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Old 05-27-2014, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 1Panel2NV
Nice job. That's really good considering the number of people. I'm started to regret not making the CED autocross. It sounds like there will be some good drivers there.
Thank you. The surface was less than desired but it was still fun. I'll try to get the two videos I have uploaded Thursday or so.

Whats the CED autocross if I may ask? I want to say Crate Engine Depot if they're having that big meet again this year like always hah.
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Originally Posted by ssyellow
Thank you. The surface was less than desired but it was still fun. I'll try to get the two videos I have uploaded Thursday or so.

Whats the CED autocross if I may ask? I want to say Crate Engine Depot if they're having that big meet again this year like always hah.
Yes, that's what I'm talking about. I assumed you were going, since you're fairly close. I have all my vacation scheduled for my local autocross, so I'm not going.
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Originally Posted by 1Panel2NV
Yes, that's what I'm talking about. I assumed you were going, since you're fairly close. I have all my vacation scheduled for my local autocross, so I'm not going.
I have yet to go throughout my years on this forum despite being so close. I think the main reason is that I can hardly stand some of the high school Cobalt owners around me and don't want to think what an entire meet of them would be like

Looks like its the week of my finals, too bad. Would be nice to meet some other auto-x/road course guys, especially Powell, in person.
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Originally Posted by ssyellow
I have yet to go throughout my years on this forum despite being so close. I think the main reason is that I can hardly stand some of the high school Cobalt owners around me and don't want to think what an entire meet of them would be like

Looking into it now though, thanks for the heads up.
The lot wasn't built yet where the autocross was supposed to be last year and I haven't seen anyone confirm it has been built this year.
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MSCC/DCSCC Schoolcraft event (6/1/2014)

Another 1st place at the event yesterday. Faster course but still had some technical sections. More people were registered for my class but it ended up being myself and two others.

1st in TDSP by 3 seconds and 18th overall out of 99 cars.

It was fun playing around with the XXX rear sway bar on this nice surface, unfortunately my tires started to overheat (I think) on my last two runs and they were garbage.
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Originally Posted by ssyellow
MSCC/DCSCC Schoolcraft event (6/1/2014)

Another 1st place at the event yesterday. Faster course but still had some technical sections. More people were registered for my class but it ended up being myself and two others.

1st in TDSP by 3 seconds and 18th overall out of 99 cars.

It was fun playing around with the XXX rear sway bar on this nice surface, unfortunately my tires started to overheat (I think) on my last two runs and they were garbage.
Nice job. Time to go to a 17x9

It would be awesome to set something up again where there were a few Cobalts at an autocross. Would you be willing to go to a Chicago region event later this year? I'm not sure exactly how far that would be for you.
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Originally Posted by 1Panel2NV
Nice job. Time to go to a 17x9

It would be awesome to set something up again where there were a few Cobalts at an autocross. Would you be willing to go to a Chicago region event later this year? I'm not sure exactly how far that would be for you.
Thats something I'll be looking into next year. Need to replace struts/shocks and get some Powell CAB's and sway bar end links first.

Depends on location along with the time/date. How far away are you from Toledo? If the NWORSCCA has another event there, I might make it. You don't get as many runs but they always have a great setup.
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Originally Posted by ssyellow
Thats something I'll be looking into next year. Need to replace struts/shocks and get some Powell CAB's and sway bar end links first.

Depends on location along with the time/date. How far away are you from Toledo? If the NWORSCCA has another event there, I might make it. You don't get as many runs but they always have a great setup.
I'm near Peoria Illinois, so that would be a decent drive. The Chicago area is about as far as I'd go. I don't usually go to the Chicago events, it's just a good middle ground for most people.
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Originally Posted by 1Panel2NV
I'm near Peoria Illinois, so that would be a decent drive. The Chicago area is about as far as I'd go. I don't usually go to the Chicago events, it's just a good middle ground for most people.
Yeah that would be a drive for you. I'll see if I can maybe make it out to a Chicago event, do you have a link to future event information?
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Originally Posted by ssyellow
Yeah that would be a drive for you. I'll see if I can maybe make it out to a Chicago event, do you have a link to future event information?
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Originally Posted by 1Panel2NV
Ouch, a solid 5-5:30 drive one way. Probably won't see me out to any of those events anytime soon haha.
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Took down a lot of porsches and some really high dollar ones(driver mods) with the new dynamics and rs3's. Damn they grip laterally, not as good as I would have hoped in braking though.

