the white man is the devil? (NYC)

[impulseballer]

so I stayed in the city this weekend with my fiance for a few days at the manhattan club. my mom gave it to us as part of our xmas gift. we're walking down broadway and from memory there are these black guys with almost ceremonial type red etc. robes. they had black bandanas and what I remember a star of david on them. these fucks were on a loud system saying the white man is the devil etc. lol. "white men can't please their women"...blah blah fuckin blah. "white people need to stop lying about how jesus was white." my girl knows i don't usually don't keep my mouth closed but she promised me not to say nething. i walked by just laughing in the guys face as he's yelling some bullshit. I wanted to take a flyer to find out about it but my girl wouldn't let me lol. they were talkin about some odd named god or some shit and how the world is gonna end and it's our fault. i really didn't listen bc it was so pathetic. i would love to drive down there with a bullhorn and start yelling at them lol. anyone else here of these guys or seen them lol? it's funny there were NYPD stationed near them in case people did something i guess.

[SS4ME]

If the white man is the devil then black men are white men's lowly pawns! IDIOTIC RACIST BS is all those morons are preaching!

[impulseballer]

dude that's why i was laughing in his face. i couldn't even get angry. it was one of the funniest things ive seen in a long time.

[SS4ME]

Originally Posted by impulseballer

dude that's why i was laughing in his face. i couldn't even get angry. it was one of the funniest things ive seen in a long time.

You showed some nice restraint. I don't think I could have.

[impulseballer]

Originally Posted by SS4ME

You showed some nice restraint. I don't think I could have.

well if it was me and my boys it would have been quite different lol. if i opened my mouth i would have lost poon privaleges

[hailcesar75]

I think they were reffering to Allah as their god.

[SS4ME]

Originally Posted by impulseballer

well if it was me and my boys it would have been quite different lol. if i opened my mouth i would have lost poon privaleges

That would be no good. Could you have at least crumpled up their propaganda and tossed it into one of their faces?

[chevy cobalt 08]

that's the city for ya

[thekingsSS]

Originally Posted by hailcesar75

I think they were reffering to Allah as their god.

Actually if they were wearing stars of david it was probably jehovah..

And there are actually many philosophers that believe the white man is the devil, or the anti christ. The white man is the man in power, the white man tells lies to cover up his true dastardly deeds, the white man has been the cause to many problems in modern and past societies. Im not claiming that I believe this, but it seems a bit conceited to laugh at someones beliefs simply because you dont believe it. Whos to say that the white man is not the devil? Do you know their definition of devil? The devil could be one who is supposed to lead man to do evil. The white man has oppressed other races, and it was socially acceptable. Slavery, yea the white man was a part of that. Granted there have been many other races that held slaves, but the fact that white men have had slaves and accepted slavery as okay at one point in time sure does support the fact that the white man is the devil.

Before you scoff at someones beliefs, understand their beliefs and where they comes from, because there may be more truth to them than you expected.

[Illini_06SS]

Originally Posted by thekingsSS

The white man has oppressed other races, and it was socially acceptable. Slavery, yea the white man was a part of that. Granted there have been many other races that held slaves, but the fact that white men have had slaves and accepted slavery as okay at one point in time sure does support the fact that the white man is the devil.

The reason whites had blacks as slaves was because blacks had blacks as slaves in Africa and they used them as goods for trading with the Europeans. Not to mention that the Arab slave trade was far further-reaching and longer-lived than the European slave trade ever was. TBH, I feel for those that had ancestors who were slaves, but you can't put the blame solely on the shoulders of whites...

[06blackg85ss]

lolz, I gotta travel to that side of the city... come out here to harlem and see what you hear lol.

[roadrage06]

Originally Posted by thekingsSS

Actually if they were wearing stars of david it was probably jehovah..

