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Old 04-03-2011, 03:28 AM
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Sneaky kills!

I hate turbo cars. Plain and simple. I love the supercharger but the power is limited. TVS tooo expensive, so i debating getting a Nitrous kit. I don't want it to shoot evertime i hit a certain Rev limit. I want to be able to tell it when to shoot in 3 gear and higher. Due to traction issues.

Question 1. Will my stock LSJ motor be able to handle, 2.9pulley and maybe a 75shot.

Question 2. 95k on my car, Anyone ever have problems with nitrous on high mileage rides?

Question 3. Meth + Nitrous could this work as well or too much Combination

I want to destroy Turbo cars, Srt-4,LNF,WRX,EVO ect.

Plus if anyone asks ill just say im running meth which i don't think gives as much power as if I had nitrous
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If your ok with refilling the bottle over and over again then just bite the bullet and get the tvs. in the long run itll be way cheaper then re-filling the bottle. Plust n20 only lasts a little while. the tvs goes all day so if your messin with people you dont have to say, wait my bottles empty. lol just my opinion
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I have a semi complete nitrous kit if your interested.

comes w/ a ZEX wet/dry brain solenoid which activates based on 100% throttle or a button.
NOS 10 lb bottle
wet/dry nozzle
zex button

$250.00+shipping and its yours
The brain solenoid goes new for $250.00

All you would need are lines, shot of your choice, and a tune.

bottle warmer, while optional (recommended)
pressure gauge
remote bottle opener



A 2.9 is actually a very good pulley for use w/ a 75 shot. Your safest bet is to pull 4* of timing per 50 shot.
Combining nitrous w/ water/methanol is 100% ok. Makes tuning a little fussier, but completely doable. Though IMO the water/meth should only be used for cooling purposes on this kind of setup, considering your on a stock lsj block, with stock sleeves.

as for your goal to power... all depends on what is done to any of those cars. You definitely won't be slow.

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Money is tight right now but deffently in the future ill start picking stuff up. Most turbo cars are between 300-400. I don't want E-85 due to it being a pain in the ass to find. TVS is prolly 1800+ for everything.

The nitrous would only be used on when i wanted to race someone from a 60+ ROLL or 40+roll. So it wouldn't be used all day. I conserve. The meth however will always be running when im flying down the highway. I just dont want the nitrous to spray whenever it feels like. i want to spray it 3k+ on my own
Is sprayin manualy safe? as long as i keep it between certains revs?
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Ok if you think the TVS is too expensive you prob shouldnt be modding, they can be had for 1200, look around
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tvs is 1200 my m62 is free. thats 1200 Extra for maybe 50-75 extra power. Where meth and nitrous will do it for 600$

plus my engine will look stock and people will be baffled on my power
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lol
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Originally Posted by Joemaster70
tvs is 1200 my m62 is free. thats 1200 Extra for maybe 50-75 extra power. Where meth and nitrous will do it for 600$

plus my engine will look stock and people will be baffled on my power
if those ppl know anything about cars, it wont take long for them to catch on to your spray...
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Doesnt matter as long as win lol.

My excuse u run turbo i run naazz
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i love turbo cars
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Originally Posted by Joemaster70

I want to destroy Turbo cars, Srt-4,LNF,WRX,EVO ect.
Well your going to need a lot more than a M62/75 shot if you run into many..
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Nitrous is very hard on internals, and you have to continue refilling it, cost wise you might think your saving money but when you pop the motor or use enough nitrous your going to wind up behind
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Yeah, when I had my SS it was $6X a fill.
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you sir are not going to succeed at this......

i bet you get a n2o kit and blow the b%$ch up, just man up and get the tvs and some meth and quit your complaining about racing... if you lose you lose, jeez
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its not about the win or loose tho. Gotta get the respect. Cobalts are cobalts and i wanna prove these people wrong. Plus theres gotta be people on here that ran Nitrous on there stock motor and was fine. I mean GM has a STAGE 3 Kit with nitrous built for it
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For the power he wants he needs to go big turbo, but if he thinks the TVS is too much..

