2100 times the size of our sun...

rallyracer · 06-27-2009, 04:49 PM

Did you know a star exists that is more than 2,100 times the size of the Sun?

...I didnt.

I learned something today

Our Small World (video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8BncJ7XMLk

Sharkey · 06-27-2009, 04:51 PM

i think that solar system is compensating for something.....

camaromanss1992 · 06-27-2009, 04:52 PM

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i think that solar system is compensating for something.....

X2

GraveyG5 · 06-27-2009, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Sharkey

i think that solar system is compensating for something.....

LMAO!

Now that's funny!

Rydis · 06-27-2009, 05:12 PM

its interesting, I just started my astronomy class wed. Gets you thinking about other life. Not like aliens, but another planet quite like ours, im sure would have similar type people. But wonder what they decided to call their planet..and why and how their societies would differ from ours, especially with a sun that large lol

cakeeater · 06-27-2009, 05:16 PM

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its interesting, I just started my astronomy class wed. Gets you thinking about other life. Not like aliens, but another planet quite like ours, im sure would have similar type people. But wonder what they decided to call their planet..and why and how their societies would differ from ours, especially with a sun that large lol

Assuming the necessary events and circumstances for life, similar to human life, to exist on another planet are evident, it's very likely their societies would develop similarly to ours. Hell tons of shit could be the same. We could even have similar languages...

rocketrex · 06-27-2009, 05:17 PM

and be driving cobalts

Rydis · 06-27-2009, 05:18 PM

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Assuming the necessary events and circumstances for life, similar to human life, to exist on another planet are evident, it's very likely their societies would develop similarly to ours. Hell tons of shit could be the same. We could even have similar languages...

yeah, thats something I would find interesting to compare. I find that more interesting then green men in spaceships

rallyracer · 06-27-2009, 11:41 PM

bump

OrngBalt · 06-27-2009, 11:51 PM

there is alot that has to happen for another planet like ours. Like a star like that one would be significantly stronger and have stronger gravitational pull, so the years and the seasons would be EXTREMELY long, which means you would have very long periods of time which unpleasant weather conditions. Also, you have to have a perfect speed planet rotation because too slow would leave one side exposed to the sun too long and the other too cold too long so you would have one side freezing and the other boiling. If rotation was too fast, there would be many storms and bad tides making unpleasant living conditions. Then, you need a large moon. The large size of our moon helps stabilize the rotation of our planet. Without it, the earth's axis would vary up to 52 degrees which would cause real issues for seasons and living conditions, this is part of what they believe happened to mars. Then, very importantly you need VERY large planets like Jupiter and Saturn. Their large size and gravitational pull help divert comets and meteors in the solar system. Without planets like those, earth would have been pummeled hundreds if not thousands of more times with meteors like the one that took out the dinosaurs.

I am a firm believer in life, but after some of my readings, I'm starting to realize the odds are smaller and smaller.

rallyracer · 06-28-2009, 12:11 AM

With everything being so large...I bet the people on a larger plant would just be bigger too...there for making everything not seam as large. From the view of a small insect our sun it way bigger than it is to us.

Giants.

Ishbar · 06-28-2009, 12:12 AM

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there is alot that has to happen for another planet like ours. Like a star like that one would be significantly stronger and have stronger gravitational pull, so the years and the seasons would be EXTREMELY long, which means you would have very long periods of time which unpleasant weather conditions. Also, you have to have a perfect speed planet rotation because too slow would leave one side exposed to the sun too long and the other too cold too long so you would have one side freezing and the other boiling. If rotation was too fast, there would be many storms and bad tides making unpleasant living conditions. Then, you need a large moon. The large size of our moon helps stabilize the rotation of our planet. Without it, the earth's axis would vary up to 52 degrees which would cause real issues for seasons and living conditions, this is part of what they believe happened to mars. Then, very importantly you need VERY large planets like Jupiter and Saturn. Their large size and gravitational pull help divert comets and meteors in the solar system. Without planets like those, earth would have been pummeled hundreds if not thousands of more times with meteors like the one that took out the dinosaurs.

I am a firm believer in life, but after some of my readings, I'm starting to realize the odds are smaller and smaller.

While true that the odds are infentesimally small, the Universe is also infentesimally big - so big that to reject the idea of "commonality" in contrast the vastness is ignorant.

VY CM is huge, but also will live a VERY short lifespan. The upside to stars that large is that they have a much larger area for supporting life due to their less extreme surface temperatures. Earth's Sun is relatively Cool, hence the extremely small opening for life in our Solar system: too far, you're cold like Mars, too close, you're hot like Venus. So even though VY CM could easily support a life filled planet (microrganisms etc, plant life, etc.) it would have self destructed before even reaching half Earths age.

By that time scale, we were still a primordial soup of rock, magma, and heavy gases in the atmosphere.

ColeJJones · 06-28-2009, 12:18 AM

yea, all the stars in the sky are suns. pretty much all of them are bigger than our sun.... 8th grade shit right there

Ishbar · 06-28-2009, 12:29 AM

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yea, all the stars in the sky are suns. pretty much all of them are bigger than our sun.... 8th grade shit right there

Until you start getting into Wavelengths, and Spectrographs which can determine elemental compositions of planets and stars based on the colors they emit. Or how light is distorted and compensating for curvatures in space to determine how far a given object is, taking into account the expansion of the universe, and the lifespan of said object.

All stuff I couldn't fathom how to do...

ilovecars · 06-28-2009, 12:31 AM

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i think that solar system is compensating for something.....

rallyracer · 06-28-2009, 12:51 AM

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yea, all the stars in the sky are suns. pretty much all of them are bigger than our sun.... 8th grade shit right there

That's the best thing you could say

...yeah most are larger but I doubt in 8th grade you were told that a sun 2100 times our sun existed. I find that to be amazing and more than just 8th grade shit.

Rydis · 06-28-2009, 01:03 AM

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That's the best thing you could say

...yeah most are larger but I doubt in 8th grade you were told that a sun 2100 times our sun existed. I find that to be amazing and more than just 8th grade shit.

yeah, it could be 8th grade. We started learning algebra by the 5th grade here.

ColeJJones · 06-28-2009, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by rallyracer

That's the best thing you could say

...yeah most are larger but I doubt in 8th grade you were told that a sun 2100 times our sun existed. I find that to be amazing and more than just 8th grade shit.

damn dude, stop being butt hurt cause someone doesnt share the interest as much as you do.

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yeah, it could be 8th grade. We started learning algebra by the 5th grade here.

you are top notch