that next years competition system will be 2.5".
Therefore, Corsa's newly released cat back systems (touring and sport) for the Cobalt 2.X liter applications are all 2.5" systems.
For more details see my epic Corsa thread somewhere on this page
When I talked to a lot of the different companies making exhaust for the cobalt they said it would be more efficient in combination w/ other mods to get 3inch but a lot of them were going w/ 2.5 inch b/c of the noise db levels were harder to control. WOT 3inch is going to be better as long as you have some back pressure somewhere like a CAT, or a good muffler design.
3" would only be better for all out drag racing , where you are only concerned about peak power
on the street with ocasional drag , or racing duty 2 1/2" is best
ive seen lots of camaro's run 600 whp on a single 3" system , so 200-250 whp makes the 3" seam like over kill
on the street with ocasional drag , or racing duty 2 1/2" is best
ive seen lots of camaro's run 600 whp on a single 3" system , so 200-250 whp makes the 3" seam like over kill
The fact that an engine needs backpressure from the exhaust is a MYTH; every backpressure will cause some HP loss because that is restriction. An for the SS exhaust, 2,5" is OK to cause no loss up to 300 BHP.
Needing back pressure a Myth = BS
The backpressure of a exhuast system directly affects where HP and Torque is added or lost.
An exhaust that is wide open will produce more peak HP in the high rpm's but some low end will be lost.
The backpressure of a exhuast system directly affects where HP and Torque is added or lost.
An exhaust that is wide open will produce more peak HP in the high rpm's but some low end will be lost.
To add to the backpressure opinions -----
It is the the first X# of inches out the head that effect it , not 5 ft down stream
Just cant remember what X is
But if you put on a 1" exhaust --- well this is lets say, obvious ---- slam a potatoe in a cops exhaust , they love it!
It is the the first X# of inches out the head that effect it , not 5 ft down stream
Just cant remember what X is
But if you put on a 1" exhaust --- well this is lets say, obvious ---- slam a potatoe in a cops exhaust , they love it!
kewl...I thought there was a mess with the back pressure thingy...decided to stay out of it...
which is better..has there been any kind of numbers established...?? they should be real close..
which is better..has there been any kind of numbers established...?? they should be real close..
Originally Posted by Jmc007
The fact that an engine needs backpressure from the exhaust is a MYTH; every backpressure will cause some HP loss because that is restriction. An for the SS exhaust, 2,5" is OK to cause no loss up to 300 BHP.
I would think they need some back pressure to keep the exhaust gases moving at a certain speed. Although reducing back pressure will result in gains of HP, reduce too much and you might start to lose torque. If the exhaust tubes are small (within reason), they keep exhaust gases moving at a higher velocity...Make the tubes larger in diameter and then the gases spread out more hence the velocity drops off resulting in a loss of torque.
As for running open headers- you can run a decent amount of back pressure through the exhaust manifold only (or even through the head if it's designed for that application) however, if the temperature drops to fast...you will run the risk of burning the valve.
As for running open headers- you can run a decent amount of back pressure through the exhaust manifold only (or even through the head if it's designed for that application) however, if the temperature drops to fast...you will run the risk of burning the valve.
Originally Posted by hispano1
hey i have some questions about which exhaust i should get to give me the most performance with out losing too much back pressure? Also which exhaust company to go with and how they compare?
back pressure is back pressure, its needed...in moderation
Too much/little can effect performance dramatically.
Not real sure it'd make much of a difference whether you have 200 or 400 hp.....who knows..n4ggs makes sense..
What size is the exhaust offered by GM.? If it's 3" then by all means go for it. If it's not, find out why.
Too much/little can effect performance dramatically.
Not real sure it'd make much of a difference whether you have 200 or 400 hp.....who knows..n4ggs makes sense..
What size is the exhaust offered by GM.? If it's 3" then by all means go for it. If it's not, find out why.
i'm going with a 2.5", every engine needs some back pressue. I think with my 2.0 4 cylinder 2.5" is the best choice for me. plus if the GM cup car is made to specifically to be faster than other cars, if a 3" had much of a benifit, they would probably put a 3" on it.
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just go 2.5 or stay stock. ive been on a megan 2.5" and corsa touring 2.5" and i just want to go back to stock.
just go 2.5 or stay stock. ive been on a megan 2.5" and corsa touring 2.5" and i just want to go back to stock.