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Doesnt matter as long as win lol.

My excuse u run turbo i run naazz
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its not about the win or loose tho. Gotta get the respect. Cobalts are cobalts and i wanna prove these people wrong. Plus theres gotta be people on here that ran Nitrous on there stock motor and was fine. I mean GM has a STAGE 3 Kit with nitrous built for it
The title and previous post say different. If you lose what are you proving them wrong about?
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thats the thing i don't want BIG turbo. I wanna have decent power from 1st-2nd and then start of third. Spinning my tires through the first 3 gears is pointless. Id be wasting tread and loosing time. Thats why Nitrous would be good for the long run cause when i feel i need it and i have traction i can kick it in.

TVS Or Turbo will always be there in 3-4k+ and getting traction blows. Even lower rpms for the tvs cause its always on
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Originally Posted by Joemaster70
tvs is 1200 my m62 is free. thats 1200 Extra for maybe 50-75 extra power. Where meth and nitrous will do it for 600$

plus my engine will look stock and people will be baffled on my power
+ $100 every time to fill the bottle. The $600 for your kit plus fill that bottle up 6 times you got the price of your tvs there.

That being said i have a fogger and lines for sale for $100.


Also you are talking about respect. You might get some respect with nitrous, you will get more respect with a tvs build and you would get even more with a turbo. But when you spray the nitrous and blow your engine, your just going to get laughed at.
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Is boost reduction by gear not available for the Cobalts? I understand that you don't want to go turbo but that's what you need if you want to smoke a decent amount of the cars modded you mentioned. I mean with a 75 shot it would be ok if thats all your actually looking for, though that goes against the first half of the thread.
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but thats if i find a dude selling his tvs for 1200 which most of em i've seen where atleast 1500-1800. and brand new 2.2k. idk . U guys think ill be Racing like crazy lol. I'd prolly use Nitrous 4x a month max.
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Originally Posted by Perfect.disguise
Is boost reduction by gear not available for the Cobalts? I understand that you don't want to go turbo but that's what you need if you want to smoke a decent amount of the cars modded you mentioned. I mean with a 75 shot it would be ok if thats all your actually looking for, though that goes against the first half of the thread.
you can reduce the boost. I had my boost reduced 75% in first gear.
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if i can keep up/pass a stg2 srt-4,Evo/STI with tune,intake,exhaust,. Tuned LNF. I'll be happy

I know you guys may think im dumb but it's w.e I'm tryin to be different, Plus not alot of people run nitrous, which would make me 1 of the few

U tell people im running a tvs and they look at u with confusion

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Originally Posted by Joemaster70
its not about the win or loose tho. Gotta get the respect. Cobalts are cobalts and i wanna prove these people wrong. Plus theres gotta be people on here that ran Nitrous on there stock motor and was fine. I mean GM has a STAGE 3 Kit with nitrous built for it
zzp just pushed the lsj to 898hp on their mustang dyno. That's respect. Not listening to the advice that people are giving you to save YOU money...that's just newbish.

I digress though. As per your original question, you'll be okay on what you have with Nitrous. Don't overdo it like everyone is telling you. You will need a tune for it. I'm sure you can find someone.
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Originally Posted by Joemaster70
if i can keep up/pass a stg2 srt-4,Evo/STI with tune,intake,exhaust,. Tuned LNF. I'll be happy
Sure, those wouldn't be too hard and the LNF will be the closest. Though If you want to beat decent turbo swapped ones you will need more than a TVS still. SRT's with bolt-ons, meth and a tune don't make much more than 300whp. Evo would really depend on year.

Though I'm just tuned over the S2 PCM...

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zzp just pushed the lsj to 898hp on their mustang dyno. That's respect. Not listening to the advice that people are giving you to save YOU money...that's just newbish.
Not taking anything away from them, I will never have anything that powerful. Though as shop cars go that's not out of the norm, I know of a EVO/SRT/etc shop car pulling higher.
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I think my girl would be more upset with me dropping 1200$ for 1 thing then just 300 here and there. But i'll see what she says.


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