And there are actually many philosophers that believe the white man is the devil, or the anti christ. The white man is the man in power, the white man tells lies to cover up his true dastardly deeds, the white man has been the cause to many problems in modern and past societies. Im not claiming that I believe this, but it seems a bit conceited to laugh at someones beliefs simply because you dont believe it. Whos to say that the white man is not the devil? Do you know their definition of devil? The devil could be one who is supposed to lead man to do evil. The white man has oppressed other races, and it was socially acceptable. Slavery, yea the white man was a part of that. Granted there have been many other races that held slaves, but the fact that white men have had slaves and accepted slavery as okay at one point in time sure does support the fact that the white man is the devil.

Before you scoff at someones beliefs, understand their beliefs and where they comes from, because there may be more truth to them than you expected.

Um, how about the fact that EVERYONE lies, EVERYONE has led others to do evil in one way or another, and there isn't a single race on this planet that isn't a participant in sin........generalizing it to one race is.......oh.......what's the word..........RACIST! I'm no more a devil than they are, which makes them a hypcrite in addition to a racist.

[WhiteFiver]

Originally Posted by thekingsSS

Actually if they were wearing stars of david it was probably jehovah..

And there are actually many philosophers that believe the white man is the devil, or the anti christ. The white man is the man in power, the white man tells lies to cover up his true dastardly deeds, the white man has been the cause to many problems in modern and past societies. Im not claiming that I believe this, but it seems a bit conceited to laugh at someones beliefs simply because you dont believe it. Whos to say that the white man is not the devil? Do you know their definition of devil? The devil could be one who is supposed to lead man to do evil. The white man has oppressed other races, and it was socially acceptable. Slavery, yea the white man was a part of that. Granted there have been many other races that held slaves, but the fact that white men have had slaves and accepted slavery as okay at one point in time sure does support the fact that the white man is the devil.

Before you scoff at someones beliefs, understand their beliefs and where they comes from, because there may be more truth to them than you expected.

those people get scoffed at because of the way they try to get he message across....noone needs to be screamed at on the street going to work by some dumbass ina robe screaming that white man is the devil....there are better ways to go about it. and until that stops then the ridiculing will not stop..deal with it.

[Illini_06SS]

Originally Posted by roadrage06

Um, how about the fact that EVERYONE lies, EVERYONE has led others to do evil in one way or another, and there isn't a single race on this planet that isn't a participant in sin........generalizing it to one race is.......oh.......what's the word..........RACIST! I'm no more a devil than they are, which makes them a hypcrite in addition to a racist.

This.

[crypticscifer]

You are NOT alone my friend, I was Mid-Town one day (42nd) and they were sitting on the corner SHOUTING the same thing. But in my case I wanted to say some things back but I couldn't be heard but i found this - CLICK ME

[no_mo_tires]

Originally Posted by WhiteFiver

those people get scoffed at because of the way they try to get he message across....noone needs to be screamed at on the street going to work by some dumbass ina robe screaming that white man is the devil....there are better ways to go about it. and until that stops then the ridiculing will not stop..deal with it.

not only that but if they were forreal , and seriously were anyone to worry about anyways they wouldnt be outside on the street YELLING at people to try to get them to beleive , if enough people beleived that bullshit they wouldnt be out there trying to do tha damn thing. most likely these people are either

1. a cult

2. want to make money off of you using propaganda to reel you in

3. or are just idiots who had their grandaddy's tell em stories for years that made em wanna grow up and be a whitie hater. personally I <3 haters , "motivated by the haters"

these people's opinion/ beleifs mean about as much as me shredding up a black piece of paper , it has no siginificance its just there.

[thekingsSS]

Originally Posted by Illini_06SS

The reason whites had blacks as slaves was because blacks had blacks as slaves in Africa and they used them as goods for trading with the Europeans. Not to mention that the Arab slave trade was far further-reaching and longer-lived than the European slave trade ever was. TBH, I feel for those that had ancestors who were slaves, but you can't put the blame solely on the shoulders of whites...

