jcalvin1126

Ok, so recently I noticed it getting harder and harder to shift. Thought it was just mastercylinder starting to take a dump simply because I replaced the slave clutch and flywheel roughly 5k miles ago. Well I bought a master cylinder, put her in with no hiccups and now When I vacuum bleed it, there is a continuous stream of bubbles going into the resivoir. Which is awesome accept Ive been bleeding it for hours, and its still a frequent flow of air. Sooooo im thinking I have a leak somewhere,

Symtpom 1: try manualy bleeding it the old fashon way by pumping and cracking the bleeder then closing it and releasing. Only good that did me was made the clutch peddle stick to the floor untill you pumped it up.

Symptom 2: The slave is moving back and forth perfectly fine, and no dripping or anything in the trans. (I recorded it) However the pressure plate is making a creaking noise kinda like a old door opening.


Problem with troubleshooting:

When I am pumping the clutch (my wife) I am looking for leaks somewhere. If there is air being able to enter the system then you would think you would see dripping somewhere right? Nope not a drop anywhere...

SOOOO wtf man, Im about to rip my s257 out of this, by a stock turbo and then sell the damn thing and get a new car. Sick of this clutch ****.

zeeky420

I noticed that turning the car on help presure up the system every once in awhile

ItalianJoe1

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I've seen them leak at the line where it goes to the trans, and the vacuum pulls air past it but it seals under pressure. Did you replace that seal when you did the slave?

Also, i'm sure you don't want to hear this, but too much vacuum can fail the seals in the slave, if you pulled 25+ in/hg on it it's possible it's damaged.

63 Nova SS

iTrader: (3)

Will the peddle stay up on its own? You are closing the bleeder and pulling up on the peddle, then cracking the bleeder and pushing down on the peddle correct? I had a constant stream of little bubbles when I bled it with a vacuum bleeder and was totally bled. It came from it sucking air between the bleeder and the hose connected to it from the vacuum bleeder.

jcalvin1126

I replaced the clutch pipe and bleeder block, no seals though
Never went to 25 hg stayed around 20. The slave moves good just not enough to fully disengage. Which seals should I replace?

jcalvin1126

The bubbles I'm talking about are coming from the line that goes to the master cylinder Into the resivior. And yeah I did that, didn't see any bubbles. Also the peddle will stay up without help yes.

63 Nova SS

iTrader: (3)

Justin I think joe is talking about the seals in the slave itself. Sadly I don't know if you can replace those, without just replacing the slave. Did you replace your flywheel when doing the clutch, or how many miles were on it if you didn't? What clutch setup do you have? How far off the floor was your clutch engaging before you started with this?

Wert842

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Just a quick question and not being ignorant, but do you have the cap off the reservoir when trying to bleed it?

63 Nova SS

iTrader: (3)

Yeah I had just assumed he did but it's worth asking.

jcalvin1126

Yes I have the cap off, guess it's time to drop the trans and replace the slave for the 3rd time

63 Nova SS

iTrader: (3)

I'm sorry to hear that Justin. I've got way less power than you and just went with the gmpp clutch. I'm not an expert but with your setup would it be advisable to install that tob spacer? May change your engagement point with the peddle but may also help to you to not overextend. Sounds like as its wore in and got thinner, it is out of stroke.

jcalvin1126

I havent been able to find that anywhere? zzp doesnt list it.

63 Nova SS

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Ced used to have it on their sight but I don't see it there anymore either. There was a short thread on here last year talking about it and Ky stage 3 clutch.

Wert842

iTrader: (3)

that's a no no. Cap off means more air in the system. Only time the cap should be off to pour more fluids. Otherwise when you bleed the lines, it's pulling air through and escaping where the opening is.

63 Nova SS

iTrader: (3)

He has also posted on Facebook with a video. Think he is going to order the ZZP adjustable rod because it's not stroking far enough. I don't know if that's the problem as his pressure plate sounds like an old squeaky door when it's trying to compress the fingers.

63 Nova SS

iTrader: (3)

His pressure plate bolts were loose. Doesn't know how they got that way.

jcalvin1126

Thanks for updating them. haha