04Redline0124 "Chris" Stole my Fuel Injectors

[ebristol]

Back in June I answered Chris's plea for help. He think his fuel injectors went to shit and started a thread about it..... http://www.ionforums.com/forums/buy-...ed-42-ers.html I had just installed my 60s and had an extra set laying around. I agreed to send them to him for the price of shipping with the expectation he would send them back to me once he figured out what was wrong. Injectors finally showed up at my door (today) but they were not mine. "Better safe then sorry" I marked my injectors with silver paint before I shipped them. So I PM Chris and post in the Dirty south LSJ thread on CSS. ItalianJoe replies right away and says they are in Chris's car. Chris replies to my PM and here is what transpires... Originally Posted by ebristol Dude. WTF? I want my injectors back. Not yours! This is f'n bs. Originally Posted by 04redline0124 those r urs wtf u talkin bout Originally Posted by ebristol Do you think I am fucken stupid you dumb ass? I marked mine before I sent them to you just in case you tried pulling this shit! Joe said they were in your car too. I want mine back. Originally Posted by 04redline0124 my bad fuck face..i forgot we didnt bother switching them because id thought id help u out and fuckin give u the good injectors that have 11K miles on them and where jsut flowmatched and cleaned fomr joes friends injector shop....god for bid u get the good side of this ***************************************** And he is lying about the flow matching. One time I asked him about my injectors and he said ItalianJoe had them and was flow matching them. When I asked for clarification he said he was "confused" and that Joe had his and was flow matching his. I don't expect to get my injectors back but I just wanted to let you guys know what is going on when you deal with Chris. Good luck selling your NOS kit bud.

[05redline]

Is this the same fag who claimed to have the fastest LSJ out there?


Sounds like a chumap ass kid.

[ebristol]

Originally Posted by 05redline

Is this the same fag who claimed to have the fastest LSJ out there?


Sounds like a chumap ass kid.

Yeah he was running a 90 shot on a Stage 2 setup. He claims his injectors are just as good as mine. Are you f'n serious dude????

[ItalianJoe1]

Uncalled for bro.

Chris handled this poorly, no doubt. You didn't get Chris' injectors back anyway.

You got my injectors, pulled when I was rebuilding my engine. Perfectly working GM stage injectors, just like you sent me. I had Chris' injectors sitting at my house for the longest time, so I gave them to a friend with an injection shop to have them tested and cleaned, just to be 100% sure. They checked out ok, so I threw them in my car anyway and gave Chris back mine, which I know are perfect.

Glad you feel like some major indescretion has been committed here, but as I explained to Chris, I will gladly take his car apart again and put my injectors (the ones you have) in there, and take yours back out, and send them back to you, if you are willing to pay for it. I'm not wasting my time on such a pointless endeavor, including shipping them and having Chris drive for almost an hour to get to my house in the first place.

At the end of the day, you have a perfectly fine set of injectors. Are they the same ones you shipped out? No. Are they any different? No. Is there reason for this thread? I don't think so.

I just want to express how I feel, so there is no 'he said' bullshit involving me. Thanks.

[theneelster]

What a tool.

[ebristol]

Here are his friends "Clowning" him!

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/s...his_160846.htm

[BlueSS-supercharged]

point is from what i read is that he wants his injectors back not some other guys.

[ebristol]

Originally Posted by ItalianJoe1

At the end of the day, you have a perfectly fine set of injectors. Are they the same ones you shipped out? No. Are they any different? No. Is there reason for this thread? I don't think so.

I just want to express how I feel, so there is no 'he said' bullshit involving me. Thanks.

Alright. If you say so. Its hard to know who to trust. You know what mean?

So what is the deal with this whole "flowmatching" deal? True/False?

[stonny9]

From reading Joe's post he didnt realize it mattered to u as both sets of injectors were working fine. I understand ur reasoning though. If Joe had know he would of switched them back out and just charged chris for the work.

[ebristol]

Originally Posted by stonny9

From reading Joe's post he didnt realize it mattered to u as both sets of injectors were working fine. I understand ur reasoning though. If Joe had know he would of switched them back out and just charged chris for the work.

I wish I knew what was going on. I was lied to several times about where my injectors where and when I was getting them back.

Chris's car was running like shit before. Is it running better? I made it clear to him that I wanted mine back. Not some beat up ones.

Then when I asked him about it he lied to me? I mean...is this what I get for trying to help him out?

[ItalianJoe1]

Originally Posted by ebristol

Alright. If you say so. Its hard to know who to trust. You know what mean?

So what is the deal with this whole "flowmatching" deal? True/False?

I had them tested, from talking to the owner, there is no way of adjusting those Siemens injectors to change the flow, so he tested the set to ensure that they all flowed the same. None of any involved injectors were flowmatched. The ones I had tested were the questionable ones, out of Chris' car, since they checked out fine I put them in my car.

[05redline]

Originally Posted by ebristol

Then when I asked him about it he lied to me? I mean...is this what I get for trying to help him out?

That's why it doesn't pay to help someone on some internet forum out.

[ItalianJoe1]

Originally Posted by ebristol

I wish I knew what was going on. I was lied to several times about where my injectors where and when I was getting them back.

Chris's car was running like shit before. Is it running better? I made it clear to him that I wanted mine back. Not some beat up ones.

Then when I asked him about it he lied to me? I mean...is this what I get for trying to help him out?

