Look what I found

http://www.markostar.com/DayPics/071805/

Nice! Any deals for the website??

And do you ship to Canada?

Nice....competing with the NXT line-up...I like there quick detailer, I use it on my tool box at work. ;)

sun pics plz

Got another one from a customer today, I don't have any pictures of those since I had nothing to do with that, I just found it on the net, we are working with a large tool box manufator, they love our Spray Wax :)

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/4691/p1000119rf0.th.jpg (http://img412.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1000119rf0.jpg)

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/1515/p1000029nq9.th.jpg (http://img412.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1000029nq9.jpg)

Got another one from a customer today, I don't have any pictures of those since I had nothing to do with that, I just found it on the net, we are working with a large tool box manufator, they love our Spray Wax :)

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/4691/p1000119rf0.th.jpg (http://img412.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1000119rf0.jpg)

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/1515/p1000029nq9.th.jpg (http://img412.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1000029nq9.jpg)

I'm curretly using the NXT spray quick detailer for my box at work...works pretty good but doesn't last to long.

I will send you a 4oz bottle of ours, FREE with your order, you will be the judge, if you want to get real technical, remove all the wax, do half with that product and half with ours, let see what last longer, if you want to get even more technical get some before and after photos :cssNET::#one::bow:

turbo wax has some good insant detailer and tire gel. i will never use a spray on wax though (from any company)

Any particular reason why not ?

i'm guessing durability?

though i am a fan of mequires because you can go anywhere and find it you dont have to order it

Any particular reason why not ?

because handwaxing is bad. and if you are only spraying it on its useless

Hummmm. Im not sure I follow you, :confused::confused:

Hummmm. Im not sure I follow you, :confused::confused:

if you are applying that by hand its a waste of time and good paint, not saying your product is bad. the simple truth is that hand polishing and waxing is a waste

I don't agree that is a waste of time ,but I do respect your opinion.:)

if you are applying that by hand its a waste of time and good paint, not saying your product is bad. the simple truth is that hand polishing and waxing is a waste

I don't agree that is a waste of time ,but I do respect your opinion.:)

I'll be the one that says it. Hatrickstu, thats could go down as one of the stupidest things I have ever heard.

I'll be the one that says it. Hatrickstu, thats could go down as one of the stupidest things I have ever heard.

oh really, care to show me some pictures of your paint in direct sunlight if you did it by hand. please tell me you wax your cars by hand, ive seen your before and after pics and its quite evient you use a machine

I don't agree that is a waste of time ,but I do respect your opinion.:)

do you apply it by hand or with a machine

Let’s take this as a Friendly debate…………..

Let’s take my neighbor as an example; he is a very successful person but it seems that he never has time, he likes to wash his car and likes to have a quick nice temporary protection, if it doesn’t come with a sprayer he won’t use it, he needs his time to play golf, he is the prime customer for a Spray Wax, all he cares is for a temporary protection, he will wax his car once a year. He is a spray wax customer for life, like him there are many many of them, and that is why the spray wax exists, joining him are the hard core guys that go to the car shows very frequently. In other words it is for people that don’t have time and are what some call “lazy”.

Take my other neighbor, he is completely the contrary, he will spend 8 hours on his car, he will go and wash, clay, pre wax, wax and at times will even put two layers of wax, if you try to tell him to use a spray wax he will give you a dirty look, for him it is a border line insult.

There you have to two prime examples of two customers trying to obtain what’s best for them.

Regarding your inquiry, do we use a machine; of course we do, however, not every single time, we do have an Excursion, that is a pretty big truck, every two months or so I will do an real good job on her, when Im in a rush I wash the truck, dry it and quickly give it a pass with the spray wax, Im accomplishing a few things, save time, got the shine, got the temporary protection until the next wax, so as you can see I have accomplished all of my goals at that moment, so to me it is not a waste of time.

I have taken the liberty to provide you some photos, these photos are from our R&D tests they were done on RENTAL CARS, cars that we know nothing about their history and cars that are often very neglected, ALL of them were done by HAND, no tricks, no hypes, as a business owner it is of my sole interest that we do as much tests as we can under many different conditions so my customers benefit from the best product we can make under our roof. Maybe none of the photos are what you are looking for but I hope they prove to you that you can accomplish great results by hand.

