06_cobaltSS

Well i will ask him, and for my questions i will ask when i get dont cleaning my car.

Some questions i got

1. whats the difference between the 2.0 map bar and the 2.5?
2. do i need the lsj tb or will mine still work?
3. i went to r.a.w and i couldnt find anything that i need on there, can someone post likes of where i can get the parts that i need?
4. if anyone is selling any parts that i need to do this s/c build can you pm me? thanks

pjk91

1. You can use the map that is on the M62. Will need to be rewired (5min job--as long as you keep the pigtail from the old map sensor on your 2.4)

2. You can use the 2.4 tb or the 2.0 tb, either will work. To use the 2.0 tb you need to rescale some airflow tables in the tune.

3. All the parts that are used in this are parts off the 2.0s/c. You need to find the parts for yourself, whether it be a junkyard ( www.car-part.com was a great resource for me) or eBay or whatever.

4. See #3

Also, re-read the thread from the beginning it will help answer most of your questions...




Parts List:
Eaton M62 Supercharger
Supercharger Gasket
Stock LSJ Intake Manifold
Intake Manifold Bottom Mount
Intake Manifold Gasket (Part #12597855)
2.5 Bar Map/Intake Temp Sensor (on upper left of LSJ manifold)
2.5 Bar Pigtail (Part #88988320)
Bosch/LSJ Intercooler Pump
Intercooler Pump Wiring Pigtail or Butt Connecters
Intercooler Pump Mounting Bracket (rebelautoworx.com)
Cobra Heat Exchanger (Used from a 03 Mustang Cobra)
Cobra Heat Exchanger Brackets (custom or bwoodyperformance.com)
42.5# Injectors (recommended)
Injector Harness
Wideband Air/Fuel Ratio Gauge (THIS IS NOT AN OPTIONAL ITEM!!!)
Boost/Vacuum Gauge
Stage 2 Belt (Part# 12597993; requires one rib be cut off)
Custom Idler Pulley with Mounting Bracket (rebelautoworx.com)
Extended Upper Radiator Hose
Coolant Reservoir Tank (Cobalt or Ion Recommend)
NGK Copper Spark Plugs (Part# LFR6A-11)
SS/SC intake
10ft. x ¾” I.D. Hose
10ft x ¼” I.D. Hose
4ft. x ½” I.D. Hose
Small and Large Hose clamps.
3 x 1/8th NPT ¼” Barb Fittings
Self Tapping Sheet Metal Screws (Mounting H/E brackets)
6M 25mm Bolts
6M 90mm Studs with Locking Nuts
8M 50mm Bolts
Water Wetter Coolant
1/8th NPT Drill Tap
21/64th Drill bit (for the 1/8th tap)
20 gauge wiring
Zip Ties
Electrical Tape
Plastic Wiring Sleeves


Optional:
LSJ Throttle Body (requires rewiring)
Aero Force Interceptor Gauge
Gauge Pillar
Oil Pressure Gauge

Notes:
• A 2 bar map sensor will work instead of a 2.5 bar map sensor, however the 2.5 bar map sensor from the LSJ will also read intake manifold temps.
• Stock LSJ Injectors will work not work for this setup. The IDC will be too high.
• The stock LSJ belt may also be used with this setup, however it may require a larger idler pulley and there is no guarantee on the fitment of the larger idler on the rebel bracket.
• I’ve heard that the stock LE5 Injector harness will work with the 42.5lb Injectors however I cannot confirm this.

Tool List:
Wrench Set
Spark Plug Socket
Drill with Assorted Bit Sizes.
Soldering Iron (optional)
Screwdrivers
Jack
2x Jack Stands
Creeper (optional)
Grinding Tool
Vice Grips
Box Knife
Teflon Tape
Allen keys

Clearing up some Common Misconceptions:
1. You DO NOT need the LSJ Alternator for this setup, however you will need to cut one rib off the stage two belt
2. You’ll need to rewire the Throttle Body pigtail if you decide to use the LSJ throttle Body. (see below for how to)
3. This is not a BOLT ON, this setup will require a tune, and is unsafe to even attempt to drive if it is not tuned.