Had to actually raise the car with a spacer int he rear 4mm on YYZ V3

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Looks good! What was the consensus on offset with the Team Dynamic wheels in 17X9?

The more tire I can fit the better.
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Originally Posted by ssyellow
Looks good! What was the consensus on offset with the Team Dynamic wheels in 17X9?

The more tire I can fit the better.
+30 front, +45 rear is perfect. No rubbing even being on coilovers now.
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SMF is more fun :P

And I agree on the RS3. I ran Hankook R comps last year and was in love, just not with the price. For the price the RS3 works amazing at autox or track days, and will last. Shame this spring has been spent rebuilding my car, otherwise Id love to do a thread like this. maybe next year if i do redline time attack.
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I bumped myself up to SMF for the Toledo event. Please do once you get the car out to some events, its always nice to have documented builds to look back in the past at. Something this forum is missing and I had trouble finding some information or setups that worked for people.

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+30 front, +45 rear is perfect. No rubbing even being on coilovers now.
How is clearance in the rear/how much tire are you running on your wheels? My Ultraleggeras are +42 offset I believe and it rubs on a 235/40/18 Z2, fronts are fine.
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Originally Posted by ssyellow
How is clearance in the rear/how much tire are you running on your wheels? My Ultraleggeras are +42 offset I believe and it rubs on a 235/40/18 Z2, fronts are fine.
Clearance on the rear is just enough to not rub

I got pretty lucky with the rear offset. I have hit the bump stops on a rough road and still haven't rubbed. I'm running 255/40/17s.
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Originally Posted by 1Panel2NV
+30 front, +45 rear is perfect. No rubbing even being on coilovers now.
he is correct, unfortunately these wheels where cheap and in a same size all +30. They poke but they are track wheels only. No biggy.
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What pads are you gentlemen running? My fronts are getting low so I'm looking into options. Obviously the stock Ferodo 1000's are on the table but if there is something better I'm all ears.
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I've run Hawk HpS ( mind you im on a LT setup of disk/drums) and never had a problem. I also have stainless lines and run Super Blue fluid.
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OEM pads with stainless lines.
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I'm running some wicked Raybestos pads but I'm not sure they would get up to temp fast enough for AutoX. They are crazy good on a road course though.

I ran the stock Brembo pads with Super Blue and never had problems.
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Raybestos ST-43? I was talking to Wangspeed about pads for the track and he recommended them also. I concur that they probably won't heat up enough for auto-x.

Originally Posted by 1Panel2NV
OEM pads with stainless lines.
I've heard mixed reviews about the HPS pads in terms of stopping power. I currently have them in the rear to try and combat the abnormal rotor wear on the TC models.

I'll probably just go with stock Ferodos then. Looked at the options out there and I think I'll be going with the ZZP lines as they look like the best option from a price/value standpoint.

Action shot a friend took from the Silverdome event a few weeks ago.

Silverdome Auto-x by navarrenathan, on Flickr

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I've heard mixed reviews about the HPS pads in terms of stopping power. I currently have them in the rear to try and combat the abnormal rotor wear on the TC models.

I'll probably just go with stock Ferodos then. Looked at the options out there and I think I'll be going with the ZZP lines as they look like the best option from a price/value standpoint.
The Ferodos have awesome bite. I tried HPS pads but wasn't really a fan. They were noisy too.

ZZP lines are $142 plus shipping. Goodridge lines are $168 shipped from Tirerack. I would go with Goodridge.

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Raybestos ST-43? I was talking to Wangspeed about pads for the track and he recommended them also. I concur that they probably won't heat up enough for auto-x.
Yep. Love them. Tricky to find, but a place in California sells them.


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