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Old 01-20-2014, 11:51 AM
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1st Auto-X - Fall 2013

Hey guys,

This was my first Auto-X from Fall 2013.

Mods at the time:
- 2.8 pulley w. 93 octane tune.
- I/H/DP/obt. B

-18x8 Enkei Falcon wheels w/ Dunlop DZ1 Star Specs

-Pedder Springs
-Front FE5 SS/SC shocks / Rear Koni Yellow
- FE5 Front Sway Bar
- Rotated Stg. 1 Tranny Mounts
- OTTP 1.25in Rear Sway Bar


Link to the Results:

Car # 394

Final Raw Results: Final Raw Time Results
- Placed 62 out of 72 (not too shabby for a 1st time)

Final Results: Final Results
- Fastest run was a 67.912, but hit a cone

Link to Vids:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5v1iewij9p...OPRO0028.1.wmv

https://www.dropbox.com/s/fyhzowp078...OPRO0028.2.wmv


any tips are greatly appreciated, let me know what cha think... cant wait for next season to begin.

All Taped Up !
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See if there are any amature school days those taught me the most, the vidoe's aren't good enough quality for me to give any advice besides asking if you were clipping the edges of the cones through the slalom with your rear tire?
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Originally Posted by andrewcarr1993
See if there are any amature school days those taught me the most, the vidoe's aren't good enough quality for me to give any advice besides asking if you were clipping the edges of the cones through the slalom with your rear tire?
I plan on going to a few track days @ Englishtown Raceway in NJ as soon as the track opens in the spring, they have the amateur school and stuff but thats road racing not auto x. Im sure i will still learn tho no matter what.

Any idea where to put the go pro next time for a better angle ?

I only hit a cone 1 run which was the fastest time but with the penalty it was the 2nd fastest.
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If you only hit one cone the entire time you're not pushing yourself enough, that's how I was my first time the second time I managed to spin out on my first run. You have quite a few runs and your first isn't going to be your fastest so find where the limit is and the second run try to hit those limits without hitting cones.
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I agree, you need to push the car harder. Ideally you want to hear the tires a little bit around every turn. Too much chirping is no good.

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I plan on going to a few track days @ Englishtown Raceway in NJ as soon as the track opens in the spring, they have the amateur school and stuff but thats road racing not auto x. Im sure i will still learn tho no matter what.

Any idea where to put the go pro next time for a better angle ?

I only hit a cone 1 run which was the fastest time but with the penalty it was the 2nd fastest.
AutoX and road racing are two different animals but you can take some of the skills you learn from autox with you to road racing. When you autox you have to be more aggressive and take the shortest route possible most of the time. Road racing you need to be very smooth while turning and you need to use up the whole track to be fast. Remember smooth is fast and fast is smooth.
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Don't be too afraid of the cones and remember slow in fast out. You have to be smooth through the autox course but not to the same extent as road racing.
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Thanks guys, yea it was a bit intimidating going for the first time but i did manage to shave at least 1sec off each run as the day wen on.

The temp was 40* so it was hard to keep the tires warm... And the parking lot was on the beach so it was sandy as hell, by the end of the day it started to get better with the ability to gain some traction.

Every time i tried to give it some gas the tires just spun which was frustrating.
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Sounds like our last autocross it was raining and the pavement was so slick for the first session after break it dried up and was better. Two events are held in this parking lot that's sealed every year so it's not too good even in the dry.
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Our SCCA autox events are held at Miller Park (Home of the Milwaukee Brewers) so we get monster park lots that are never sealed. When its wet it's slick but nothing like sealed pavement.
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We use mainly a RIT parking lot but it's small space (college in Rochester, NY) have 2 at Delphi (sealed and small), had 2 tentatively at an airfield that was a no go and two at Ralph Wilson stadium (Buffalo Bills stadium)
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Originally Posted by stealthy1ss
Our SCCA autox events are held at Miller Park (Home of the Milwaukee Brewers) so we get monster park lots that are never sealed. When its wet it's slick but nothing like sealed pavement.
You remember CED two years ago when it started raining on that freshly sealed lot?

Slide around ALL the corners!
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I hope to make CED this year I'm going to get off of work.
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There are a bunch of spots with different clubs to run with here on long island.

The run posted was with Porsche club @ tobay beach.

Bmw runs @ nassau coliseum (home of the ny islanders) , Metlife Stadium (giants/jets)
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Originally Posted by andrewcarr1993
We use mainly a RIT parking lot but it's small space (college in Rochester, NY) have 2 at Delphi (sealed and small), had 2 tentatively at an airfield that was a no go and two at Ralph Wilson stadium (Buffalo Bills stadium)
Airfield autox's are very fun. Did one last year with the course in the taxi area and then you did a half mile sprint down the runway.
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Maybe this year then. Fingers crossed that it isn't cancelled again.
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are these events you guys are referencing upstate NY ?
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No, all in Wisconsin. I also race both my Abarth and Cobalt at Road America.
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I'm in western New York a town outside of Buffalo that's much nicer than Buffalo.
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gotcha ... Andrew have you ever ran at Lime Rock or NJ Motorsport Park ? I know there far from you but just figured id ask.
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No just autocross at the moment, if I'm turbo'd I also don't want to push the stock motor that long until I have a built one in.
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