Preparation:
1. I highly recommend removing the front bumper, headlights, headlight mounting brackets, front wheels and fender lining, REMOVAL OF THESE ITEMS ARE UP TO YOU TO FIGURE OUT, HOWEVER THEY’RE ALL PRETTY SIMPLE.
2. If you plan on using a LSJ intake you will need to remove the windshield wiper fluid reservoir from the driver’s side fender.
3. You will need to cut open the stock engine wiring harness and relocated the MAF and Throttle Body Wires to the other side of the engine compartment. Allow Plenty of slack in the wiring, they can always be tucked away later.
4. I also would recommend setting up two tables in your workspace. The first with all the items that need to go on the car, and the second for the items you take off the car.
5. Stock the fridge with drinks and snacks, this will take a while!
6. If you are not already using fully synthetic motor oil, you should probably switch over before installing your supercharger. The LE5 requires 5 quarts of 5W-30

06_cobaltSS

ok this may seem stupid but idk, is the heat exchanger aka the intercooler? because i have never heard that word befor.

pjk91

basically. yeah. you can get them for <100 on eBay

RedBaseBolt

This is also relevant to 2.2's I believe...at least the parts list. Not the TB stuff though of course.

Awsome how-to!

Brandon97Z

iTrader: (1)

Its like a radiator for the aftercooler (a.k.a. the ss/sc intake manifold).

06_cobaltSS

ok thanks, could someone tell me if this will work because it says "THE END PORT HAS A SLIGHT ANGLE", will it still work just fine? also will the stock ss/sc heat exchanger work just fine?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...TODAY.m238.lVI

RedBaseBolt

If you get a new pulley the bent one won't be a problem.

06_cobaltSS

ok so the slight angle on the end port wont matter, and will a stock ss/sc heat exchanger work?

BlilBT

Nice write up

06_cobaltSS

can anyone answer my two questions, about the end port and the ss/sc heat exchanger

06_cobaltSS

?? can anyone answer my two questions plz

1.does the slight angle on the end port matter?
2.will a stock ss/sc heat exchanger work?

Quasimotor

On a side note, you can also run the LSJ oil pan on the LE5 engine. The advantage to this is the 6-7 quart capacity versus the 5 quart on the LE5.

Cheap Insurance IMHO.

Jim

06_cobaltSS

so what does more oil capacity do?

HunterKiller89

iTrader: (1)

cooler oil temps. thats about it

06_cobaltSS

thanks thats what i thought

pjk91

which is a good thing, considering our compression ratio.

06_cobaltSS

more questions:

1. will a air fuel ratio gauge work fine instead of the wideband?
2. will any heat exchanger work fine aslong as it fits?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Alumi...em140201308052
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Alumi...em140201926625
First one or second one?
3. will this intercooler pump work fine?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB....cWAT.m240.lVI
4. what kind of Coolant Reservoir Tank do i need? any links will help

xx07cobaltss24xx

bump i wanna know the same answers lol

Beck

iTrader: (5)

1. you need a wideband, narrowband will not be sufficient.
2. if the heat exchanger fits it should work. How well its cooling capabilities are, are up to you to discover.
3. yes that intercooler pump will work perfect.
4. any coolant reservoir tank should work as long as you can get it to fit

Quasimotor

When you're spinning the crap out of a engine that was never ment to have the extra load of a blower not only does the extra oil cool, but you have less chance of starving the bottom end with the fast revs the blower causes.

If you think about it, the LSJ has that larger pan for a reason from the factory.

Jim

hinow41

Nice write up how much does it cost and can it be done to an auto 2.4 ? May be a dumb question but Idk

pjk91

yeah. it can be put on an auto.

HunterKiller89

iTrader: (1)

physically, it fits fine. just make sure to tune your transmission as well, because it needs to know how much power its going to be shifting at

hinow41

Ok cool how much does something like this cost ?