please help, no gears!
11-19-2014, 11:11 AM
#1
please help, no gears!
Pulling out of my driveway yesterday i was in 1st gear when all of a sudden the car popped out of gear. Thinking maybe i wasnt fully in gear i stopped and put it back into gear. Let off the clutch and i dont move an inch.
The shifter goes into all of the gates all the way but no gear works at all. Ruh roh? Im not sure if this is a roll pin issue. Upon a quick lift of the boot cover it seems like my cable clamps are attached.
I HAVE smelt my clutch a few times lately... but besides a 2nd gear burnout where the clutch decided to slip instead of spinning the tires it hasn't shown any signs of slipping yet. new gmpp clutch as of april. car puts down 300whp.
The shifter goes into all of the gates all the way but no gear works at all. Ruh roh? Im not sure if this is a roll pin issue. Upon a quick lift of the boot cover it seems like my cable clamps are attached.
I HAVE smelt my clutch a few times lately... but besides a 2nd gear burnout where the clutch decided to slip instead of spinning the tires it hasn't shown any signs of slipping yet. new gmpp clutch as of april. car puts down 300whp.
Last edited by riceburner; 11-19-2014 at 12:26 PM.
11-19-2014, 11:40 AM
#2
A couple of easy ones...
Can you put it in gear with "clutch out" and no grind?
Are the shifter cables attached to the transmission? Do they move the arms on the tranny properly when you move the shifter?
Have you replaced the clutch? What are the other circumstances when you smelt it-were you slipping, etc?
Can you put it in gear with "clutch out" and no grind?
Are the shifter cables attached to the transmission? Do they move the arms on the tranny properly when you move the shifter?
Have you replaced the clutch? What are the other circumstances when you smelt it-were you slipping, etc?
11-19-2014, 12:24 PM
#5
A couple of easy ones...
Can you put it in gear with "clutch out" and no grind?
Are the shifter cables attached to the transmission? Do they move the arms on the tranny properly when you move the shifter?
Have you replaced the clutch? What are the other circumstances when you smelt it-were you slipping, etc?
Can you put it in gear with "clutch out" and no grind?
Are the shifter cables attached to the transmission? Do they move the arms on the tranny properly when you move the shifter?
Have you replaced the clutch? What are the other circumstances when you smelt it-were you slipping, etc?
i need to check if the arms move. the clutch was replaced with my trans this last season with a gmpp and hadn't ever slipped before this, besides one failed 2nd gear burnout where it slipped like crazy a few weeks ago.
here and there after a pull i smell the clutch.
i just find the clutch being hard to believe since it literally popped. usually i think there would be some serious slipping issues first.
11-19-2014, 01:41 PM
#13
ditto
So you start, shift to first with clutch pedal down, let out clutch, and no movement but grinding gears? Did you try to shift without pushing in the clutch pedal?
It sounds like either the clutch is not engaging (clutch/TOB bad), or the transmission is not moving the gears into position properly (likely cables). Rule out the cables first cuz it's easier than pulling apart the trans.
That sucks right there. I'd think an esploded TOB would mean it would be difficult to disengage the clutch, and therefore grind trying to put it into gear with clutch pedal depressed, correct?
i put it in gear and when i let off the clutch, i do hear grinding, any gear.
i need to check if the arms move. the clutch was replaced with my trans this last season with a gmpp and hadn't ever slipped before this, besides one failed 2nd gear burnout where it slipped like crazy a few weeks ago.
here and there after a pull i smell the clutch.
i need to check if the arms move. the clutch was replaced with my trans this last season with a gmpp and hadn't ever slipped before this, besides one failed 2nd gear burnout where it slipped like crazy a few weeks ago.
here and there after a pull i smell the clutch.
It sounds like either the clutch is not engaging (clutch/TOB bad), or the transmission is not moving the gears into position properly (likely cables). Rule out the cables first cuz it's easier than pulling apart the trans.
That sucks right there. I'd think an esploded TOB would mean it would be difficult to disengage the clutch, and therefore grind trying to put it into gear with clutch pedal depressed, correct?
11-19-2014, 01:49 PM
#14
Does this mean you will be selling off more parts out of your car.....? lol
Sorry, had to do it.
I hope everything works out, and that its just an easy cable adjustment.
Im thinking if the cable disconnected from the tranny end, you will still feel pressure putting it into gears as the cable slides through the line.
It might feel normal, but be disconnected and not doing anything.
Sorry, had to do it.
I hope everything works out, and that its just an easy cable adjustment.
Im thinking if the cable disconnected from the tranny end, you will still feel pressure putting it into gears as the cable slides through the line.
It might feel normal, but be disconnected and not doing anything.
11-19-2014, 02:22 PM
#16
Oh boy. and yeah iirc from installing that is only accessible inside the trans?
not sure dude. clutch pedal felt the same
we were trying to prep a road
ditto
So you start, shift to first with clutch pedal down, let out clutch, and no movement but grinding gears? Did you try to shift without pushing in the clutch pedal?
It sounds like either the clutch is not engaging (clutch/TOB bad), or the transmission is not moving the gears into position properly (likely cables). Rule out the cables first cuz it's easier than pulling apart the trans.
That sucks right there. I'd think an esploded TOB would mean it would be difficult to disengage the clutch, and therefore grind trying to put it into gear with clutch pedal depressed, correct?
So you start, shift to first with clutch pedal down, let out clutch, and no movement but grinding gears? Did you try to shift without pushing in the clutch pedal?
It sounds like either the clutch is not engaging (clutch/TOB bad), or the transmission is not moving the gears into position properly (likely cables). Rule out the cables first cuz it's easier than pulling apart the trans.
That sucks right there. I'd think an esploded TOB would mean it would be difficult to disengage the clutch, and therefore grind trying to put it into gear with clutch pedal depressed, correct?
we were trying to prep a road
11-19-2014, 02:49 PM
#19
which i do but i am good on her. don't slip the clutch much, don't ride on it while driving, etc.
yeah i'm trying to bet it's not the pin or anything since i can feel the trans shift into all gears; the shifter ahs all the feel and i still have clutch pressure.
but i am good on her. don't slip the clutch much, don't ride on it while driving, etc.yeah i'm trying to bet it's not the pin or anything since i can feel the trans shift into all gears; the shifter ahs all the feel and i still have clutch pressure.
11-19-2014, 02:55 PM
#21
Put it in 1st and reverse and then try to start the car. Does it try to move?
If it does your TOB blew up.
Now pop the shift linkages off and put the car into gear by HAND. Then start the car. Does the clutch work?
If not, clutch. Or trans...
If it does your TOB blew up.
Now pop the shift linkages off and put the car into gear by HAND. Then start the car. Does the clutch work?
If not, clutch. Or trans...
11-19-2014, 02:57 PM
#22
Senior Member
I would agree, but I have seen where a TOB was going bad and it caused the clutch to burn up bacause it would not engage all the way, and he did mention he has been smelling clutch lately, and the failed 2nd gear burnout also throws a red flag for me.