All this is true, I mentioned that whites werent the only ones with slaves, I was just using that as a simple example.. trying to show the OP that there are things that people use as support for their beliefs.

Originally Posted by roadrage06

Um, how about the fact that EVERYONE lies, EVERYONE has led others to do evil in one way or another, and there isn't a single race on this planet that isn't a participant in sin........generalizing it to one race is.......oh.......what's the word..........RACIST! I'm no more a devil than they are, which makes them a hypcrite in addition to a racist.

Youre right, thus why I said I dont agree with them. I was simply playing devils advocate, there are arguments for and against any viewpoint or belief, doesnt mean any viewpoint is more or less right than any other

[roadrage06]

Originally Posted by thekingsSS

All this is true, I mentioned that whites werent the only ones with slaves, I was just using that as a simple example.. trying to show the OP that there are things that people use as support for their beliefs.

yeah, but you were trying to show us by saying what they use as their basis as if it were fact. Lying and stuff is not unique only to whites. So there is nothing that we didn't understand about their beliefs. It was all indesputable racist propaganda.

[thekingsSS]

Originally Posted by roadrage06

yeah, but you were trying to show us by saying what they use as their basis as if it were fact. Lying and stuff is not unique only to whites. So there is nothing that we didn't understand about their beliefs. It was all indesputable racist propaganda.

Maybe so.. But isnt perpetuating the falsity that Jesus was a white man also racist propaganda? Im not saying they are right in their belief, Im simply saying that until we know the facts behind their beliefs, we cannot pass judgment on their beliefs. I was only using examples, I dont know why they believe what they believe, I dont even claim that my examples are strong, I was simply giving examples. All in all it is wrong to laugh at someones claim until you know the support for their claim, IMO.

[no_mo_tires]

Originally Posted by crypticscifer

You are NOT alone my friend, I was Mid-Town one day (42nd) and they were sitting on the corner SHOUTING the same thing. But in my case I wanted to say some things back but I couldn't be heard but i found this - CLICK ME

I am joining that site! TIME TO TROLL EVERYBODY LETS GO THUNDERCATS HO!





j/k lol . nah but for real it would be nice to drop a big ol kkk spam bomb on them.....

I mean seriously , I respect people's beleifs. but fuck that shit , they don't know what they are talking about all of try to sound so smart but yet , they hate all whites and wish everyone of them dead? no joke a poll they made said this and more than half said I wish them ALL dead. you know we actually fought for a long time to change the white supremacy system and we've came along way . you cant keep blaming future generations for anything their family did 1000 years ago , I might as well just go lynch me some niggers right fuckin now if thats the case.

[roadrage06]

Originally Posted by thekingsSS

Maybe so.. But isnt perpetuating the falsity that Jesus was a white man also racist propaganda? Im not saying they are right in their belief, Im simply saying that until we know the facts behind their beliefs, we cannot pass judgment on their beliefs. I was only using examples, I dont know why they believe what they believe, I dont even claim that my examples are strong, I was simply giving examples. All in all it is wrong to laugh at someones claim until you know the support for their claim, IMO.

individual people painted jesus as white. it's become ignorant common knowlege that he is white. I put a couple seconds of thought into it a couple years ago and realized he probably looked more like Osama Bin Laden than Johnny Depp. I have no problems accepting that. Because a true believer knows him and it's irrelevant what his skin color was.

thinking that it's a conspiracy by white people, like we have a secret committee or some shit is crazy and most people that have conspiracy theories are admissable. Perhaps these people should be too.

[thekingsSS]

Originally Posted by roadrage06

individual people painted jesus as white. it's become ignorant common knowlege that he is white. I put a couple seconds of thought into it a couple years ago and realized he probably looked more like Osama Bin Laden than Johnny Depp. I have no problems accepting that. Because a true believer knows him and it's irrelevant what his skin color was.

thinking that it's a conspiracy by white people, like we have a secret committee or some shit is crazy and most people that have conspiracy theories are admissable. Perhaps these people should be too.

