The MythBusters Thread
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The MythBusters Thread
I wanted to start a place where we could clear up any Myths about nitrous... If you have heard something post it up and We can "Bust" it.
Ill start with one.
Nitrous oxide can Explode! Nitrous oxide is an oxidizer not a fuel. It will not burn by itself. Now it does accelerate the combustion process. Which is why we use it in our cars.
Ill start with one.
Nitrous oxide can Explode! Nitrous oxide is an oxidizer not a fuel. It will not burn by itself. Now it does accelerate the combustion process. Which is why we use it in our cars.
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here is another:
myth: you can fill a bottle with an extra 1-2lbs of nitrous.
truth: no way it ruins the pressure curve! 10lbs of nitrous in a 10lb bottle means that the bottle is 2/3rd's full of liquid nitrous and the other 1/3 is gas. that 1/3 of gas is your pressure head. if you overfill you decrease the size of that pressure head and the nitrous can not turn into a gas fast enough. this is how you end up with a terrible pressure curve
myth: you can fill a bottle with an extra 1-2lbs of nitrous.
truth: no way it ruins the pressure curve! 10lbs of nitrous in a 10lb bottle means that the bottle is 2/3rd's full of liquid nitrous and the other 1/3 is gas. that 1/3 of gas is your pressure head. if you overfill you decrease the size of that pressure head and the nitrous can not turn into a gas fast enough. this is how you end up with a terrible pressure curve
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c'mon guys. lay off the fast and furious stuff for a little. lets get a little seriousness in here
i ran a 60 shot on gms2 for a long time, then moved to a 75shot on custom tune and then 100 shot on race gas and custom tune. car held up great. the 100 shot hit really hard though. if i was to do it again i would do it progressive
i ran a 60 shot on gms2 for a long time, then moved to a 75shot on custom tune and then 100 shot on race gas and custom tune. car held up great. the 100 shot hit really hard though. if i was to do it again i would do it progressive
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The Jokes were going to come for sure. I would like to keep it open to any serious things you guys have had posted here you disagree with or are simply unsure of.
And you guys are right its not nitrous, its NX
And you guys are right its not nitrous, its NX
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I kind of have multiple questions so bare with me..
Is it safe to run an IC sprayer bar in conjunction with a small 35 shot off of the same bottle? If so, how long could I expect from one 10lb bottle to last?
As previously mention in my last question, I am looking to run only a small 35 shot. I would really prefer to run a dry shot due to the pain of tapping off of the fuel lines in the DI LNF fueling system. Is a wet shot really my best bet or is a dry shot safe (with propper tuning of course)? Oh, and I'm only looking to spray from 4500 - 6500rpm so is a window switch best, or should I spray manually?
And last but not least here.. Will a 35 shot yield more power than say a 5gph meth setup, and is meth the safer power adder here?
Sorry for all the questions, but this is something that I've been tossing around for a while now. I'm just sort of new to spray setups. N/A small and big block V8's are more of my forte..
edit: I found a testport on the fuel rail.. my mistake.. so a wet shot wouldn't be as difficult as I originally thought, however I still feel more confident in running a dry shot for the DI system. Definitely feel free to correct me on anything if I'm wrong
Is it safe to run an IC sprayer bar in conjunction with a small 35 shot off of the same bottle? If so, how long could I expect from one 10lb bottle to last?
As previously mention in my last question, I am looking to run only a small 35 shot. I would really prefer to run a dry shot due to the pain of tapping off of the fuel lines in the DI LNF fueling system. Is a wet shot really my best bet or is a dry shot safe (with propper tuning of course)? Oh, and I'm only looking to spray from 4500 - 6500rpm so is a window switch best, or should I spray manually?
And last but not least here.. Will a 35 shot yield more power than say a 5gph meth setup, and is meth the safer power adder here?