Sample work
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/83/oldfiles2170tu7.th.jpg (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oldfiles2170tu7.jpg)

Rental Cars by hand, wax and pre wax
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/6922/oldfiles1898xq0.th.jpg (http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oldfiles1898xq0.jpg)

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/9417/oldfiles1769vj4.th.jpg (http://img522.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oldfiles1769vj4.jpg)

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/680/oldfiles1786ko2.th.jpg (http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oldfiles1786ko2.jpg)

Rental car, pre wax, wax and 30 days later spray wax

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/3349/oldfiles1821hw2.th.jpg (http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oldfiles1821hw2.jpg)

Once we got into another friendly depate about silver colors, we went to the junk yard and found a silver door, all by hand

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/8963/oldfiles1842di9.th.jpg (http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oldfiles1842di9.jpg)

Another rental car by hand
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/97/oldfiles1789db5.th.jpg (http://img522.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oldfiles1789db5.jpg)

I hope that helps :twothumbs

I will send you a 4oz bottle of ours, FREE with your order, you will be the judge, if you want to get real technical, remove all the wax, do half with that product and half with ours, let see what last longer, if you want to get even more technical get some before and after photos :cssNET::#one::bow:

Sweet....I'll post pics after I do it....

And my opinion about hand/hard wax and spray wax....I always do a good solid wax once every 6 months then every month the spray wax and once a week the quick detailer. Still keeps the awesome looking shine all year and since the first day I got my car...minus the rock chips in my hood...:(

turbowax, i understand your situation with clients and you need to meet their needs. i truly do not mean to insult because you are a very good vendor

hatrickstu

I never took your opinion as an insult, contrary I do appreciate your point of few :twothumbs that's why I call it a "Friendly Debate" we can disagree without calling names or been disrespectful, like they say there's many ways to skin a cat," Chicken from where I come" lol, I'm just hoping that you may change your view or at least think about it, again is all a friendly debate, not to prove anything but you got me thinking................

so I drove 85 miles both ways and got the 1965 Trunk lid that we use for the shows, yes the one side has been prepared, wax, swirl remover ,clay and by machine, the paint is original, the other side we have never ever touch,

so tomorrow at sunlight I will take a series of pictures, one will be of the condition "AS IS" of the trunk lid, the next one I will use straight water to both sides to see what it looks like, then I will ONLY apply to the half of the still original side with our spray wax, then I will water it again to see if we can see ANY difference.

I will do the test with honesty and Integrity, I too want to learn. the test will be very similar to one I did in another Friendly debate, In this occasion my opponent claim that his truck has been without wax for over a year, he stated that applying wax just by hand could do little to nothing, well look at the picture and you will see, you be the judge.

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/6899/oldfiles1793ew3.th.jpg (http://img86.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oldfiles1793ew3.jpg)

Again is all a Friendly debate, nothing else, and by the way thanks for the kind words, we do try to get the best deals possible for the forum, you guys can Thank Jonny B, he works hard keeping the site going.

hatrickstu

I never took your opinion as an insult, contrary I do appreciate your point of few :twothumbs that's why I call it a "Friendly Debate" we can disagree without calling names or been disrespectful, like they say there's many ways to skin a cat," Chicken from where I come" lol, I'm just hoping that you may change your view or at least think about it, again is all a friendly debate, not to prove anything but you got me thinking................

so I drove 85 miles both ways and got the 1965 Trunk lid that we use for the shows, yes the one side has been prepared, wax, swirl remover ,clay and by machine, the paint is original, the other side we have never ever touch,

so tomorrow at sunlight I will take a series of pictures, one will be of the condition "AS IS" of the trunk lid, the next one I will use straight water to both sides to see what it looks like, then I will ONLY apply to the half of the still original side with our spray wax, then I will water it again to see if we can see ANY difference.

I will do the test with honesty and Integrity, I too want to learn. the test will be very similar to one I did in another Friendly debate, In this occasion my opponent claim that his truck has been without wax for over a year, he stated that applying wax just by hand could do little to nothing, well look at the picture and you will see, you be the judge.

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/6899/oldfiles1793ew3.th.jpg (http://img86.imageshack.us/my.php?image=oldfiles1793ew3.jpg)

Again is all a Friendly debate, nothing else, and by the way thanks for the kind words, we do try to get the best deals possible for the forum, you guys can Thank Jonny B, he works hard keeping the site going.

so you use a machine! that was my point!

so you use a machine! that was my point!