Maybe they should be, but to dismiss without principle is simply prejudice. It is dismissal on the grounds that you dont agree with what they are saying, you think they are crazy. Well thats great for you but they think you are crazy so they are going to dismiss your opinion. No opinion holds value over another opinion, unless the opinion is rooted in accepted scientific fact, but then it is no longer an opinion it is fact. So your opinion that these guys are crazy is no more or less valid than their opinion that the white man is the devil. Again why I say, dont scoff, attempt to understand. Maybe if you try to understand why these people think the white man is the devil, you will have an easier time explaining why the white man is not the devil. Or you will come to believe it, who knows.

And sorry, the you I am referring to is not you Roadrage, just the common use of the word you.

I mean, some people believe that the devil is a being that leads man to the temptation of sin.. It seems that these guys may believe that the white man is leading people to sin, and thats why they believe the white man is the devil.

[WhiteFiver]

Originally Posted by thekingsSS

Maybe they should be, but to dismiss without principle is simply prejudice. It is dismissal on the grounds that you dont agree with what they are saying, you think they are crazy. Well thats great for you but they think you are crazy so they are going to dismiss your opinion. No opinion holds value over another opinion, unless the opinion is rooted in accepted scientific fact, but then it is no longer an opinion it is fact. So your opinion that these guys are crazy is no more or less valid than their opinion that the white man is the devil. Again why I say, dont scoff, attempt to understand. Maybe if you try to understand why these people think the white man is the devil, you will have an easier time explaining why the white man is not the devil. Or you will come to believe it, who knows.

And sorry, the you I am referring to is not you Roadrage, just the common use of the word you.

I mean, some people believe that the devil is a being that leads man to the temptation of sin.. It seems that these guys may believe that the white man is leading people to sin, and thats why they believe the white man is the devil.

go stand on a street corner in a white robe and start screaming your beliefs at people...and then tell me that u dont understand why they thinkg you crazy....seems like common sense to me..

[roadrage06]

Originally Posted by thekingsSS

Maybe they should be, but to dismiss without principle is simply prejudice. It is dismissal on the grounds that you dont agree with what they are saying, you think they are crazy. Well thats great for you but they think you are crazy so they are going to dismiss your opinion. No opinion holds value over another opinion, unless the opinion is rooted in accepted scientific fact, but then it is no longer an opinion it is fact. So your opinion that these guys are crazy is no more or less valid than their opinion that the white man is the devil. Again why I say, dont scoff, attempt to understand. Maybe if you try to understand why these people think the white man is the devil, you will have an easier time explaining why the white man is not the devil. Or you will come to believe it, who knows.

And sorry, the you I am referring to is not you Roadrage, just the common use of the word you.

True, I get what you're saying. But let's face it: it's below the IQ of the scientific community to even bother accumulating data on this topic. It is, indeed, already fact, not opinion, that there is no one race that is solely evil; it's undeniable fact.

[thekingsSS]

Originally Posted by WhiteFiver

go stand on a street corner in a white robe and start screaming your beliefs at people...and then tell me that u dont understand why they thinkg you crazy....seems like common sense to me..

ugh.. you completely missed any point Ive been trying to make. Claiming a person is crazy because he is screaming on the street corner is fine, you can have your opinion. But to claim that that persons beliefs are crazy because of the venue they choose to exhibit them is wrong, you need to understand the beliefs before you can make an educated statement about them.

Originally Posted by roadrage06

True, I get what you're saying. But let's face it: it's below the IQ of the scientific community to even bother accumulating data on this topic. It is, indeed, already fact, not opinion, that there is no one race that is solely evil; it's undeniable fact.

I agree with you there. Again, thats why I dont believe that this group is right, but I would never claim their beliefs to be crazy until I knew what they were. They could have a logical belief system that is simply rooted in racism, thus leading them to the conclusion that the white man is the devil.