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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 04:57 PM
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tires and wheel hop....

im going to be replacing the stock pzeros, most likely with the pzero M&S tires. i was wanting to know before i buy them if anyone has replaced the stock tires with another brand and found that they have more or less wheel hop. i know a few of you have the M&S tires, and have said you like them, but if you have them do you get less wheel hop with them also. as always, thanks in advance........
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by love my SS
im going to be replacing the stock pzeros, most likely with the pzero M&S tires. i was wanting to know before i buy them if anyone has replaced the stock tires with another brand and found that they have more or less wheel hop. i know a few of you have the M&S tires, and have said you like them, but if you have them do you get less wheel hop with them also. as always, thanks in advance........
The tire really has nothing to do with wheel hop. The only way to is it is to get a torque brace or motermounts.
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 05:19 PM
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The tire really has nothing to do with wheel hop. The only way to is it is to get a torque brace or motermounts.
are u sure a different compound of tire or brand wont help it? im not saying your wrong, i just thought it might....
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 05:26 PM
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I different tire MIGHT help a little bit, but the only real way to lesson or get rid of it is to get the brace or mounts.
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 05:33 PM
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I have not got new tires and such... but I did get torque braces and motor mounts, and that cut down on the wheel hop significantly. Just because the tires are a different compound, unless you go with slicks, your not going to get less wheel hop. The tires have nothing to do with it really. Our engine is tilted back, mounted to the mid-of the engine. Pretty much, directly over the wheels. You get wheel hop when the clutch is disengaged and your trying to take off, and the torque to the wheels causes the wheels to "hop." The wheels will break loose, and because there is so much torque and power going to the wheels, the tires cannot grab traction, they just spin and "catch" at random, causing them to "hop."

Hope this helps. Dropping that kind of $$$ into new tires isnt going to be worth it. The stock tires and very good and are top of the line tires.

Heres a little tip: When your at the track, stage at 2300RPM, then disengage the clutch slowly, letting the flywheel and clutch grab do most of the work. I have found that if you stage at anything above 3300RPM then disengage the clutch by "dropping" it, the wheels will just break loose and cause the wheel hop. Instead, like I said, stage at 2300RPM, let the clutch out slowly, but not to slow as to avoid "burning" of the clutch plates, then when you get going about 10-15MPH, go ahead and let of the clutch totally... you will have the traction needed, but will still feel a little "spinnage" of the wheels, but will have enough traction to have a good launch. Then shift into 2nd, and your off like lightning.

My best 60ft was 2.18 seconds, while WRX and EVO, AWD, did about the same. This is because of no wheel hop.

Just an FYI.

Dave
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 05:40 PM
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I have not got new tires and such... but I did get torque braces and motor mounts, and that cut down on the wheel hop significantly. Just because the tires are a different compound, unless you go with slicks, your not going to get less wheel hop. The tires have nothing to do with it really. Our engine is tilted back, mounted to the mid-of the engine. Pretty much, directly over the wheels. You get wheel hop when the clutch is disengaged and your trying to take off, and the torque to the wheels causes the wheels to "hop." The wheels will break loose, and because there is so much torque and power going to the wheels, the tires cannot grab traction, they just spin and "catch" at random, causing them to "hop."

Hope this helps. Dropping that kind of $$$ into new tires isnt going to be worth it. The stock tires and very good and are top of the line tires.

Heres a little tip: When your at the track, stage at 2300RPM, then disengage the clutch slowly, letting the flywheel and clutch grab do most of the work. I have found that if you stage at anything above 3300RPM then disengage the clutch by "dropping" it, the wheels will just break loose and cause the wheel hop. Instead, like I said, stage at 2300RPM, let the clutch out slowly, but not to slow as to avoid "burning" of the clutch plates, then when you get going about 10-15MPH, go ahead and let of the clutch totally... you will have the traction needed, but will still feel a little "spinnage" of the wheels, but will have enough traction to have a good launch. Then shift into 2nd, and your off like lightning.

My best 60ft was 2.18 seconds, while WRX and EVO, AWD, did about the same. This is because of no wheel hop.

Just an FYI.

Dave

You have poly motormount inserts? Where did you get them and how much?
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 06:04 PM
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I actually got them from a local dealer in Texas, The DropZone. They are not Manufactured, rather custom made. I could not find any that were already pre-made. Supposedly, Gravana is coming with some Motor Mounts in Summer06' I emailed them and asked, but they said they do not have them currently. I paid 350 for the mounts, then took 3 hours to install, totally about 560$. It was well worth it though.
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 08:56 PM
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yeah motor mounts and torque bracesare the way to go, but a tire might help... im not well informed on tires and ****... um i know that BFG KDW's are the way im going as soon as i get some money, they are like a step down from the drag radials... a buddy of mine had them on his 240 and he said they were a dream, and that they locked up great... i dunno... i'd say motor mounts and a torque brace for sure, tires may help also...
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Old Dec 9, 2005 | 09:15 PM
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Our tires(pzeros) are designed for roadtrack use. They are great for corners and handling, but for launching or drag, a different tire will do better. The draw-back is you will lose handling with a better drag type of tire. To keep wheel-hop down a torque brace or stiffer motormounts are you best bet.
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 01:29 PM
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thanks guys, i will look into the braces....
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