Launching the Automatic - Brake Starting
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I will recap the first post for you. It says that on the Cobalt specifically (that's important, because it means it doesn't apply to your silly Camaro) the traction control system will interfere with a good launch. So by simply starting in "L" instead of "D", you fix the problem.
If people want a better way msg PM me.
PS my silly camaro i take as a insult, but can i report a mod?
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You got attitude because you gave it. If you can't get this method to work well for you, then don't do it. But when you decide it's necessary to post in the thread and so arrogantly try to tell everyone not to do it because you can't get it to work, you will get an equal and opposite response.
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You got attitude because you gave it. If you can't get this method to work well for you, then don't do it. But when you decide it's necessary to post in the thread and so arrogantly try to tell everyone not to do it because you can't get it to work, you will get an equal and opposite response.
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1.You got attitude because you gave it.
2.If you can't get this method to work well for you, then don't do it.
3.But when you decide it's necessary to post in the thread and so arrogantly try to tell everyone not to do it because you can't get it to work, you will get an equal and opposite response.
2.If you can't get this method to work well for you, then don't do it.
3.But when you decide it's necessary to post in the thread and so arrogantly try to tell everyone not to do it because you can't get it to work, you will get an equal and opposite response.
2.The method works ... just aint the best way to go though.
3.I simply stated it doesnt work best. How do i post arrogantly when i have a fact that this doesnt work best. I could of help Suggesting something that works better but i refuse to now. As far as equal and opposite response i wait your reply on my facts of faster lauching methods .
"Most drag racing cars use automatics, and this is the technique they use."<<<A 2.2 or 2.4 Cobalt has no compairsion to a drag racing car at all. Silly cobalt
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Facts, huh? Okay e-thug.
I know it to be a fact that you are officially off topic. I know it to be a fact that you have an egotistical need to try and make some kind of point here, and that I don't really care. I know it to be a fact that you beat your wife. What, you don't have a wife? Try and prove it over the internet. I bet I can find somebody here that will say they are your wife and that you beat them. Then try to disprove that smart guy.
It's the internet. You can't prove **** with "facts" here junior.
I know it to be a fact that you are officially off topic. I know it to be a fact that you have an egotistical need to try and make some kind of point here, and that I don't really care. I know it to be a fact that you beat your wife. What, you don't have a wife? Try and prove it over the internet. I bet I can find somebody here that will say they are your wife and that you beat them. Then try to disprove that smart guy.
It's the internet. You can't prove **** with "facts" here junior.
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Facts, huh? Okay e-thug.
I know it to be a fact that you are officially off topic. I know it to be a fact that you have an egotistical need to try and make some kind of point here, and that I don't really care. I know it to be a fact that you beat your wife. What, you don't have a wife? Try and prove it over the internet. I bet I can find somebody here that will say they are your wife and that you beat them. Then try to disprove that smart guy.
It's the internet. You can't prove **** with "facts" here junior.
I know it to be a fact that you are officially off topic. I know it to be a fact that you have an egotistical need to try and make some kind of point here, and that I don't really care. I know it to be a fact that you beat your wife. What, you don't have a wife? Try and prove it over the internet. I bet I can find somebody here that will say they are your wife and that you beat them. Then try to disprove that smart guy.
It's the internet. You can't prove **** with "facts" here junior.
Facts, huh? Okay e-thug.
I know it to be a fact that you are officially off topic. I know it to be a fact that you have an egotistical need to try and make some kind of point here, and that I don't really care. I know it to be a fact that you beat your wife. What, you don't have a wife? Try and prove it over the internet. I bet I can find somebody here that will say they are your wife and that you beat them. Then try to disprove that smart guy.
It's the internet. You can't prove **** with "facts" here junior.
I know it to be a fact that you are officially off topic. I know it to be a fact that you have an egotistical need to try and make some kind of point here, and that I don't really care. I know it to be a fact that you beat your wife. What, you don't have a wife? Try and prove it over the internet. I bet I can find somebody here that will say they are your wife and that you beat them. Then try to disprove that smart guy.
It's the internet. You can't prove **** with "facts" here junior.
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Wow guys, chill out.
This is the best method I know of and I would love to here yours ChevyRockstar, becuase I have had my car for almost a year and have launched it countless times in every way I could think of and this worked the best.
This is the best method I know of and I would love to here yours ChevyRockstar, becuase I have had my car for almost a year and have launched it countless times in every way I could think of and this worked the best.
