Nighthawk243

OK. I got mine installed.

The harness from the HHR forum is NOT the same as the one from the Cobalt. The one we have has 3 connectors: 2 bezel connectors, and then a connector for the horn switch (red connector).

Maven

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The Corvette was available without any wheel controls. 05 and 06 I believe.

JL-KA

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This is what I don't understand. I saw an HHR post that said this also. How is this possible?
You simply put on the new steering wheel with absolutely no conecting of new wires?

warrenb213

this may have been something GM changed to cut costs.

perhaps they already have cruise enabled, so they could save time in production. I'd imagine this may be an 09+ thing, I'll try it on my 07 soon enough.

JL-KA

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He already had cruise...I'm talking about audio. And if I remember correctly the HHR was a 2007. I'll try to find the post.

Here is the one I was thinking about
https://www.cobaltss.net/forums/show...radio+controls

From what I'm reading, it seems like if you have cruise already then you don't need to wire anything to get audio...just a simple swap

Can anyone confirm this?

Nighthawk243

The wires to add the radio controls are there. I added bezels and the harness from a donor wheel (leather on the donor was not up to my standard, so I stuck with the stock one) and the wheel audio controls worked right off the bat.

I'm driving a 2007 G5 btw that came with the base model 2007 wheel (Only had DIC controls... nothing else).

As far as cruise, cruise DOES NOT work immediately when connected. You will need to take it to the dealership to have it enabled. GM just flashes the ECU for each car, so the Cruise in cars that didn't get equipped with it from factory will have it turned off in the ECU. The pins on the clock spring socket are there however.

Maven

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09 and 10 cars are going to be different there is a lot of parts and option consolidation going on since the car is on its way out, expect some 09s to have the harness already and some not to, I would wager that all the 10s will have the audio harness since they all have OnStar. Something new for 2010 is the return of the base model,(LS is an option now again) and for the first time a Cobalt with no air, 2010 is gonna have weird **** happen

Nighthawk243

Yeah, which is why I suggest verifying the pinouts before ordering. I know changes in the pinouts is causing alot of issues for the HHR guys. Even if someone does end up with the wrong pinout, at least it is possible to fix it.

Nighthawk243

Success on my 2.2L G5 with just a wheel control (and harness) swap and a reflash. The service manager was dumbfounded.

I think you only need to do the pin additions if you don't have the BCM wiring there to support the cruise (Probably on very low trims of the Cobalt that don't even have MP3 capability or power locks...etc). The G5 Coupe is pretty much equal to the Cobalt LT, so I'd imagine the 07-10 Cobalt LT and higher trim levels are capable of doing just a simple swap. If you have the Grey wire in BCM Pin 61, you should just be able to do the easy bezel/wheel swap method. Mine already had an occupied pin 61 slot (By a grey wire), so it was already wired up to the clock spring.

kafer79

Nighthawk....just curious how much were you charged for the ECU reflash?

Maven

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Its not actually a reflash its literally a 2 minute procedure, anyhting more than the shops minimum charge is a ripoff

LTBALTBMX

Can you just order the buttons from GMPartsDirect and install them as opposed to buying an entire wheel? I have an 09 LT.

Nighthawk243

$67.84. Basically equal to 1 hours worth of labor. This number will be higher or lower depending on what the dealership's labor charge is.

Yes. You need the buttons and the harness that plugs into the buttons. Be warned though that the harness isn't cheap for the Cobalt. It seems to be much more expensive than the one from the HHR. I'd imagine that you could use the HHR's if you just repinned it.

Personally I just bought a leather wheel from LKQ Quebec for like 71 shipped, and I just yanked the harness and buttons out of it. I'm currently selling just the leather wheel (less buttons) on ebay to recover some of that cost.

warrenb213

the portion they would flash on would not flash my tune away would it? pretty sure it's just setting a value right?

Maven

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Nope has nothing to do with your tune, and its not a "flash" its just checking an option box in the BCM, it doesnt even get hooked up to the computer, Tech2 and candi module is all thats needed.

Cobalt08LS

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what if i just wanted the leather wheel?
could i just take the harness from my 08ls wheel and plug them into the leather wheel and just have the same controls as my ls wheel but just have a leather wheel?
idc about cruise control and radio i just want a leather wheel

Maven

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Yeah leather wheel is a direct swap, just take your switches and bezels and harness and swap em to the leather wheel. Ive got the leather wheel(and all the controls) in my LS.

Nighthawk243

Yep. All the bezels fit both wheels. I'm using the cruise and audio from a leather wheel on my stock non-leather one. I already sold the wheel though. You should be able to find stripped 07-10 wheels on ebay though, there are a few.

Cobalt08LS

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really? so i can just have the 2 controls on a leather wheel and use it on my ls???
the info button and the back button

Maven

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yes really.

PsychoCam

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controls harness and plastic bezel.

I have the part numbers for the bezel and control switch but I cannot get a part number for the harness.

there are like 5 different ones to choose from. ced tried helping me out and we couldnt find the exact harness I need.

so i may just buy the whole steering wheel

Cobalt08LS

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Yeah all i would need is the wheel leather wheel would be ftw! Idc about cruise or audio controls.so ill swap my bezels and harnesses I just have to figure out who would install the wheel. Im not even guna think about putting it on or messing w it. How much do u think chevy would charge me.? I know a shop who may beable to do it tho. But wanted to know if i should even think about going to chevy

Maven

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Any reputable shop should be able to do it for less than an hour labor.

Cobalt08LS

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anyone have pix of a ss wheel on a ls with ls controls on it

Nighthawk243

I couldn't get a solid number on the harness either. It won't come up in anyone's systems. The harness is a Delphi harness, but not a recongized P/N.

The label on the harness gave the following number: 6092610 00A

It'll look like your current wheel... but only leather wrapped. The airbag emblem will be the same...etc.