He also stated that he hand waxed a truck and it made a difference.

I will do the test with honesty and Integrity, I too want to learn. the test will be very similar to one I did in another Friendly debate, In this occasion my opponent claim that his truck has been without wax for over a year, he stated that applying wax just by hand could do little to nothing, well look at the picture and you will see, you be the judge.

But as said many times we all have our own ways and some think hand waxing does nothing and a machine is better, but for the less educated with a machine, you can easily burn your paint.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

;) So anyway...can't wait to get my stuff in and get the Balt all prettied up for the club meet and wax the tool box at work. :cssNET:

He also stated that he hand waxed a truck and it made a difference.



But as said many times we all have our own ways and some think hand waxing does nothing and a machine is better, but for the less educated with a machine, you can easily burn your paint.

how hard is it to do 10 minutes of research and learn how not to do it?

turbo i agree that a hand wax on a truck that hasnt been waxed in a while will make a difference, for sure, but when it comes to repairing paint or even maintaining it well, hands cant compare to machine.

what were you referring to here-

"so I drove 85 miles both ways and got the 1965 Trunk lid that we use for the shows, yes the one side has been prepared, wax, swirl remover ,clay and by machine, the paint is original, the other side we have never ever touch"

he was saying that he will wax the part thats never been touched and compare it to the side thats been machine preped

he was saying that he will wax the part thats never been touched and compare it to the side thats been machine preped

i would love to see the difference, if the machine user actually tries and uses come good compounding and polish. the difference will be more than notable

Ok....lets just admit it...a machine hands down is better, but the hole point is you can still do an awesome job by hand.

Ok....lets just admit it...a machine hands down is better, but the hole point is you can still do an awesome job by hand.

that depends on what your opinion of awesome is. awesome to me means little to no swirls, and fact of the matter is, the longer you go by hand, the more swirls your gonna get. you will never repair paint by hand like you can by machine. so IMO hand finishes are far from awesome. own a black car, and it will become very very apparent

my point, these results will never be acheived by hand, never-

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c37/hatrickstu/img4850ix1.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c37/hatrickstu/P1010008-1.jpg

^^ Well I own a red car so mines not as noticeable and I understand what you're saying. :)

^^ Well I own a red car so mines not as noticeable and I understand what you're saying. :)

good to see we can come to an agreeance in a mature manner

what did you do that it got that bad in the first place

good to see we can come to an agreeance in a mature manner

;) For sure....now that we agree were good and hopefuly this post doesn't get locked now. ;)

what did you do that it got that bad in the first place

Back and forth on machine vs hand waxing. But it's all resolved now sooo....

what did you do that it got that bad in the first place

put a high powered halogen on your paint, youd be surprised. i thought my paint was in decent shape after my 2 years of anal hand waxing (wow that sounded wrong). i nearly had a heart attack when i saw it under some strong light.

;) For sure....now that we agree were good and hopefuly this post doesn't get locked now. ;)



Back and forth on machine vs hand waxing. But it's all resolved now sooo....

pretty sure he was referring to the paint i posted

My apologies as I think I have completed mis understood your original statement; "because hand waxing is bad. and if you are only spraying it on its useless"

I was under the impression that you were making a point that hand wax is a waste of time, based on those guidelines is why we were having the "Friendly Debate" but now we are talking about machine work, swirl marks and many other things, so I don't even know what the 'Friendly Debate is about anymore"

Is the machine work better Absolutely, is for everyone, I don't think so, I have witness many times how people have burn the paint off, even for us, we always tape the edges, so the machine it is not for everyone, Is the machine easy to use, just like any other tool, with practice it is easy, now from there we can get into an entire different subject all together, what machine, what speed, what pads, why those pads and not our pads, We can have a war over that subject all alone. :lol::lol:

Back to the subject, the only point I'm trying to make is that you can and will get great results by hand, not only with our products but with many other products, the key is prep work, nothing else. those picture from rental cars are a prime example. :twothumbs

And yes I did drove 80 + miles last night to carried on this test, no today as is raining and I want you to see for yourself. :):thumb:

ok so it was all a big misunderstanding, lmao