The car had a random hesistation/misfire. I swapped in a spare set of coils I had, he got those injectors to test, and some other small parts. It finally did it one day when I had the laptop hooked up, and I saw that it was connected to a huge MAP spike/dip. Replaced the MAP sensor, car has been golden since.

I was not involved with any of the previous dealings you and Chris had, so excuse me if I don't seem to correlate with him, I knew only that he got some injectors from you, since I told him to as a diagnostic tool. I used the opportunity of having an extra set here to have them tested.

[ebristol]

Originally Posted by ItalianJoe1

I had them tested, from talking to the owner, there is no way of adjusting those Siemens injectors to change the flow, so he tested the set to ensure that they all flowed the same. None of any involved injectors were flowmatched. The ones I had tested were the questionable ones, out of Chris' car, since they checked out fine I put them in my car.

So you have Chris's injectors and Chris has mine. So what is the deal with the injectors I recieved?

I have no problem helping people out. But I was constantly lied to by Chris about where mine where and when I was going to get them back. I have had them lined up for sale for several weeks.

Now I have injectors that I can not verify the history of. How I am supposed to sell these to someone with confidence?

[sneaky]

although I feel your reason to let the fellow members know.. might just be best to take to a PM?

[ebristol]

Originally Posted by sneaky

although I feel your reason to let the fellow members know.. might just be best to take to a PM?

Agreed.
I tried talking to him in PMs but got no where. He just keep lying to me.

[04redline0124]

Originally Posted by ebristol

So you have Chris's injectors and Chris has mine. So what is the deal with the injectors I recieved?

I have no problem helping people out. But I was constantly lied to by Chris about where mine where and when I was going to get them back. I have had them lined up for sale for several weeks.

Now I have injectors that I can not verify the history of. How I am supposed to sell these to someone with confidence?

wtf do u mena lied??? my injectors where at the shop..where does the lying portion come in?? And if you really wanna get into this fucking bullshit.. YOU OWE ME!! a while back we traded dps and cash...u fuckin sent me a damn clogged one that almost blew up my fucking car, so stop with the trash talking...misinformed is different then lying asswipe....i tell u when i get info...I didnt know what was fully goin on until i found out that joe put he cleaned ones in there, and I was then not goign to drive down a fucking hr to have them put back in and the others out...I cna do them myself if I really wanted to also. But ur such a toolbag when you talkin shit, when we where still talking in PM's. You can say whatever you want. But at teh end of the day you still have perfectly running injectors so stop crying.

[ebristol]

Originally Posted by 04redline0124

i tell u when i get info...I didnt know what was fully goin on until i found out that joe put he cleaned ones in there, and I was then not goign to drive down a fucking hr to have them put back in and the others out...I cna do them myself if I really wanted to also. But ur such a toolbag when you talkin shit, when we where still talking in PM's. You can say whatever you want. But at teh end of the day you still have perfectly running injectors so stop crying.

As long as the injectors I got are perfectly fine I'll be ok. I don't expect you to send mine back. I did expect you not to lie to me but I guess that I was asking too much.

I just want people to know who they are dealing when dealing with 04Redline0124.

[04redline0124]

Originally Posted by ebristol

As long as the injectors I got are perfectly fine I'll be ok. I don't expect you to send my back. I did expect you not to lie to me but I guess that I was asking too much.

I just want people to know who they are dealing when dealing with 04Redline0124.

lol ask anyone else who has bought from me...ur the first one to cry a river, EVER!!!!

[BLAZIN07SS]

ok it did take awhile for chris to get those injectors back to you but chris is not a bad guy. i have known him personally for quite some time now so i can vouch for him.

[ebristol]

Originally Posted by 04redline0124

lol ask anyone else who has bought from me...ur the first one to cry a river, EVER!!!!

I know. This is all my fault. I should have never tried helping you out in the first place.

WTF was I thinking?

[ItalianJoe1]

Originally Posted by ebristol

As long as the injectors I got are perfectly fine I'll be ok. I don't expect you to send mine back. I did expect you not to lie to me but I guess that I was asking too much.

I just want people to know who they are dealing when dealing with 04Redline0124.

Yes, the injectors you have are fine. They were working perfectly when they were pulled from my car, the only reason they came out is that I had the engine apart, otherwise they were fine. I thought it would be better for me to assume any risk that there might be with Chris' injectors, so they are in my car. You have my good injectors.

As long as everyone is happy now, please delete this thread, or ask that it be locked. This kind of shit is unnecessary, it could have easily been resolved via PM or a simple phonecall.

Originally Posted by BLAZIN07SS

ok it did take awhile for chris to get those injectors back to you but chris is not a bad guy. i have known him personally for quite some time now so i can vouch for him.

Chris isn't a bad guy, he's just stupid

[Borderlin3]

I figure I would throw in my 2 cents to clarify this.

Granted you sent him the exact same injectors, his point is that chris lied to him saying that he got his back, when he didnt. Its a ethics thing. christ some people are nit picky.

oh and chris, your exhaust sounds terrible.

[04redline0124]

Originally Posted by Borderlin3

I figure I would throw in my 2 cents to clarify this.

Granted you sent him the exact same injectors, his point is that chris lied to him saying that he got his back, when he didnt. Its a ethics thing. christ some people are nit picky.

oh and chris, your exhaust sounds terrible.

dont have to tell me that lol its a broken gm exhaust one of the mufflers is broken

[kapster]

learned my lesson a LONG time ago dont buy/sell or try to help more than words on car forums. period.