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Old 08-28-2011, 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by damastah
ok... upshift question... i only do this when racing...

i try to shift really fast, so right when i shift, i dont give the engine time to drop rpms, and i let off the clutch. i feel a jerky lurch feeling...


is this bad? am i messing something up when i let go of clutch too fast when engine and trans arent spinning at right speeds?
I think that is more of a result of the sudden change in engine pull when you get back on the throttle. When you kick the clutch down, you are essentially causing the car to let off power from the wheels, then when you finish your shift and release the pedal, the power pulls the car hard again. Shift shock, if you will.
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Originally Posted by damastah
ok... upshift question... i only do this when racing...

i try to shift really fast, so right when i shift, i dont give the engine time to drop rpms, and i let off the clutch. i feel a jerky lurch feeling...


is this bad? am i messing something up when i let go of clutch too fast when engine and trans arent spinning at right speeds?
just agressive driving. slightly more wear on the clutch, as its slipping from redline to whatever rpm you are in the next gear, but nothing too extreme in terms of wear. The most worn component i would imagine is the syncro trying to get the shaft speed equal in such a short time, but even still, nothing i would be concerned with
Old 08-29-2011, 12:30 AM
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okay thanks... and sometimes when i try to do NLS, and i let off the clutch... engine rpms just stay where their at, car shakes violently, and out the exhaust all i hear is farting noises... car goes no where...

trifecta tuned
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Originally Posted by damastah
okay thanks... and sometimes when i try to do NLS, and i let off the clutch... engine rpms just stay where their at, car shakes violently, and out the exhaust all i hear is farting noises... car goes no where...

trifecta tuned
The fact that you're Trifecta tuned probably has a lot to do with it - the car wasn't designed to do NLS on different engine maps. What's more, you're probably timing the shift wrong.

My impression is that you're shifting way too late. The tach in these cars lag, so even with a stock one you need to initiate the shift somewhere around 500 rpm BEFORE redline to get the timing right.
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Originally Posted by Force
The fact that you're Trifecta tuned probably has a lot to do with it - the car wasn't designed to do NLS on different engine maps. What's more, you're probably timing the shift wrong.

My impression is that you're shifting way too late. The tach in these cars lag, so even with a stock one you need to initiate the shift somewhere around 500 rpm BEFORE redline to get the timing right.
i never hit redline.. i do it about 250~500 before shift, i barely ever nls, but everytime i do my car farts... bad. sometimes CEL flashes at me...
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Slow-Moving Traffic

Situation: the driver finds himself or herself in a heavily congested flow of traffic. Sometimes the cars ahead come to a full stop. In between stops they sometimes crawl at approximately a walking pace, and at other times speed up substantially only to rapidly slow down again.
In this situation, stressful for a new manual transmission driver, it is important that the driver remain calm and focused. The driver must remember that to prevent the engine from stalling at any time, all that is required is to depress the clutch pedal all the way down. The trick is to keep moving smoothly while maintaining a generous gap to the next car, and stop and resume if necessary. It should all be done without slipping the clutch. The driver should monitor the traffic as far ahead as visibility allows, to anticipate whether a complete stop is about to become necessary.
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Our transmission isn't designed for clutch-less shifting, DO NOT DO IT. Yes, you can do it easily in the RL. SS/SC are hard, but possible. Essentially what you do it drive in 2nd gear for instance. Let off the gas, NOTICE its very easy to pop out of gear if you let off the gas without touching your clutch. If you rev'd to about 5,500rpm in 2nd let off the gas and IMMEDIATLY just push the shifter from 2nd to 3rd, it will let your right into 3rd. I've done it multiple times, I don't recommmend EVER!! Your pretty much grinding the **** out of everything in your tranny. So just use the clutch.

Don't quote me on the rpms. I never look at them in the Redline because its in the wrong spot(center dash). :P I listen for my shifts unless I'm pushing for drag racing, then I watch all the way to 7,200 rpm.
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Originally Posted by bratboy90
Our transmission isn't designed for clutch-less shifting, DO NOT DO IT. Yes, you can do it easily in the RL. SS/SC are hard, but possible. Essentially what you do it drive in 2nd gear for instance. Let off the gas, NOTICE its very easy to pop out of gear if you let off the gas without touching your clutch. If you rev'd to about 5,500rpm in 2nd let off the gas and IMMEDIATLY just push the shifter from 2nd to 3rd, it will let your right into 3rd. I've done it multiple times, I don't recommmend EVER!! Your pretty much grinding the **** out of everything in your tranny. So just use the clutch.

Don't quote me on the rpms. I never look at them in the Redline because its in the wrong spot(center dash). :P I listen for my shifts unless I'm pushing for drag racing, then I watch all the way to 7,200 rpm.
It's the exact same transmission....wtf?

All you're doing is fuuuucking up your synchros. If you want to wear your syncros like that, that's fine, but I like my transmissions to work for more than 15,000 miles.

Think about how much abuse a clutch is designed to take. They're pretty stout when you consider it, right? Now a synchro is only designed to allow what should be a neutral shaft to match an input shaft, not a loaded, accelerating shaft. We're talking a few foot pounds. If you want to throw hundreds of foot pounds through a synchro that was designed to take forces closer to the scale of a dozen ft-lbs just so you can say you're shifting without the clutch, then go ahead, bot don't be surprised when you find you're locked out of gears that you're not PERFECTLY rev matched to.

bratboy, this post wasnt aimed at you either...its really to anyone who does this.
Old 02-19-2012, 11:17 PM
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thread resurrection ftw nice write up i use the hand brake on steep hills when someone is dead in my butt which is usually every time i get on a steep hill
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Great thread! I just bought my car and man 1st is super tall! I kinda felt stupid the first couple days driving it. Got the hang of it and now im cruising buck free
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also great way to save on gas 135 shifting!!! skip 2nd and 4th!!!
like he said need to learn where rpm is and try to be there when you let clutch out
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the downshifting was new to me, my last car was manual im on auto now sadly.. but getting a new car soon and this is something ill be trying. nice guide/good sticky
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Amazing write up, I was taught how to drive stick exactly how this explains. I still refer to this on downshifting.
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getting my first car soon, hopefully manual, im kinda nervous so every little manual like this helps haha thanks for writing.
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thanks!
Old 05-15-2012, 08:55 PM
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not gonna read the whole to find out, but has it already been stated that when you drive a stick, much like your own stick, you should keep you hands off it until you're ready to shift?
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thanks for the info
by the way thats a hell lot of tips
anyways thanks for sharing
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Hi I am Tobias Tiat. I am from Pakistan. I really very happy to join this forum for disucssion. I found this forum very interesting and informative about discussed topics. I like it.
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Awesome still reading this thread. Getting better in my 06SS/SC just gotta get the "heel-toe" down.
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Nice thread man!!! I'm driving manuel since 2-3 years. If I had this when I was younger... Damn I would be better at the beggining


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