Sorry for all the questions, but this is something that I've been tossing around for a while now. I'm just sort of new to spray setups. N/A small and big block V8's are more of my forte..
edit: I found a testport on the fuel rail.. my mistake.. so a wet shot wouldn't be as difficult as I originally thought, however I still feel more confident in running a dry shot for the DI system. Definitely feel free to correct me on anything if I'm wrong
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i would jus tlike to insert this little tidbit here. there is nothing wrong with spraying manually as long as you don't hold the button down as you shift. window switches are meant to be used in order to maintain consistency. and it also helps with tuning knowing at what rpms to change the timing.
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i would jus tlike to insert this little tidbit here. there is nothing wrong with spraying manually as long as you don't hold the button down as you shift. window switches are meant to be used in order to maintain consistency. and it also helps with tuning knowing at what rpms to change the timing.
Pretty much. Along the same lines tho, Its very rare to see a piston that was simply over powered. What happens is the "tuning window" gets smaller with every increase in jet size, and eventually you were not spot on enough and the piston was either detonated on or rich/lean. When you take a non forged piston and start adding a large shot to it, the accuracy to which it needs to be tuned to survive can be very high.
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I kind of have multiple questions so bare with me..
Is it safe to run an IC sprayer bar in conjunction with a small 35 shot off of the same bottle? If so, how long could I expect from one 10lb bottle to last?
As previously mention in my last question, I am looking to run only a small 35 shot. I would really prefer to run a dry shot due to the pain of tapping off of the fuel lines in the DI LNF fueling system. Is a wet shot really my best bet or is a dry shot safe (with propper tuning of course)? Oh, and I'm only looking to spray from 4500 - 6500rpm so is a window switch best, or should I spray manually?
And last but not least here.. Will a 35 shot yield more power than say a 5gph meth setup, and is meth the safer power adder here?
Sorry for all the questions, but this is something that I've been tossing around for a while now. I'm just sort of new to spray setups. N/A small and big block V8's are more of my forte..
edit: I found a testport on the fuel rail.. my mistake.. so a wet shot wouldn't be as difficult as I originally thought, however I still feel more confident in running a dry shot for the DI system. Definitely feel free to correct me on anything if I'm wrong
Is it safe to run an IC sprayer bar in conjunction with a small 35 shot off of the same bottle? If so, how long could I expect from one 10lb bottle to last?
As previously mention in my last question, I am looking to run only a small 35 shot. I would really prefer to run a dry shot due to the pain of tapping off of the fuel lines in the DI LNF fueling system. Is a wet shot really my best bet or is a dry shot safe (with propper tuning of course)? Oh, and I'm only looking to spray from 4500 - 6500rpm so is a window switch best, or should I spray manually?
And last but not least here.. Will a 35 shot yield more power than say a 5gph meth setup, and is meth the safer power adder here?
Sorry for all the questions, but this is something that I've been tossing around for a while now. I'm just sort of new to spray setups. N/A small and big block V8's are more of my forte..
edit: I found a testport on the fuel rail.. my mistake.. so a wet shot wouldn't be as difficult as I originally thought, however I still feel more confident in running a dry shot for the DI system. Definitely feel free to correct me on anything if I'm wrong
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That is why I edited my comment on the end there. It's not so much that it would be difficult to tap off of the fuel rail, it's more in the whole fuel delivery design of a DI setup that I would be concerned about, more specifically the piston design relative to the injectors, plugs, and combustion chamber. You know what I'm trying to say here?
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yes this is of course very true, however it is also in a very specific and concentrated area on the piston. Unlike a port injected engine where the areal is much less concentrated and the fuel can safely spread about the cylinder and combustion chamber safely. This is where I'm not sure if things get sketchy or not. Is the area of combustion so tight and specific that detonation and misfiring is possible due to unburnt fuel? Again, I could be wrong but it seems to make sense that this could be an issue
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yes this is of course very true, however it is also in a very specific and concentrated area on the piston. Unlike a port injected engine where the areal is much less concentrated and the fuel can safely spread about the cylinder and combustion chamber safely. This is where I'm not sure if things get sketchy or not. Is the area of combustion so tight and specific that detonation and misfiring is possible due to unburnt fuel? Again, I could be wrong but it seems to make sense that this could be an issue