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From what I hear/understand the T/C does NOT turn off, no matter what gear you put your car in, no matter what you do in my 08 LS. and i have tried and pretty sure it never turned off so. is this true? any way around this?
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after reading through this, and thinking about my driving and my wheels spinning, i don't think i have T/C at all...?
Edit : It is pretty much telling me to push the TCS button to turn the T/C off but i don't have it, and it's also telling me to put it in L to turn the ETS(enhanced traction system) off, and that a light should show up saying it's off, but no such thing ever happens. same with pulling my e-brake up, i still get nothing though...wtf?
Edit : It is pretty much telling me to push the TCS button to turn the T/C off but i don't have it, and it's also telling me to put it in L to turn the ETS(enhanced traction system) off, and that a light should show up saying it's off, but no such thing ever happens. same with pulling my e-brake up, i still get nothing though...wtf?
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In 2007 they switched the ECM's to a different model. Before these last couple of posts, I wasn't aware of the possibility of a software change to the traction control. So if you have a 2007 on up, it seems you might not be able to turn traction control off by using the "1" or "L" gear position. I will look into that a little more for you.
I do know that on the 2005-06 models, traction control is specifically turned off by selecting the low gear.
I do know that on the 2005-06 models, traction control is specifically turned off by selecting the low gear.
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In 2007 they switched the ECM's to a different model. Before these last couple of posts, I wasn't aware of the possibility of a software change to the traction control. So if you have a 2007 on up, it seems you might not be able to turn traction control off by using the "1" or "L" gear position. I will look into that a little more for you.
I do know that on the 2005-06 models, traction control is specifically turned off by selecting the low gear.
I do know that on the 2005-06 models, traction control is specifically turned off by selecting the low gear.
I've also noticed that when on snowy roads and I attempt to spin my wheels with both TC and ESC off it seems as if the car cuts off the gas because power is instantly lost when the speedomoter hits about 35-40mph (starting from 0 or near 0 of course.) Anyone know why this is? At the Drag track the tires would spin fine when I'd get on the pit road and spin them to get the dirt/gravel off.
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Your power loss is a separate issue. Thats a torque limiter. Since you are deliberately spinning your wheels on the ice from a stand-still, the ECM is shutting you down. It has parameters that can sense the speed of the power train versus the torque, which lets it know that your are just spinning tires. Its shutting down fuel to protect the powertrain from potential torque damage that might be caused if the tires where to suddenly make traction again at the high rotational speed.
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Here's some questions/tips i have come accross upon.
For one L and I on my auto 08 sedan doesn't climb higher then a total of 30 mph no matter from I to L or L to I. These gears are there on a auto for a high torque low speed kinda scenario aka you packed every square inch with heavy stuff and ur 2.2 wont make it up that big o`l hill.
Second I noticed specifically when I bought my car it did not have any traction control....yes no? Actually it was one of my dealers push points to get a more expensive balt...lol. But it definitive doesn't have traction control because I have driven several cars that do.
So my question here is that being for one my car wont get faster then 30mph in L or I in either, or any combo of the 2, it would be retarded for someone with a similar car to even attempt to launch with or without traction control in L or I. Yes....Yes.
Another statement here would be if you have a auto 07+, don't launch in anything but D. I happen to know one of the mechanics at a gm dealership and he has seen some destroyed auto trannys because of improper use of L and I. His suggestion is unless you have a really heavy load do not use L and I at all.
Edit: I will say that brake launching is awesome as a whole. For me it doesn't work in anything but D, but it sure as hell works.
For one L and I on my auto 08 sedan doesn't climb higher then a total of 30 mph no matter from I to L or L to I. These gears are there on a auto for a high torque low speed kinda scenario aka you packed every square inch with heavy stuff and ur 2.2 wont make it up that big o`l hill.
Second I noticed specifically when I bought my car it did not have any traction control....yes no? Actually it was one of my dealers push points to get a more expensive balt...lol. But it definitive doesn't have traction control because I have driven several cars that do.
So my question here is that being for one my car wont get faster then 30mph in L or I in either, or any combo of the 2, it would be retarded for someone with a similar car to even attempt to launch with or without traction control in L or I. Yes....Yes.
Another statement here would be if you have a auto 07+, don't launch in anything but D. I happen to know one of the mechanics at a gm dealership and he has seen some destroyed auto trannys because of improper use of L and I. His suggestion is unless you have a really heavy load do not use L and I at all.
Edit: I will say that brake launching is awesome as a whole. For me it doesn't work in anything but D, but it sure as hell works.
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