ROB517

Gonna try to bump this again because I'm also in need of a new clutch

tuned08ss

4-500 whp, go for the south bend stage 4

ROB517

I was looking into clutch masters stage 4, 6 puck. I've never driven anything with a 6 puck and want to know if you guys are getting any chatter with it and if you would recommend it for a daily driver. I'd prefer not to spend an extra 250 bucks on the southbend.

63 Nova SS

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I have no experience with them but from what I have read the 6 puck isn't the most daily driver friendly as it doesn't really slip much. Most all say to use full face for daily use.

ROB517

That's what I was thinking, but I've read a few reviews saying people dd them.

blueLNFftw

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I have a custom OTTP + style clutch. It wont help much to post about it here since only 2 were made and they no longer can be, but it is amazing! It drives like a GMPP but grips like an expensive escort on an old, fat rich dude's wallet.

Ashlen Satori Morgan

Yep, this one won.

no_ss

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***my experience*** I had a 6 puck clutch in my car and it chattered all the time. I wanna say it was a clutchmasters(chatter masters) clutch. Engagement was shitty but now I have southbend stage 4+ with fidenza aluminum flywheel and it's very smooth and very drivable. Haven't hit boost on it yet because I just now broke it in. Rev matching is much easier and less jerky (can't even feel it a lot of times)

Spend the extra money for a southbend, you won't regret it.

double clutch

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This

I have the same setup. Drivability is great even with the aluminum flywheel.

DFZ24

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Has anyone has any reivews or opinions of the ZZP clutch kit for the F23???
Or knows of someone that is using them?
Can't get to find anyone using it.

Kozybe

I also am interested in anyone who has anything to say about the ZZP f23 2.2L clutch.

ml2242

Same here

yellow_cobalt

CAR- LNF
CLUTCH- GMPP
FLYWHEEL- Luk stock replacement
MILES ON CLUTCH- 15
DRIVING IMPRESSION- pedal is softer than South Bend, engagement is too smooth. I don't feel like I'm driving a performance vehicle. Hoping it will snap a little once broken in.
RECOMMENDATION- At the moment, no. But I prefer firmer clutch pedals and and quick engagement. If you like a stock feel, this is it. It's a Saab 9-5 clutch, so it can handle some power. Saab liked to over-build their vehicles.

Dave8699

So I'm posting here instead of starting a new post I see all the post here are pretty old but hopefully someone can give me some ideas.

so I'm building a kit car and the car total weight with drivetrain is around 1500lbs I have an lnf with a mu3 trans my question what do you guys recommend for a clutch and flywheel should I go lightweight, what stage ,brand etc right now I'm at stock power but looking to maybe crank it up to 300 to 400 any opinions would be appreciated

T-Man

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New stock clutch, LuK flywheel and you'll be golden. The factory clutch can hold quite a bit.

06blackbalt

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The gmpp also holds a good bit I am at 470whp with 480wtq an the gmpp is holding like a champ with multiple dyno sessions an track nights

Kobraa

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Does this clutch also work on lnf cars? ive seen posts both ways.

Dave8699

what flywheel are you using and what TOB where did you order it from

Tdubbs

It does, but if you get a flywheel with small dowels(99% sure you'd get one), you'll have to play with it to center it. Easiest method is a white Bic pen cut into pieces.

I currently have one, with shy of 20k miles, of which ~5-6k have been with a Z54 turbo. Still holds great, can't beat it for the price.

Kobraa

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And just put the pen over the dowels to help center? Thanks for info, z54 is the route im headed towards so thats good info.

Tdubbs

Yup, haven't heard of anyone having issues by doing it that way. I think CED has a picture with the pens in place on their website.

And the Z54 spools slower than a ZFR, so even without a boost ramp it comes in so smoothly that so far(I just cursed myself )it holds nicely. I'm not too worried though, guys with heavier torque hits are still rocking the GMPP and it's still holding.

Dave8699

Are you guys referring to ced part # 19212712
If that's the one is there a reason why it said not to use it on lfn engines because they recommend part # 24239996k
and are you guys just using stock flywheel or can I go with a fidanza aluminium flywheel or is that not recommended

Tdubbs

Yes, 19212712 is correct. The warning against LNF installs is due to warranty reasons. As to using the Fidanza, you could if you wanted to, but most have just stuck with a steel flywheel(myself included).

63 Nova SS

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I would just get the gmpp kit ( I run it on my lnf with no issues) and the luk flywheel and call it good. Kit comes with the lnf tob. Don't forget flywheel bolts as they are torque to yield and are not recommended to reuse.

Dave8699

So I'm installing a gmpp clutch kit and a luk LFW285 flywheel my question is instead of paying $50 for oem flywheel bolts has anyone used the arp 209-2801 bolts with no if yes do you still torque them down to the same specs as oem