LNF transmission help please
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LNF transmission help please
18 months ago i bought a 2009 Chevy Cobalt SS/TC 5 speed, since then it has been more of a money pit that my boat! It all started when my wife beat me in a drag race(Infiniti G37x) and i was to have none of that! So I bought a ZZP tune, ZZP short throw shifter mod and K&N air intake and that was enough to keep her behind me. All was well for about 6 months and my factory clutch was not having it anymore. I brought it to a local mechanic friend of mine and he installed a new South Bend Stage 4 clutch, throw out bearing and Fidanza Aluminum flywheel. This was great until about June when i started to notice a subtle whine coming from the transmission. So, yet again car went back to the shop(different mechanic who specializes in transmissions) and he put in a new LSD differential all new bearings, seals, synchronizers and the 3rd/4th shift fork. But, he couldn't get it right again. When i got the car back first gear was hard, 2nd gear grinds on upshift or down unless you double clutch as well as 5th and reverse were tricky too. I just put new shifter cables in it last night and that rectified 1st, 5th and reverse. 2nd gear still grinds every time unless you double clutch it. Any ideas what could possibly be going wrong? Im at whits end and am very hesitant to send it to another mechanic because no one seems to understand these cars. HELP!!
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like i said synchros are BRAND NEW GM synchos...after i wrote this i went out and jacked up the front tires started the car and put it in 1st gear with the car running and clutch pushed to the floor, front tires started spinning.....
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Perhoas the guy who built did it incorrectly. I would guess the thired gear spacer which is a crush sleeve was not replaced or under/orver torqued. Screwed, sad to say. OR and UNLESS you are not getting full clutch disengagement, which is common with some aftermarket clutches. A ZZP adjustable m/cyl may help. OR not. Good luck
ps The Synchros never go. The blocker rings get damaged.
ps The Synchros never go. The blocker rings get damaged.
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Perhoas the guy who built did it incorrectly. I would guess the thired gear spacer which is a crush sleeve was not replaced or under/orver torqued. Screwed, sad to say. OR and UNLESS you are not getting full clutch disengagement, which is common with some aftermarket clutches. A ZZP adjustable m/cyl may help. OR not. Good luck
ps The Synchros never go. The blocker rings get damaged.
ps The Synchros never go. The blocker rings get damaged.
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i didn't install the synchros but i did purchase them myself, as far as the clutch pedal, it feels fine really. Im leaving toward TOB i find small drops of brake fluid from under my bell housing when i park at night, mechanic assured me "TOB is fine its just leaking out of the bottom of the bell housing from me bleeding the clutch lines." then I've been told there is no good reason for fluid to be in the bell housing EVER....whats right?
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i didn't install the synchros but i did purchase them myself, as far as the clutch pedal, it feels fine really. Im leaving toward TOB i find small drops of brake fluid from under my bell housing when i park at night, mechanic assured me "TOB is fine its just leaking out of the bottom of the bell housing from me bleeding the clutch lines." then I've been told there is no good reason for fluid to be in the bell housing EVER....whats right?
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He should of wiped the fluid up or caught it in the first place.
OP listen to this guy, the engagement on the South Bend Stage 4 is a little different. The LNF i drove with it had the zzp adjustable rod and we had to run it out to bring the pedal up.
Perhoas the guy who built did it incorrectly. I would guess the thired gear spacer which is a crush sleeve was not replaced or under/orver torqued. Screwed, sad to say. OR and UNLESS you are not getting full clutch disengagement, which is common with some aftermarket clutches. A ZZP adjustable m/cyl may help. OR not. Good luck
ps The Synchros never go. The blocker rings get damaged.
ps The Synchros never go. The blocker rings get damaged.
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wherever you are located, its key to know , so we can suggest alternative places to go to get your issues corrected, assuming the person who did the work will not fix it under some sort of warranty provision.
Typically leaking NEW TOB are just free parts replacement, unless the job was done at a GM dealer, in which case labor would be covered as well within a 90 day time frame iirc . cheers
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lets take the high road; its possible the distribution block is leaking and needs attention. TOB can be bad at the get go, I have now had two in the past 10 years, go bad.
wherever you are located, its key to know , so we can suggest alternative places to go to get your issues corrected, assuming the person who did the work will not fix it under some sort of warranty provision.
Typically leaking NEW TOB are just free parts replacement, unless the job was done at a GM dealer, in which case labor would be covered as well within a 90 day time frame iirc . cheers
wherever you are located, its key to know , so we can suggest alternative places to go to get your issues corrected, assuming the person who did the work will not fix it under some sort of warranty provision.
Typically leaking NEW TOB are just free parts replacement, unless the job was done at a GM dealer, in which case labor would be covered as well within a 90 day time frame iirc . cheers
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I have a south bend stg 4 no clutch rod needed. If its leaking fluid look to the bleeder block and tob
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I can count on one hand(with fingers to spare) how many people I know of who can build/rebuild the f35 correctly. The 1st-2nd gear assembly is another one of the many areas in the trans that can be easily damaged and assembled incorrectly. Most tranny shops are smart enough not to even offer reapair on these trans. I doubt its the clutch causing grinding, BUT I really hope Im wrong. Sry man, shitty deal.
Last edited by LNFwagonSS; 09-04-2015 at 03:57 AM.
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Thank you everyone for your input. I'm going to replace tob and whatever else is leaking, bleed clutch back out and hope and pray that does it. When it doesn't.....tell me who CAN rebuild these transmissions, I am located in western New York. Thanks again
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